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    Northeast Snowstorm 1/7-1/8

    Not as bad as last week's storm, but this will still be enough to mess up travel in the northeast Friday-Saturday.



    URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
    1154 AM EST THU JAN 6 2011

    ...SNOW EXPECTED FRIDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING...

    CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-
    070100-
    /O.CON.KOKX.WS.A.0001.110107T1100Z-110108T1100Z/
    NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-NORTHERN NEW HAVEN-NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-
    NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-
    SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-WESTERN PASSAIC-
    EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-EASTERN BERGEN-
    WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-EASTERN UNION-ORANGE-
    PUTNAM-ROCKLAND-NORTHERN WESTCHESTER-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-
    NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-
    KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-
    SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHERN QUEENS-
    NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-
    1154 AM EST THU JAN 6 2011

    ...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY MORNING
    THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT...

    A WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY MORNING
    THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT.

    * LOCATIONS...ALL OF SOUTHEASTERN NY INCLUDING THE 5 BOROUGHS OF
    NYC AND LONG ISLAND...NORTHEASTERN NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHERN
    CONNECTICUT.

    * HAZARDS...SNOW...WHICH MAY BE HEAVY FOR A PERIOD LATE FRIDAY
    MORNING INTO FRIDAY EVENING.

    * ACCUMULATIONS...GENERALLY 2 TO 5 INCHES. 6 INCHES OR SLIGHTLY
    MORE IS POSSIBLE WHERE SNOW BANDS LINGERS LONGEST.

    * VISIBILITIES...GENERALLY 1 TO 3 MILES...BUT 1/2 MILE OR LESS IN
    HEAVIER SNOW BAND.

    * TIMING...LIGHT SNOW BEGINS EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. HEAVIER BAND
    EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AND TRANSLATE EAST LATE FRIDAY MORNING INTO
    THE EVENING...AND COULD IMPACT AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING TRAVEL.
    THE TIMING OF THE BAND COULD CHANGE A BIT...SO PLEASE MONITOR
    UPDATED FORECASTS.

    PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

    A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
    SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.
    CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Continental, American, and JetBlue have had weather advisories posted since last night with the option of rebooking for passengers yet Delta doesn't seem to be too concerned. I have a flight tomorrow to JFK on Delta and have not been able to get any sense of their plans except that the reservations representative had no clue and the Delta staff at SJU expected it not to be a problem. Hopefully they post something soon!

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    oh man. This is gonna suck. Last weeks storm did some serious damage.

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    Gordon don;t worry... the planes can land on snow... maybe not safely, but they can force it down on the ground Ridiculous how they can leave people hanging like that. Is it more convenient to wait to the last minute financially or something? True it may not be that bad in the end, but why take a chance?
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    Gordon don;t worry... the planes can land on snow... maybe not safely, but they can force it down on the ground
    What? Planes land safely in the snow all the time. What do you think they do in MSP, Alaska, Canada? I myself have landed quite safely in snow at JFK a few times. Let's not get ridiculous here. Sure any snow will throw a monkey wrench into operations and positioning of aircraft, crews, etc; but the impact to safety should be minimal if nothing...

    Good luck Gordon. I've personally toured the Delta OCC here in Atlanta and I would assure you that they are well aware of any weather and potential impact to operations, especially at a hub like JFK. If they haven't issued a weather waiver yet, then I would expect that they anticipate on running a close to normal schedule.
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    JetBlue:
    Due to impending weather in the Northeast and possible delays, JetBlue is allowing customers the option to voluntarily rebook their travel without incurring change fees or fare differences. If your travel plans include one of the following airports, and you would like to make a change to a new flight without fee or fare difference, please call 1-800-JETBLUE to discuss re-accommodation options. Customers traveling on Friday, January 7th through Sunday January 9th, 2011 may move to a new flight between the same cities, that departs anytime between now and Thursday, January 13, 2011. Original travel must have been booked on or before January 5, 2011. Changes must be made prior to your originally scheduled departure.
    · Boston (BOS)
    · John F. Kennedy (JFK)
    · Newark (EWR)
    · La Guardia (LGA)
    · White Plains (HPN)
    · Stewart International (SWF)
    · Bradley International (BDL)
    · Portland, Maine International (PWM)
    American Airlines:
    Northeast Coastal Travel Policy
    Due to the anticipated weather impact on the Northeastern U.S. coastal area, American Airlines offers customers the convenience to change their plans. Customers ticketed to travel on American Airlines flights to or from the areas listed may change flights as shown without penalty.


