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    JFK/DAB...If JetBlue can fly to ACK, then DAB should be next

    Ok...This is the last straw. JetBlue announced seasonal service to Nantucket this week. Where is the demand for jetBlue to fly to ACK? Doesn't US Airways cover the New York flights with service to LGA? Anyway, I would think that if JetBlue can launch service to ACK with confidence, then they can launch service to Daytona Beach with even more. The NYC market is wide open for JetBlue to swoop in and a zip code analysis done by DAB proves that NYC is the top destination for travelers. Plus, Atlanta is looking less popular by the day and that is mainly where you will connect if you fly from DAB. There is much more for jetBlue in DAB than ACK and all we need is two E190 flights per day to JFK. I feel like jetBlue is trying to torture me by witholding DAB service. (Thats a joke) As of May (United is pulling out in April probably due to competition with AirTran), there will be three airlines at DAB including one LCC (AirTran, Delta, and Continental Express). None of those airlines serve New York city on a regular basis. I think it is time for jetBlue to step up to bat and land in Daytona Beach. AirTran is doing great here with very strong bookings through March and many, many full airplanes. JetBlue should do just as well serving such a popular destination for DAB travelers.
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    C'mon, there just isn't enough demand! If there are only 3 airlines, that shows there isn't enough demand! Florida already has several large airports, why do they need another one?

    Heck, B6 isn't even at DTW, why would they go to DAB? Now, i'm not calling for B6 at DTW, i'm just saying, B6 isn't going to serve every airport, only airport markests they see fit, DAB isn't on their list, they already have flights to MCO, only an hour and 10 minuites away according to MapQuest.
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    I'd say the yields on ACK are going to be the highest in their system, and that's why they're flying there. The same can't be said for DAB. If B6 could fly to the Hamptons, they would and they'd make a ton of $. ACK is the next best thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    I'd say the yields on ACK are going to be the highest in their system, and that's why they're flying there. The same can't be said for DAB. If B6 could fly to the Hamptons, they would and they'd make a ton of $. ACK is the next best thing.
    I'm sure Cape May as well?

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    Well, there aren't that many airlines at ACK either. ACK is a much smaller airport than DAB. Plus, there is successful LCC service at DAB, which would prove to B6 that they would do well.
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    Outside of the month of February, DAB doesn't have very much demand.

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    The Summer, Spring Break, the only real downturn for DAB is April. Other than that, DAB is used a lot. January's (2007) passenger counts were up 25% because of AirTran.
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    Alright, listen, 3 airlines = not that much of demand.

    B6 knows what they are doing, they don't need you to tell them which airports to go into.

    99% of spring breakers into Florida fly into MCO and will always fly into MCO, why fly into DAB when you are staying in Orlando? There isn't enough demand!!

    It is FAR to early to announce that AirTran was successful at DAB, it has only been about a month! You don't know what their revenue is, plus this is around the time where DAB will have the most amount of traffic.

    DAB, with only 3 airlines and one of those being an LCC, won't be able to support a second LCC. Please, PLEASE research a bit more and stop insisting that everyone should come to DAB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwafan20
    Alright, listen, 3 airlines = not that much of demand.

    B6 knows what they are doing, they don't need you to tell them which airports to go into.

    99% of spring breakers into Florida fly into MCO and will always fly into MCO, why fly into DAB when you are staying in Orlando? There isn't enough demand!!

    It is FAR to early to announce that AirTran was successful at DAB, it has only been about a month! You don't know what their revenue is, plus this is around the time where DAB will have the most amount of traffic.

    DAB, with only 3 airlines and one of those being an LCC, won't be able to support a second LCC. Please, PLEASE research a bit more and stop insisting that everyone should come to DAB!
    Don't confuse demand with how many airlines currently serve an individual airport. Daytona has a large catchment area from St. Augustine down to Orlando's northern 'burbs. However, up until this time, you're options out of DAB have been expensive mainline service.

    A few years ago a report was done that said the top 3 final desintations out of DAB were Detroit, NYC, and Boston. With Continental scaling things back, I believe there is definite room for a LCC to offer service to the NYC area.

