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    PAAQ-Palmer, Alaska-07/2013

    Hello all,

    The Alaskan spotting continued with a smaller airport that many are liable to have never heard of, Palmer Municipal Airport. This was an out of the way little place I had found on google earth while scouting out potential stopping points on our way from Anchorage to Denali. What piqued my interest was the presence of two ex-military C-119 Flying Boxcars on the satellite imagery, so we decided to swing by to try and catch a glimpse. What was supposed to be a hit and run, shooting through the fence, quickly turned into more when the owner of the aircraft not only invited us onto the ramp, but onboard the aircraft, which is soon to return to a fully operational status, all things continuing to go well. While this is probably the least "exciting" set of images to the lovers of big jets and the like that I took during this trip, it was certainly a very unique experience, and one which I hope some of you will enjoy!

    There are two C-119s on the field, and this one is not flightworthy, and is the only one to feature the auxiliary jet engine mounter up top.







    The owner chatting with us from the cockpit before we climbed in




    The C-119 was designed primarily to airdrop infantry, hence the two paratroop doors in the rear. Some interesting anecdotes shared with us were that paratroops had to alternate sides, and could not jump from both doors simultaneously, lest they collide in mid air. Additionally, they could fly with the doors removed, although this precluded the use of flaps. Additionally, as you may be able to make out, the rear fuselage splits vertically to allow things like jeeps or howitzers to be on or offloaded.




    Where the loadmaster controlled the doors




    The flightdeck













    And here is an overview of the flightworthy bird





    On our way into the airport, I noticed what appeared to be two Convairs parked on the opposite side of the field, so we swung around once again hoping to poke my lense through the fence and grab a couple of shots. However, the firefighters and pilots at the department of forestry were kind enough to invite me out onto their ramp as well, making these shots possible. My first Convair 580's, and what a treat they were!

    Their pilot aircraft

















    Also located on the field were these two DC-3s, which regularly operate within the area. Sadly we had to leave before either of them flew, but operational DC-3s are a treat, static or not.












    On our way back from Denali several days later, we decided to pass through PAAQ again to follow up on mention I had heard of an operational DC-4 that operates in the area. It was absent during our first visit, but the idea of a potential flightworthy DC-4 was too good to pass up. Imagine our surprise to discover not one, but 2 flightworthy DC-4s, one of which had just ferried to Palmer for return to service the day before! Once more what was intended to be a quick photo turned into a ramp and cockpit invite from the friendly locals.




    This gal hadn't flown in over a year before they ferried here to Palmer







    Some pretty fancy avionics for an old bird, loving that Ipad in there!







    If you've ever wondered how they get heating oil, diesel fuel, or other petro-goods out to the small mines or settlements, well, now you know! Load it in a DC-4 and fly it out.








    All in all, Palmer was an incredible experience. It isn't often that one gets to get hands on with such classic aircraft that are still earning their keep as anything other than warbirds or museum pieces. While the C-119's future is far from certain (and I am in fact assisting the owner in locating some parts he needs) it seems like the Douglas birds will soldier on indefinitely. As a true testament to their strength and ruggedness, their crew chief once told me that they had flown one for a considerable amount of time with a broken main spar, and had no idea!

    Anyhow, I hope you enjoyed this little set. Some more exciting, more traditional images to come!

    Cheers,

    Nick

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    Very nice. Very very nice. Some real gems there. NIce to see them still flying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickPeterman View Post
    While this is probably the least "exciting" set of images to the lovers of big jets and the like that I took during this trip, it was certainly a very unique experience, and one which I hope some of you will enjoy!
    "I don't think so Tim" as Al used to say on "Home Improvement." I can go out to almost any airport in the country and see jets, but old airplanes with round engines are not so common anymore. I could sit and look at pictures of old airplanes all day. Very nice set of pictures.

    Wasn't it nice to be treated well instead of looked at as a potential terrorist threatening to blow up the world? I remember when I was learning to fly I spent a lot of time at the Arlington, Washington airport where they used to do maintenance on airplanes like these in the off season. I had a blast walking around looking at and photographing them.

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    I am absolutely in awe Nick.
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    Thanks Steve, Snyder, Wunala. I am glad to see someone else enjoys the old round-engined planes of yester-year. Too many photographers I know won't get excited if it isn't a special scheme, possessing an afterburner, or use a heavy call sign. I would have been content to hang there with the radials all week, but sadly other business called.

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    Wow - those are great catches!! Really unique stuff!!!
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    i flew DC3s and Convair 340s for a living from '87-'99, I have a deep and abiding affection for those heavy props,especially the working breed,keep the Alaskan pix coming !!!
    The beehive hummm of the JT9D and GE CF680C2,the thunder of the JT8D-17,the rumble of the PW1830 and the high ,thin whine of the PW 545A are all music to my ears!

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    Love the pictures of the old guys!! Reminds me of the planes that Buffalo Airways flew in "Ice Pilots". I guess the old planes like to go north instead of south in their old age!!

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