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  1. 2006-12-25, 01:07 PM #1
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    SWF or HPN, Which is Better?

    I am thinking about taking my mother to upstate New York to visit her family. We can either fly to SWF or HPN. In terms of weather delays, diversions, and cancellations, which airport is better to fly to?
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  2. 2006-12-25, 02:05 PM #2
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    I would say SWF. The airport has less traffic then HPN and things will move quicker, the airport also see's less diversions, cancellations, and delays considering the airport itself is a diversion airport.
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    Re: SWF or HPN, Which is Better?

    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlueAirwaysFan
    I am thinking about taking my mother to upstate New York to visit her family. We can either fly to SWF or HPN. In terms of weather delays, diversions, and cancellations, which airport is better to fly to?
    It depends where "family" is. I'm partial to HPN since it is my home base, but it is very convenient and easy to get in/out of and there are many flights on a daily basis.

    Where would she be coming in from?
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    We would be coming from Orlando, FL. HPN is cheaper right now at $79 each way while JetBlue (MCO-SWF) is $99 to and $89 from. I suppose that financially it would be wiser to use AirTran's MCO/HPN service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlueAirwaysFan
    We would be coming from Orlando, FL. HPN is cheaper right now at $79 each way while JetBlue (MCO-SWF) is $99 to and $89 from. I suppose that financially it would be wiser to use AirTran's MCO/HPN service.
    I've taken AirTran 673 from MCO to HPN numerous times and it has been nothing short of convenient for a fairly low cost. It is really easy to get in/out of HPN and the service on AirTran is always great (I've never had any delays on TRS at HPN). It depends on the day, but AirTran also offers Web Specials with fares as cheap as $59 each way.

    Let us know what you ultimately decide on.

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    Starting January 11th Air Tran will be flying MCO-SWF as well, starting prices are at $99 as well.

    Were in the Hudson Valley are you planning on going? SWF is about 30-40 minutes further north then HPN which might be easier. Another reason to go with jet Blue and SWF is that, as I am sure you know, jet Blue offers leather seats and Direct TV unlike Air Tran.

    Wow... I just realized I am really fighting for SWF here and HPNPilot is pulling for HPN, guess people really are loyal to their airports! :lol:
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  8. 2006-12-26, 08:56 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600
    Starting January 11th Air Tran will be flying MCO-SWF as well, starting prices are at $99 as well.

    Were in the Hudson Valley are you planning on going? SWF is about 30-40 minutes further north then HPN which might be easier. Another reason to go with jet Blue and SWF is that, as I am sure you know, jet Blue offers leather seats and Direct TV unlike Air Tran.
    However you can't beat the free XM radio available for every seat on the TRS 717s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600
    Wow... I just realized I am really fighting for SWF here and HPNPilot is pulling for HPN, guess people really are loyal to their airports! :lol:
    Ya can't help it! Your home base is like a second home...come stay! :lol:
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPNPilot1200
    However you can't beat the free XM radio available for every seat on the TRS 717s.
    jet Blue offers free XM as well.

    But jetblue, let us know where in the Hudson Valley she would be going because that could determine a lot and whether or not you pay the extra $10 for jet Blue or stick with Air Tran.
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    I am going to Patterson, NY (near Carmel). I am really in the planning stages and trying to talk my mother into going. I know she will have a good time if she goes.
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    Well Paterson is about 32 miles from SWF and 35 miles from HPN however the driving time from HPN to Patterson is about 8 minutes less.

    Both roads to Patterson are pretty direct so it really comes down to the fare, airline, and times of flights.

    Here is jet Blue's schedule:

    11:30 am Depart Orlando, FL (MCO)
    2:10 pm Arrive Newburgh, NY (SWF)

    6:35 pm Depart Orlando, FL (MCO)
    9:15 pm Arrive Newburgh, NY (SWF)

    Here is Air Tran's:

    8:25 AM Depart MCO
    10:56 AM Arrive HPN

    5:13 PM Depart MCO
    7:51 PM Arrive HPN

    2:25 PM Depart MCO
    4:55 PM Arrive SWF

    So as we know jet Blue and Air Tran to SWF are $99 and Air Tran to HPN is $79.

    jet Blue offers leather seats, xm radio, directTV, and A320s to an airport with less traffic.

    Air Tran offers xm radio, 717s, and a $10 less fare into a more busy airport with longer lines probably.

    Like HPN said let us know with what you go.
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    HPN is more busy than SWF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlueAirwaysFan
    HPN is more busy than SWF?
    Indeed.