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    We are not serving ACK directly we will do it through Cape Air who will tie into our system in Boston. We are at the same concourse so it will be pretty seamless
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejuice
    We are not serving ACK directly we will do it through Cape Air who will tie into our system in Boston. We are at the same concourse so it will be pretty seamless
    In addition to the code-share with Cape Air, jet Blue will be flying a daily JFK-ACK flight with E-190s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTENSS
    Quote Originally Posted by nwafan20
    Alright, listen, 3 airlines = not that much of demand.

    B6 knows what they are doing, they don't need you to tell them which airports to go into.

    99% of spring breakers into Florida fly into MCO and will always fly into MCO, why fly into DAB when you are staying in Orlando? There isn't enough demand!!

    It is FAR to early to announce that AirTran was successful at DAB, it has only been about a month! You don't know what their revenue is, plus this is around the time where DAB will have the most amount of traffic.

    DAB, with only 3 airlines and one of those being an LCC, won't be able to support a second LCC. Please, PLEASE research a bit more and stop insisting that everyone should come to DAB!
    Don't confuse demand with how many airlines currently serve an individual airport. Daytona has a large catchment area from St. Augustine down to Orlando's northern 'burbs. However, up until this time, you're options out of DAB have been expensive mainline service.

    A few years ago a report was done that said the top 3 final desintations out of DAB were Detroit, NYC, and Boston. With Continental scaling things back, I believe there is definite room for a LCC to offer service to the NYC area.

    -Rich

    But think about it, if there was demand, a lot more than 3 airlines would be serving it. Air Tran is the 3rd, therefore already offering LCC service, there isn't room for another one.

    If I come across a bit harsh to some of you, it is because the poster (JetBlueAirwaysFan) posted about how different airlines should come to DAB for about 2 months straight over at another board I post at. It got really annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwafan20
    But think about it, if there was demand, a lot more than 3 airlines would be serving it. Air Tran is the 3rd, therefore already offering LCC service, there isn't room for another one.

    If I come across a bit harsh to some of you, it is because the poster (JetBlueAirwaysFan) posted about how different airlines should come to DAB for about 2 months straight over at another board I post at. It got really annoying.
    In the past, the demand was being met by MCO to the south and JAX to the north which both have ample LCC options. Daytona, itself, could draw people to the airport from a relatively large population base due to its convenience and (now) low fares. What this does is draw attention to DAB for people who would otherwise drive further to MCO/JAX.

    This increased interest and resulting flight acticity is commonly referred to the "Southwest Effect." I'm sure we're all aware of how this works....DAB is prime candidate for this type of effect. It doesn't necessarily have to happen as a result of one carrier, we've already seen Delta upgrade and lower fares. There is alot of demand between Central Florida and NYC....let's see what happens.

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    Thank you INTENSS...Very very true. Steve Cooke at the airport has confirmed to me that the bookings on AirTran are very strong, and I have seen reports of full flights on AirTran. nwafan...I am just trying to spark up debate, and DAB has a lot of debatable areas. Now I am being specific with DAB by mentioning NYC/DAB service.
    As INTENSS pointed out, DAB does cover a wide swath. Especially being the closest airport to Flagler County (which by the way has very close ties with the NYC area). If we can get LCC service between DAB and JFK, passenger counts will sky rocket. Mind you that people will NOT want to drive with the price of gas.
    AirTran has brought the first $79 one way fares to LGA through Atlanta that I have ever seen in the history of my fare tracking.
    Thats the other thing, even though there are low fares, DAB needs the NYC service because people are going to get tired of always going to Atlanta. They already are. Last I heard about JetBlue from Mr. Cooke was that they were going to carefully watch AirTran's progress. So far so good. JetBlue is announcing new destinations once again, and I have the feeling DAB will be one of them pretty soon.
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    Hey I guess with all the mess here at JFK,I missed that news. We are operating one daily flight in the summer with expanded operations on Fridays and Sundays.
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