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    Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    I have not found anything about this in print yet, but I heard on WCBS 880 that the Port Authority was going to get rid of its two helicopters. The report said it would save them 4 million dollars a year in operating costs, and they would sell the copters for 8 million.

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Good luck getting the 8mil for the two copters. I'm sure those are high time birds, for their manufacture date, and unless they already have an 8mil offer on the table, these economic times will not support that figure.

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Just my o2, but I think this is the wrong thing to do.
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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    NYCAviation:
    Port Authority Grounds its Police Helicopters
    The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates all three of the New York City-area's major airports, among other major transportation properties, has grounded its fleet of two helicopters, citing cost concerns and a lack of usefulness.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Odd coincidence, a couple weeks ago I saw one fly by my house enroute to LGA and thought to myself, "Do they really need those things? What do they use them for?"
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    Odd coincidence, a couple weeks ago I saw one fly by my house enroute to LGA and thought to myself, "Do they really need those things? What do they use them for?"
    I was just going to ask the same question...

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    The only thing I've seen them do is:

    - An occasional lap around LGA

    - Roll around during LGA Kids Day

    - Hover over me for 20 minutes while I'm spotting

    Not worth millions of dollars.
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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by lijk604
    I'm sure those are high time birds, for their manufacture date, and unless they already have an 8mil offer on the table, these economic times will not support that figure.
    One was delivered in 1984. Not sure about the other one. They appear to have some fancy "Homeland Security" gear on them, whatever that's worth.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    Quote Originally Posted by lijk604
    I'm sure those are high time birds, for their manufacture date, and unless they already have an 8mil offer on the table, these economic times will not support that figure.
    One was delivered in 1984. Not sure about the other one. They appear to have some fancy "Homeland Security" gear on them, whatever that's worth.
    A FLIR camera isn't fancy homeland security gear and is actually old technology. I haven't seen them being useful.
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    I'm sure those are high time birds, for their manufacture date, and unless they already have an 8mil offer on the table, these economic times will not support that figure
    That $8 mil figure I quoted in the original post was from the first radio report I heard of this event. At that point it was fresh news and I'm sure all the facts were'nt yet verified.

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by emshighway
    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    Quote Originally Posted by lijk604
    I'm sure those are high time birds, for their manufacture date, and unless they already have an 8mil offer on the table, these economic times will not support that figure.
    One was delivered in 1984. Not sure about the other one. They appear to have some fancy "Homeland Security" gear on them, whatever that's worth.
    A FLIR camera isn't fancy homeland security gear and is actually old technology. I haven't seen them being useful.
    Actually I have seen the FLIRs being useful in LE helicopters and is pretty essential equipment in public safety rotorcraft
    along with SAR copters like the USCG.
    Not sure what the PA copters used them for. I guess this means added duties for NYPD helicopters and NJSPD ships.
    Does Newark PD still fly their copters?

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard
    Does Newark PD still fly their copters?
    Not as much as they did just 2 years ago but yes. Based at MMU

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by njgtr82
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard
    Does Newark PD still fly their copters?
    Not as much as they did just 2 years ago but yes. Based at MMU
    Thanks.

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    Re: Port Authority to eliminate Aviation Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard
    Quote Originally Posted by emshighway

    A FLIR camera isn't fancy homeland security gear and is actually old technology. I haven't seen them being useful.
    Actually I have seen the FLIRs being useful in LE helicopters and is pretty essential equipment in public safety rotorcraft
    along with SAR copters like the USCG.
    Not sure what the PA copters used them for. I guess this means added duties for NYPD helicopters and NJSPD ships.
    Does Newark PD still fly their copters?
    Yea, I meant on the PAPD Chopper. Not much need for FLIR when you are jockeying the PANYNJ Director around.
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