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    What's the lighthouse project?

    I agree their location is terrible. Very tucked away and just no natural exposure unless you're there for something else.
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    The Lighthouse project was Charles Wang's plan to develop the area around the Nassau Coliseum, which would have included a new Coliseum, hotels, and office space as well as some residential buildings if I am not mistaken. Unfortunately Wang was at odds with the Town of Hempstead who made him scale it back to a point where it may not make sense any more, so if not already dead it may be on Life Support.

    I agree the museum is in a very bad location...albeit one appropriate to its heritage... I remember as a child watching bombers cross Hempstead Turnpike landing at Mitchell Field, but I guess I am really dating myself now considering the base closed to air traffic around 1961....
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    I'd also like to add that while the Intrepid doesn't rotate anything, they removed the massive sculpture of the flag-raising at Iwo Jima, and also the piece of the AA 767 that hit Tower 1 on 9/11. Both were my favorites there and they yanked them for no good reason. Lame.
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    This is what the Lighthouse Project is/was supposed to look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art at ISP View Post
    The Lighthouse project was Charles Wang's plan to develop the area around the Nassau Coliseum, which would have included a new Coliseum, hotels, and office space as well as some residential buildings if I am not mistaken. Unfortunately Wang was at odds with the Town of Hempstead who made him scale it back to a point where it may not make sense any more, so if not already dead it may be on Life Support.

    I agree the museum is in a very bad location...albeit one appropriate to its heritage... I remember as a child watching bombers cross Hempstead Turnpike landing at Mitchell Field, but I guess I am really dating myself now considering the base closed to air traffic around 1961....
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    Not sure if anybody has noticed this but take a look at their ticket prices:

    http://www.cradleofaviation.org/gene.../generalf.html

    Last year when I visited it was only $9 for basic admission:

    http://replay.web.archive.org/200810.../generalf.html

    So despite not having any new exhibits their idea of attracting more people is to jack up ticket prices ???

    Are they freaking kidding ?
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    Well I went to day and got $25 dollar year pass with IMAX movie! It was well worth it and look forward to returning with Ken and hope Moose can join us. Here are just a few of the pictures I took today and was happy to see more things on display than the last time I was there. I was amazed to find that the P-47 was the LAST MADE P-47!!!!



























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    Sorry for bumping up this thread, but I was wondering with the announcement 6 months ago that the Islanders will vacate Nassau Coliseum, will this affect museum attendance considering that this area will now become a ghost town ? Are they even able to make a profit or does the revenue from their IMAX theater help prop them up ? Does Nassau county provide any financial support ? Of all the museums I have attended this one always has the fewest visitors whenever I visit. Their $25 membership is a relative bargain compared to other institutions.

    Having visited all 3 aviation museums in the NY area recently, the Intrepid really comes off as an underwhelming experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alberchico View Post
    Sorry for bumping up this thread, but I was wondering with the announcement 6 months ago that the Islanders will vacate Nassau Coliseum, will this affect museum attendance considering that this area will now become a ghost town?
    This area will not be a ghost town. Still lots of interest in developing it from a number of sources.
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    I've been to the Cradle on several occasions, and it has never impressed me. They need to do a serious revamp of their offerings, and like the others have said, the location is subpar. Besides Roosevelt Field, why else would one need to go to Garden City? It's a long trip from CT/NJ and even NYC.
    Maybe some sort of partnership with Intrepid?
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    The only thing that would generate constant revenue is a casino. Anything else is going to be more of the same.
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    I guess I will chime in here as well. I visited the museum sometime last year, and it was super disappointing. Nothing is up to date, and the entire place just has a feel of "oh, this stuff is all really old." They had a looping display of radar traffic that must be from the late 90s, when they could just show Planefinder. Also had an ancient recording of ATC, when they could just play LiveATC.
    Would not go back until they revamp the entire place.
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    I was there a couple weeks ago and loved it just as much as always. I'd rather drive out there than go to the Intrepid still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yankees368 View Post
    I guess I will chime in here as well. I visited the museum sometime last year, and it was super disappointing. Nothing is up to date, and the entire place just has a feel of "oh, this stuff is all really old." They had a looping display of radar traffic that must be from the late 90s, when they could just show Planefinder. Also had an ancient recording of ATC, when they could just play LiveATC.
    Would not go back until they revamp the entire place.
    It's a museum. Things are supposed to be old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wunaladreamin View Post
    It's a museum. Things are supposed to be old.
    A museum does not have to look and feel old as well. Their displays, such as what i mentioned above, are not supposed to be old. The ride that they advertize, does not have to be old and run of 35mm film. A museums pieces can be old, but the museum itself should not be.
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