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    DRONE OVER BROOKLYN?

    NYCAviation did report this first on twitter.


    Pilot reports spotting 'drone' over BrooklynBy Aaron Cooper,CNN

    updated 10:25 PM EST, Mon March 4, 2013

    The pilot of an Alitalia jet reported he saw an unmannedaircraft
    The pilot said he spotted the other aircraft while was landinghis jet at New York's JFK Airport
    The FAA is investigating
    (CNN) -- Was there a drone flying over Brooklyn Mondayafternoon?

    The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating areport from a pilot of an Alitalia passenger jet who says he saw an unmannedaircraft while landing at John F. Kennedy Airport in New York.

    "We saw a drone, a drone aircraft," the pilot canbe heard telling controllers on radio calls captured by the websiteLiveATC.net.

    "The FAA is investigating a report... he saw a small,unmanned or remote-controlled aircraft while on final approach to Runway 31Right," according a statement sent to CNN by FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown."The sighting was approximately four to five miles west of the airport atan altitude of approximately 1,500 feet," she said.

    That description puts the aircraft somewhere over Brooklynand on the other side of the airport from where the plane was coming in for alanding.

    The Alitalia aircraft did not have to take any evasiveaction and landed safely at JFK.

    Air traffic controllers warned other planes approaching therunway of the drone report, but at least two other pilots radioed they did notsee it.

    A spokesman for the New York Police Department was not awareof the incident and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, whichoperates the airport, referred CNN to the FAA.

    Unmanned aerial systems, sometimes called drones, and otherremote-controlled planes could pose a risk to larger passenger aircraft if theycollided or were sucked into an engine.

    For recreational hobbyists, flying remote-controlled planesis only allowed by the FAA up to 400 feet in the air, and within sight of theoperator. If they are going to fly within three miles of an airport, they haveto let air traffic controllers know.

    Flying unmanned aerial vehicles is illegal for most businesspurposes; however, governments and public entities such as police departmentscan apply for permission to operate them.

    The FAA has been working to setup new rules and to safelyintegrate the use of unmanned aircraft into the national air space, and lastyear opened an "unmanned aircraft systems integration" office.

    CNN's Rob Frehse contributed to this report.

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    How would you be able to tell the difference between a remote control airplane and an actual drone from that distance? I bet there are RCA models of drones that people fly- hell, my neighbor has an RCA F-22

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    If it was that far away, it must have been a decent size for him to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose135 View Post
    If it was that far away, it must have been a decent size for him to see it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by moose135 View Post
    If it was that far away, it must have been a decent size for him to see it.
    I thought about that, but the smaller drones and the larger RCA's approach each other in size, don't they?


    they even have one based on the real thing

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    While I shooting yesterday and listening to the scanner I heard of the drone. A NYPD copter was dispatched to where the sighting may have occurred and they reported nothing was seen. Other approaching aircraft saw nothing either. Not sure how this is associated with Brooklyn since they were landing on the 31s.
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    I agree that the final approach to Rwy 31R is near Long Beach and Woodmere, which is nowhere near Brooklyn. Why was Brooklyn mentioned? Which Alitalia arrival was it, AZA 604, 610, etc?

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    Ironic that they go after airplane spotters carrying telephoto lenses and sometimes with scanners but rarely pursue guys with lasers aimed at cockpits or drones flown by remote control. Spotters are always the ones getting harrassed!

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    Brooklyn would be quite a sighting from approach to 31R. This just sounds quite wrong.
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    Wonder if it was this kind of drone:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cSxEqKQ78

    But flying these things close to JFK airspace is unbelievably stupid.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedbird1 View Post
    Ironic that they go after airplane spotters carrying telephoto lenses and sometimes with scanners but rarely pursue guys with lasers aimed at cockpits or drones flown by remote control. Spotters are always the ones getting harrassed!
    They are very aggressive about finding people pointing lasers at aircraft. When they find someone, they are prosecuted. And being asked to show ID when I'm spotting is hardly being "harrassed".

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    I wonder if instead of a drone it might have been a less common piloted aircraft that was misidentified. Maybe something like the P180 that Jason photographed at LGA yesterday.
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    those reaper and predator drones though fairly large would be hard to see in brooklyn airspace when on finals for 31R. you are oriented to your 12 'oclock on final, and South Ozone Park is what you would be viddying, he would have to have incredibly sharp eyes and be looking west of the Aqueduct toward Starret City, a drone at that distance would be virtually invisible.
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    maybe it's the guy in the video that is posted on this site in Dec 2010???

    http://nycaviation.com/forum/threads...an-RC-Aircraft

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    I just hope this doesn't result in an increased police presence at nearby parks and spotting areas surrounding JFK....
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