MacArthur: A Welcome Departure

**nightbeacons** · 2010-01-13, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Art at ISP

Boy I am old.....I just remembered--I learned to fly at Zahn's!!!!

A bit off-topic. I am building a replica of Zahns for use in a flight simulator.
(Project details at http://research.sun.com/zahns and http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/grou ... 4035696918 )

I am looking for pilots who flew at Zahns who might have some old photos of the place that they might be willing to share.

Would you have any old Zahns photos? (or know anyone who might)?

Thanks so much,

Charlie Jackson
Zahns Airport Project

**T-Bird76** · 2010-01-13, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Art at ISP

I have seen old generation DC-8's at ISP, and I THINK Northeastern brought the A300 there a few times...so there has been some widebody activity at ISP.

I specifically remember watching a loaded DC-8 take off in the mid 80's....could have clipped the roofs of cars climbing out from 24.....

Boy I am old.....I just remembered--I learned to fly at Zahn's!!!!

That's correct Art, Northeastern did operate DC-8s out of there. I can recall them screaming over my house blowing thick black smoke as they went by. I also do recall if I'm remembering correctly Ron saying they did have A300s there. Eastern brought in the 757 to ISP for sometime as well.

**moose135** · 2010-01-13, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Art at ISP

Boy I am old.....I just remembered--I learned to fly at Zahn's!!!!

Yes you are...of course, when I learned to fly at FRG, Zahn's was still open...Rwy 32 meant right traffic only, cut your base leg tight to avoid crossing the Southern State...roll out on runway heading over the numbers...

**hiss srq** · 2010-01-14, 04:27 PM

That is still fun to do if ATC will let you.

NLovis · 2010-01-15, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by lijk604

Originally Posted by hiss srq

Even at 7,000 and change you can get most modern jets in and out of there. Heck, lightly loaded 747's can get in and out of that runway if you wanted to so a heavy loaded Airbus or a 757 could defineately do the job on all but the hottest summer days I would venture.

You are forgetting one small item. Just because a runway is a certain length, doesn't mean it is RATED for the heavier weights. As per the FAA-AFD (Airport Facility Directory) ISP cannot handle an aircraft over 300,000lbs. So, a 757-200 is the biggest you will see there.

Runway 6/24
Dimensions: 7006 x 150 ft. / 2135 x 46 m
Surface: asphalt/grooved, in excellent condition
Weight bearing capacity:
Single wheel: 100.0
Double wheel: 210.0
Double tandem: 300.0

I'm still going back to what I said. You can probably fit MD-80's in there.

**hiss srq** · 2010-01-15, 02:34 PM

You CAN fit MD-80's in there. AA used to do it all the time. Spirit flew them there. USAir occasionally subbed one there and SunJet I think used to serve ISP with them as well. In fact, I flew on a few Spirit ones to RSW in the late 90's to RSW.

**T-Bird76** · 2010-01-15, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by NLovis

Originally Posted by lijk604

Originally Posted by hiss srq

Even at 7,000 and change you can get most modern jets in and out of there. Heck, lightly loaded 747's can get in and out of that runway if you wanted to so a heavy loaded Airbus or a 757 could defineately do the job on all but the hottest summer days I would venture.

You are forgetting one small item. Just because a runway is a certain length, doesn't mean it is RATED for the heavier weights. As per the FAA-AFD (Airport Facility Directory) ISP cannot handle an aircraft over 300,000lbs. So, a 757-200 is the biggest you will see there.

Runway 6/24
Dimensions: 7006 x 150 ft. / 2135 x 46 m
Surface: asphalt/grooved, in excellent condition
Weight bearing capacity:
Single wheel: 100.0
Double wheel: 210.0
Double tandem: 300.0

I'm still going back to what I said. You can probably fit MD-80's in there.

You can get MD80s in there. AA use to run MD's to RDU and ORD before downsizing to F100s, then ERJs...then nothing.

**hiss srq** · 2010-01-15, 05:26 PM

Oh, wow, I totally forgot about the RDU hib service. I miss seeing the Fokker tail popping up over the terminal building there when you would pull in over on the corner where Southwest is now. Or better yet, Carnival 734 and 732 action. Did ISP ever see Carnival /PanAm 722's there?

**T-Bird76** · 2010-01-15, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by hiss srq

Oh, wow, I totally forgot about the RDU hib service. I miss seeing the Fokker tail popping up over the terminal building there when you would pull in over on the corner where Southwest is now. Or better yet, Carnival 734 and 732 action. Did ISP ever see Carnival /PanAm 722's there?

Oh yes they certianly did have PA 722s there. I recall seeing them rather often as well as Carnival's 722s

NLovis · 2010-01-16, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by hiss srq

You CAN fit MD-80's in there. AA used to do it all the time. Spirit flew them there. USAir occasionally subbed one there and SunJet I think used to serve ISP with them as well. In fact, I flew on a few Spirit ones to RSW in the late 90's to RSW.

Nice. I actually have some really old photo's of some of this stuff.

**hiss srq** · 2010-01-16, 12:39 AM

Do post sir. I would love to see that stuff. Nothing like old 90's LCC jets and colors. :borat:

NLovis · 2010-01-16, 01:51 AM

Not taling about them. The oldest ones I have are post 9/11 U.S. Air shots my father took for me upon request. I have to scan them in order to get them up.

**hiss srq** · 2010-01-16, 02:16 AM

None the less do post. As a former USAirways guy I always enjoy a good trip back down memory lane.

NLovis · 2010-01-16, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by hiss srq

None the less do post. As a former USAirways guy I always enjoy a good trip back down memory lane.

Thats going to take awhile. Till then enjoy these I shot in 05 or 06 that I lost the disposable and found in october. Quality is really poor due to the film sitting undevelped for so long. But there catches nether the less.