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    Quote Originally Posted by hiss srq
    Not to stoke the anti WN fire vs Tom fire but I think that is more a result of the fact that at the time it was the only fish hook WN could slip their bait on in the area. I will admit they and FL have some balls going agains carriers like US in the northeast in certain cites.
    Ryan at the time WN was still following thier model of serving secondary city airports and not airports like JFK and LGA. As for going up against carriers like US, WN forced US from BWI, is larger then US in LAS and most other cities in the west. WN has a war chest that could destroy US and many other airlines. The latest coming from the Dallas is JFK may be coming online.

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    I will have to strongly disagree when someone says that WN does not have a monopoly at ISP. Atleast 90 (guess) percent of the passenger's passing through MacArthur Airport are traveling on Southwest. They operate the most flights, serve the most destinations, and as I just said, attract the most passengers. Therefore, Southwest Airlines has a very strong monopoly in Islip. I have read that the administration at MacArthur Airport is trying to lure airlines like FL and B6, which is why I started this topic. An airline like FL is necessary to keep a balance of power at ISP, or else the whole airport could collapse with an unexpected (and unlikely) pullout of Southwest Airlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlueAirwaysFan
    I will have to strongly disagree when someone says that WN does not have a monopoly at ISP. Atleast 90 (guess) percent of the passenger's passing through MacArthur Airport are traveling on Southwest. They operate the most flights, serve the most destinations, and as I just said, attract the most passengers. Therefore, Southwest Airlines has a very strong monopoly in Islip. I have read that the administration at MacArthur Airport is trying to lure airlines like FL and B6, which is why I started this topic. An airline like FL is necessary to keep a balance of power at ISP, or else the whole airport could collapse with an unexpected (and unlikely) pullout of Southwest Airlines.
    Under no circumstances is WN a Monopoly....any airline is more then free to start up at ISP. The fact is other airlines know they can't compete with WN. B6 would have to setup a decent route network out of ISP since its main hub is only 40 miles.

    I don't think the O&D traffic B6 could generate would be able to stand up to the pounding WN would give them. Perhaps AirTran could do some ATL flights but otherwise ISP isn't going to see any major expansion other then WN. I see nothing wrong with WN's large scale operation at ISP, ISP hasn't had this much service and options in years. Oh WN won't be going anywhere anytime soon. They have 25 year lease and over 100 million invested in ISP.

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    I think that FL could do more than ATL. They may tap into Florida, CAK, PHF??
    Even if FL went into the ISP-MDW market, they could do well, depending on how people prefer to travel and on what kind of ammenities they expect out of an airline.
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    I definitely think Soutwest has a monopoly out at Islip and they are in need of some competition. But I believe that the big airlines like Delta & American etc are partially to blame because they never took the effort to invest in that location like Southwest did. We blamed the big guys for not servicing Long Island then point the finger at Southwest for having a monopoly and pushing them out.

    Personally I can't stand Southwest and refuse to fly them after one experience. The flights and aircraft were OK on the way to Mardi Gras with lots of beed throwing. However, the whole herd mentality and basically a lottery system for seating had me so ticked off I swore never again. Not to mention they discriminate if you are a "Customer of Size".

    I've flown dozens of times out of Islip with countless trips to Florida on American and Spirit. I always liked flying the Delta Regional Jets out of Islip and would rate them as my favorite airline pout of McCarthur. They are still quite competitive with Southwest when it comes to airfare, usually within 20 bucks more or less. I would like to see Airtran or Jet Blue start to work their way in as I they are probably the only ones that could compete with Southwest's business model.
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