    If you are traveling to/from/through:

    Allentown/Bethlehem, PA (ABE)
    Boston, MA (BOS)
    Buffalo, NY (BUF)
    Harrisburg, PA (MDT)
    Hartford, CT (BDL)
    Newark, NJ (EWR)
    New York Kennedy (JFK)
    New York LaGuardia (LGA)
    Philadelphia, PA (PHL)
    Pittsburg, PA (PIT)
    Rochester, NY (ROC)
    Scranton-Wilkes, PA (AVP)
    Syracuse, NY (SYR)
    Westchester, NY (HPN)



    On the following date: January 7-8, 2011


    And your ticket was issued no later than: January 5, 2011


    You may begin travel as late as: January 9, 2011
    Continental
    Re-accommodations
    In some cases where severe weather and other uncontrollable events are impacting Continental's operations, we will issue an exception policy designed to accommodate customers with restricted tickets allowing changes to travel plans in advance of any potential disruption. Exception policies currently in effect are listed below:


    Travel to/from/through
    Continental Hub:

    • New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
    • Albany, NY (ALB)
    • Baltimore, MD (BWI)
    • Boston, MA (BOS)
    • Buffalo, NY (BUF)
    • Harrisburg, PA (MDT)
    • New York, NY (LGA - LaGuardia)
    • New York, NY (JFK)
    • Philadelphia, PA (PHL)
    • Pittsburgh, PA (PIT)
    • Rochester, NY (ROC)
    • Syracuse, NY (SYR)
    • Washington, DC (DCA - National)
    • Washington, DC (IAD - Dulles)

    Original Travel Dates:
    January 7, 2010- January 9, 2010

    Final Travel must be completed by:
    End of Validity of ticket (one year from date of issue)

    Flight Changes:
    • When rescheduled travel commences by January 23, 2011, change fees and fare differences will be waived.
    • For all other changes, the change fee will be waived, but a difference in fare may apply.

    Refunds
    • OnePass rewards may be cancelled and redeposited for no fee.
    Southwest
    Wintry Weather Conditions Southwest Airlines is monitoring a winter weather system that is forecasted to bring wintry precipitation to some of our cities during the next few days.


    Currently, we are operating our scheduled service; however, as the weather conditions change, there is the possibility that our flights could be disrupted (delayed, diverted, and/or cancelled). For specific flight information, please check Flight Status Information.


    Customers holding reservations to/from Albany, Baltimore/Washington, Buffalo, New York LaGuardia, Long Island/MacArthur, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Washington Dulles on Friday, January 7, through Sunday, January 9, are eligible to reschedule their flight in accordance with our accommodation procedures.


    If you would like to rebook online, please click reschedule your flight. For Customers who did not purchase their ticket via southwest.com, please call us at 1-800-435-9792 to rebook their flight in the original class of service or travel standby (within 14 days of the original date of travel between the original city-pairs) without paying any additional charge.
    US Airways
    North East Coastal Storm
    Last Updated: 1/5/2011 2:12 PM ET
    Cities Affected

    Hartford/Springfield, CT ; New Haven, CT ; Portland, ME ; Boston, MA ; Manchester, NH ; Newark, NJ ; Islip, NY ; New York, NY (Laguardia) ; New York, NY (JFK) ; White Plains, NY ; Providence, RI

    Date Range

    1/5/2011 2:15 PM ET through 1/8/2011 11:59 PM ET
    Revised Ticket Policy


    We’ve relaxed our change-fee policies. If your trip is affected, you can change your trip online (in most cases) -- we’ll waive your change fees!

    Here’s how:

    • Book the same origin and destination
    • Move your entire trip up to 7 days before or after the scheduled departure date

    You may have to pay to change your trip if:

    • You change your origin and/or destination
    • You travel more than 7 days outside your originally scheduled trip
    • There is a difference in fare

    Please call if:

    • You’re traveling internationally
    • Part or all of your trip is on another airline
    • You don’t see a ‘Change my trip’ link when you pull up your reservation

