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    Old JFK and LAX, can't get enough of the history!

    I would have loved to have been a spotter in these days!!








    And here is a local photo for Midnight Mike!

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    and that has made all the difference......yet...
    I have a feeling a handle of people are going to be very interested in what I post in the near future.

    http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=187

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    Being a spotter at JFK in the late '70's/early 80's and using the Pan Am rooftop as my primary location, I can say without hesitation that it was pretty cool. JFK still had the three houses (I believe the Protestant church had all the hanging airplane models) in the park and it was unbelievably easy to gain access to the mechanics lunchroom on the bottom (where the nose gear/s would be right in your face) and cockpits of most airlines through out Kennedy. It all changed when chicken wire was installed on the rooftop around '84.

    I wish I was there when it was decked out with the fountains as well.
    Spotters have been Homeland Security before HS was a glimmer in the president's eye.

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    I found this page with lots of old pics of JFK.

    http://members.tripod.com/~psa188/index.html

    Here's another cool shot, but I don't know where I got it from:



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    i started spotting jfk when i was a kid in s.ozone pk, the golden age,60s-70s, last of the big props,early jets,747s,vc10s, il-62s,cl44s,widebodies,concorde, it was beautiful, but its still pretty cool right now,777s, 747-400s,a340s,and the occasional itinerant 727. still my favorite aerodrome.
    The beehive hummm of the JT9D and GE CF680C2,the thunder of the JT8D-17,the rumble of the PW1830 and the high ,thin whine of the PW 545A are all music to my ears!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 727C47
    i started spotting jfk when i was a kid in s.ozone pk, the golden age,60s-70s, last of the big props,early jets,747s,vc10s, il-62s,cl44s,widebodies,concorde, it was beautiful, but its still pretty cool right now,777s, 747-400s,a340s,and the occasional itinerant 727. still my favorite aerodrome.

    We have the same beginnings, I was on Rockaway Blvd and 24th street. That was the cradle of spotting at JFK :) And we never had to leave the house.
    And I, I took the path less traveled by
    and that has made all the difference......yet...
    I have a feeling a handle of people are going to be very interested in what I post in the near future.

    http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=187

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    Excellent to see this and the old LGA pics today, reminds me of how much more fun it used to be to go to the airport. I find it kind of amazing how long some of these structures lasted given the changes over the years, e.g. IAB made it to the end of the 20th century, Pan Am Worldport is still in use over 40 years later, etc. And so I don't leave out LAX, the Encounter restaurant now in the old Theme Building is pretty cool, does anyone know who that guy is?

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    i remember when the canarsie approach would be active sunrise to midnight (late 60's),a 707 overhead every 90 seconds, and pan am would do 3am full power maintenance run-ups of their 707s(no kidding), and rockaway playland was a great place to spot,all those alitalia 747s,and other heavies moaning overhead,and outbound eastward, great,great stuff, i was in heaven,my family thought i was nuts.
    The beehive hummm of the JT9D and GE CF680C2,the thunder of the JT8D-17,the rumble of the PW1830 and the high ,thin whine of the PW 545A are all music to my ears!

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    Im still in dreamland watching 13L arrivals here in Howard Beach, how so much has changed flying overhead over the years. I have to thank my Dad for all those Saturday afternoons on the observation deck of the IAB as a kid for igniting my love of airplanes.

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    A little off topic but the photos got me thinking about this. My mother, who has firsthand experience of the era, says that when celebrities would arrive or depart Idlewild they would often pose for pictures at the top of the stairs by the aircraft door. This implies the media and the public could get pretty close to the plane. Does anyone know if there was any sort of pass required, or was it all on the honor system in those days?

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    Man, those are some great pictures! Any more oldies of JFK or LGA?
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    As you can see, these are from the book, which I plan on returning.

    In the first one, wasn't that external facade still around in the 80s? Looks like I remember seeing it.


    As for the PanAm overview model, I love the Pan Am Concorde they anticipated :)


    enjoy!
    And I, I took the path less traveled by
    and that has made all the difference......yet...
    I have a feeling a handle of people are going to be very interested in what I post in the near future.

    http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=187

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    i love the paa space shuttle in 2001 space oddysey
    The beehive hummm of the JT9D and GE CF680C2,the thunder of the JT8D-17,the rumble of the PW1830 and the high ,thin whine of the PW 545A are all music to my ears!

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    I WANT THAT MODEL OF THE WORLDPORT!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonstop2AUH
    A little off topic but the photos got me thinking about this. My mother, who has firsthand experience of the era, says that when celebrities would arrive or depart Idlewild they would often pose for pictures at the top of the stairs by the aircraft door. This implies the media and the public could get pretty close to the plane. Does anyone know if there was any sort of pass required, or was it all on the honor system in those days?
    I believe at IAB in the 50s, (and what I can remember of the late 60s) the public had access to much of the roof extending into the piers. I am thinking it remained open to the general public when the Beatles arrived and all that. The aircraft wre often fairly close to the deck...
    "Keep 'em Flying"

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    I still don't know how to insert the quote like Tom did, but thanks for the info Tom. Now, at LGA wasn't there a similar public area at ground level? Like, in old pics it looks like the "gate" was just that, an opening in the railing that passengers would present their ticket and walk through and up to the plane but there was nothing to stop visitors from coming right up to the "gate".

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