    HPN:

    Departure City Airline Flight
    Number Arrival
    Time More Info
    Washington, DC 71 02:52 AM Landed
    Millville, NJ 36 04:42 AM Arrived
    Manassas, VA 63 06:42 AM Arrived
    Allentown, PA 58 07:43 AM Arrived
    Burlington, VT 791 08:06 AM Arrived
    Burlington, VT 486 10:07 AM Arrived
    Lancaster, PA 560 10:11 AM Arrived
    Washington, DC 71 10:13 AM Arrived
    Allentown, PA 73 11:25 AM Arrived
    Washington, DC 145 12:03 PM Arrived
    Teterboro, NJ 25 12:47 PM Arrived
    Cleveland, OH 437 01:11 PM Arrived
    Lorain/Elyria, OH 539 02:27 PM Arrived
    Jacksonville, FL 63 03:57 PM Planned
    Toronto, ON Air Georgian 7418 09:20 AM Arrived
    Toronto, ON Air Georgian 7422 05:07 PM Scheduled
    Philadelphia, PA Air Wisconsin 3640 09:57 PM Arrived
    Charlotte, NC Air Wisconsin 736A 10:24 PM Arrived
    Washington, DC Air Wisconsin 3636 08:47 AM Arrived
    Charlotte, NC Air Wisconsin 3962 12:30 PM Arrived
    Washington, DC Air Wisconsin 3740 02:13 PM Arrived
    Charlotte, NC Air Wisconsin 3976 04:53 PM Planned
    Atlanta, GA Airtran Airways 661 09:21 PM Arrived
    Orlando, FL Airtran Airways 678 11:44 AM Arrived
    Baltimore, MD Airtran Airways 665 12:24 PM Arrived
    Atlanta, GA Airtran Airways 665 12:36 PM Arrived
    West Palm Beach, FL Airtran Airways 663 12:37 PM Arrived
    Tampa, FL Airtran Airways 647 01:55 PM Arrived
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Airtran Airways 671 02:35 PM Arrived
    Fort Myers, FL Airtran Airways 656 04:04 PM In Flight
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 416 09:49 PM Arrived
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 418 10:46 PM Arrived
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 420 09:31 AM Arrived
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 412 12:45 PM Arrived
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 414 02:29 PM Arrived
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 483 03:35 PM In Flight
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 424 05:01 PM Scheduled
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 436 05:54 PM Scheduled
    Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 158 09:16 PM Arrived
    Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 392 11:41 PM Arrived
    Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 216 02:25 PM Arrived
    Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 90 04:15 PM In Flight
    Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 549 06:20 PM Scheduled
    Teterboro, NJ Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 334 07:04 AM Arrived
    Teterboro, NJ Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 248 07:16 AM Arrived
    Teterboro, NJ Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 434 08:59 AM Arrived
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 253 09:03 AM Arrived
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 327 10:44 AM Arrived
    Bedford, MA Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 420 01:31 PM Arrived
    Philadelphia, PA Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 335 02:39 PM Landed
    Teterboro, NJ Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 617 02:44 PM Arrived
    Bedford, MA Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 322 03:31 PM Planned
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 326 04:03 PM Landed
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 326 04:09 PM In Flight
    Chicago, IL Chautauqua Airlines 7776 02:42 PM Arrived
    State College, PA Colgan Air 5228 11:44 AM Arrived
    Washington, DC Colgan Air 5228 12:28 PM Landed
    Washington, DC Colgan Air 5234 10:53 PM Scheduled
    Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc. 692 01:12 PM Arrived
    Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc. 1390 04:07 PM In Flight
    Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc. 390 05:24 PM Scheduled
    Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc. 332 09:32 PM Scheduled
    Boston, MA Commutair 8794 08:21 AM Arrived
    Rochester, NY Commutair 8807 08:41 AM Arrived
    Cleveland, OH Continental Express/ExpressJet Airlines 2370 09:11 AM Arrived
    Hartford, CT Continental Express/ExpressJet Airlines 2370 01:00 PM Arrived
    Cleveland, OH Continental Express/ExpressJet Airlines 3234 05:28 PM Scheduled
    West Palm Beach, FL Corporate Wings 733 09:14 AM Arrived
    West Palm Beach, FL Corporate Wings 928 12:26 PM Arrived
    Fairhope, AL Corporate Wings 825 03:14 PM In Flight
    Wilmington, DE Corporate Wings 470 03:45 PM Planned
    Wilmington, DE Corporate Wings 470 03:56 PM In Flight
    Sarasota, FL Corporate Wings 840 04:15 PM In Flight
    Sarasota, FL Corporate Wings 482 04:17 PM In Flight
    Jackson, WY Delta AirElite 477 07:23 PM Planned
    Stuart, FL Executive Jet Aviation 861 09:09 PM Arrived
    Charleston, SC Executive Jet Aviation 363 11:33 PM Arrived
    West Palm Beach, FL Executive Jet Aviation 916 12:13 AM Arrived
    Bedford, MA Executive Jet Aviation 606 09:25 AM Arrived
    Washington, DC Executive Jet Aviation 948 09:34 AM Arrived
    Sarasota, FL Executive Jet Aviation 315 11:23 AM Arrived
    West Palm Beach, FL Executive Jet Aviation 227 12:24 PM Arrived
    Melbourne, FL Executive Jet Aviation 614 01:26 PM Arrived
    Poughkeepsie, NY Executive Jet Aviation 655 01:33 PM Arrived
    Wilmington, NC Executive Jet Aviation 676 02:02 PM Arrived
    Charlottesville, VA Executive Jet Aviation 978 03:10 PM Planned
    Portland, ME Executive Jet Aviation 634 03:21 PM In Flight
    Portland, ME Executive Jet Aviation 628 03:34 PM In Flight
    Durango, CO Executive Jet Aviation 932 03:42 PM In Flight
    Naples, FL Executive Jet Aviation 977 03:51 PM Planned
    Chicago, IL Executive Jet Aviation 637 03:53 PM Planned
    Executive Jet Aviation 331 04:07 PM Planned
    West Palm Beach, FL Executive Jet Aviation 962 04:12 PM Planned
    New London, CT Executive Jet Aviation 727 04:34 PM Planned
    West Palm Beach, FL Executive Jet Aviation 929 05:50 PM Planned
    Wilmington, NC Executive Jet Aviation 961 06:00 PM Planned
    Toronto, ON Executive Jet Aviation 874 06:09 PM Planned
    Tulsa, OK Executive Jet Aviation 712 06:36 PM Planned
    Lawrenceville, GA Executive Jet Management 124 07:27 AM Arrived
    New Haven, CT Executive Jet Management 979 08:25 AM Arrived
    Manassas, VA Executive Jet Management 57 11:21 AM Arrived
    Vail, CO Executive Jet Management 331 07:31 PM Planned
    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 3788 10:37 PM Arrived
    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2924 12:20 PM Arrived
    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2944 03:13 PM In Flight
    Minneapolis, MN Express Airlines 4752 04:51 PM In Flight
    Cleveland, OH Five Star Airlines 408 12:28 PM Arrived
    Orlando, FL Five Star Airlines 556 12:58 PM Arrived
    Boca Raton, FL Five Star Airlines 608 02:02 PM Arrived
    Toledo, OH Five Star Airlines 124 04:07 PM In Flight
    Baltimore, MD HPJ *update 88 01:42 PM Arrived
    Laurel, MS HPJ *update 65 03:53 PM In Flight
    Punta Cana HPJ *update 203 06:43 PM Planned
    Hartford, CT Northwest Air Services 52 08:03 AM Arrived
    Plymouth, MA Northwest Air Services 268 03:26 PM Planned
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Presidential Air 101 08:41 AM Arrived
    Chicago, IL ShuttleAmerica 7604 09:07 PM Arrived
    Chicago, IL ShuttleAmerica 7748 10:16 AM Arrived
    Chicago, IL ShuttleAmerica 7584 04:49 PM Scheduled
    Washington, DC TAG Aviation 465 07:14 AM Arrived
    Oxford, CT TAG Aviation 520 09:00 AM Arrived
    Napa, CA TAG Aviation 450 06:29 PM In Flight
    West Palm Beach, FL United Executive Jet 850 04:07 PM Planned
    Philadelphia, PA USAir Express 4515 02:38 PM Scheduled