    Change your trip online at usairways.com/manageyourtrip

    If you need help, please call 800-428-4322.
    AirTran
    Winter Weather Affecting Northeast Travel
    January 6, 2011, 1:00 pm ET – Due to a winter weather system forecast to move into the Northeast over the next several days, some flight operations may be affected, resulting in possible flight delays and/or cancellations.
    Passengers who are traveling to, from or through the affected cities during the travel period detailed below may adjust their travel dates one day prior or up to three days following their originally scheduled date of travel based on space availability, without change fees or fare adjustments.
    Travel Period: Fri, Jan 7, through 12 noon ET on Sat, Jan 8

    • Allentown, PA
    • Atlantic City, NJ
    • Boston, MA
    • Harrisburg, PA
    • New York, NY — LaGuardia
    • Philadelphia, PA
    • Portland, ME
    • White Plains, NY

    New Travel Options

    1 day prior to or up to 3 days following the originally scheduled date of travel.
    To adjust your travel plans, you may retrieve your itinerary and make changes online.
    These booking options may be adjusted if the weather pattern changes. We urge passengers to check their flight status online in the Flight Status section of our website.
    Status updates will be issued as needed.
    Last edited by Matt Molnar; 2011-01-06 at 04:50 PM.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Winter Storm Watch downgraded to Winter Weather Advisory for NYC, 2-5 inches still forecast...

    Winter Weather Advisory

    URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
    357 PM EST THU JAN 6 2011

    ...SNOW EXPECTED FRIDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING...

    NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ072>075-078-080-176>179-070500-
    /O.UPG.KOKX.WS.A.0001.110107T1100Z-110108T1100Z/
    /O.NEW.KOKX.WW.Y.0001.110107T0900Z-110108T0600Z/
    WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-
    EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-
    EASTERN UNION-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-
    KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-
    NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-
    357 PM EST THU JAN 6 2011

    ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM FRIDAY TO 1 AM EST
    SATURDAY...

    THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER
    ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM FRIDAY TO 1 AM EST
    SATURDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.


    * LOCATIONS...THE 5 BOROUGHS OF NYC...WESTERN LONG
    ISLAND...AND NORTHEASTERN NEW JERSEY.

    * HAZARDS...SNOW...WHICH MAY BE HEAVY FOR A PERIOD LATE FRIDAY
    MORNING INTO FRIDAY EVENING.

    * ACCUMULATIONS...GENERALLY 2 TO 5 INCHES.

    * VISIBILITIES...GENERALLY 1 TO 3 MILES...BUT 1/2 MILE OR LESS IN
    HEAVIER SNOW BAND.

    * TIMING...LIGHT SNOW BEGINS EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. HEAVIER BAND
    EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AND TRANSLATE EAST LATE FRIDAY MORNING INTO
    THE EVENING...AND MAY IMPACT AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING TRAVEL. THE
    TIMING OF THE BAND COULD CHANGE A BIT...SO PLEASE MONITOR
    UPDATED FORECASTS.

    PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

    A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR
    FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR
    SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE
    DRIVING.

    &&

    $$
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Well Delta finally put up an advisory and I was able to change for early Saturday afternoon. Hopefully this change was necessary!

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    Really wasnt much of a storm. A little over-reaction perhaps because of the "Day After Xmas Storm"?
    By the time I left work the sun was out and setting over Manhattan. Back on LI out of the LIRR and here comes one of the Cablevision 76s over the station low and loud into Bethpage.
    Always looks cool like that in inclement weather. One thing I do have to say is that sometimes one inch of snow can be just as bigger pain than 20. Went out around 8 to do a quick
    shovel of the driveway and there was a layer of black ice under the snow. Streets were very slippery. But it was clear with no wind and checked out a number of JFK 22 arrivals that came
    cruising overhead.
    Now they are watching for a "possible" bigger storm Tues night into Wed.

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    As long as it still looks clear I will be happy, and now the forecast is clear through at least Monday! As long as I can get off early tomorrow JFK and BOS Here I come!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawks7757 View Post
    As long as it still looks clear I will be happy, and now the forecast is clear through at least Monday! As long as I can get off early tomorrow JFK and BOS Here I come!!!
    Hey what about MSP!
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    Looks like it's not going to do much here in Boston

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    Airplanes can land in snow very safely... The largest issues during weather events are three things... Available infastructure as in plowed runways and taxiways, present icing conditions andrunway braking conditions.. Blowing snow is a problem because it creates inaccurate braking reports sometimes.. It also prevents the runway treatment from being entirely effective... A good example of what creates a safety issue for airplanes in snow is the recent overrun at JAC... That airports runway is ungrooved and is not eledgeable for treatment beyond basic plowing because of its location in a national park.
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