    SWF:

    Philadelphia, PA 606 05:50 PM Planned
    Philadelphia, PA Air Wisconsin 3602 12:32 AM Arrived
    Halifax, NS Airborne Express 2254 03:01 PM In Flight
    Saint Petersburg, FL Allegiant Air 869 10:28 PM Arrived
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 29 09:41 PM Arrived
    Chicago, IL American Eagle 21 12:23 PM Arrived
    Huntsville, AL Corporate Wings 436 09:16 AM Arrived
    Syracuse, NY Executive Jet Aviation 315 01:52 PM Arrived
    Naples, FL Executive Jet Aviation 867 04:17 PM In Flight
    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2862 11:15 PM Arrived
    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2864 03:31 PM In Flight
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Jetblue Airways 566 09:37 PM Arrived
    Orlando, FL Jetblue Airways 576 01:43 PM Arrived
    Saint Louis, MO Light Air Transport And Technical Services 7 07:05 AM Arrived
    Louisville, KY United Parcel Service 1088 05:36 AM Arrived
    Philadelphia, PA USAir Express 4631 11:19 AM Arrived
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    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2862 11:15 PM Arrived
    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2864 03:31 PM In Flight
    Express Airlines? Is that Pinnacle or Mesaba?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwafan20
    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2862 11:15 PM Arrived
    Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2864 03:31 PM In Flight
    Express Airlines? Is that Pinnacle or Mesaba?
    Pinnacle.
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