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Well, I was there that day that we were under the landing lights, and there were 2 police cars sitting RIGHT there while we were doing it, they saw us. THEY LEFT US ALONE, didn't even come over and say anything.
I'm sorry if you feel offended by that, but the fact is Phil is right! The public does not find 3 15 year old boys any where near as threatening as adults, sorry to tell you, but it's true.
But I will also tell you, there were several other people at Cargo Plaza on the days we were there (not spotters), they didn't care, there was actually a Police officer WALKING HIS DOG THROUGH THE LANDING LIGHTS, so apparently he doesn't feel it's a big deal either...
Now, i'm not saying I am taking advantage of this, but the police didn't seem to mind at all, so it was a moot point, those pictures have NOTHING to do with your run-in.
Yes you are taking advantage. You obvioulsy don't understand how sensitive an area this is and your actions are clear proof of this. The Cargo area is not really the place to camp out in a big group on the grassy area and near the lights. Yet you seemed to think this was the case. Once again I never said the pictures had anything to do with my run in but continued behavior like yours and the people you were spotting with could jeapordize this area. Just use a lilttle common sense. Your age means nothing. Also it's not the PA you have to worry about. If AI, or the people at the taxi stand or the pilots landing in front of you make it an issue the PA will have to act. Try to see the big picture about this and not just your needs as a spotter.
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when I say a 15 year old, I mean someone who is noticeably younger compared to other adults. You're taking it too literally by mentioning the 19 year olds. You should know what I mean, as anyone else would, and if you don't, then that's unfortunate and it explains why you have a lot of misunderstandings here.
No Phil it's because your comments are always very general and in the middle. What are you trying to say? So if someone noticeably younger than an adult is doing something it's ok? If these so called 15 year olds went over to the fence behind 13L and climbed up it would it be ok? I think this age argument is totally useless here.
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No, that's what I'm saying. You think going near the landing lights is wrong, yet going to the parking lot altogether isn't much better. I was saying that we have (or DON'T have) as much of a right to be in either place.
It's just my opinion, as I think many others would share, that the people who tend to call cops on spotters would be less likely to do so when seeing someone that looks like a 15 year old doing it. I also think a police officer would find it less suspicious as well.
I'm not saying it's ok, I just don't think it's damaging.
Your absolutely right. We don't have a right to be there. So why would anyone (including a 15 year old kid) take that liberty? You can't get into someone's mind and assume how someone will perceive something. I think everyone including our 15 year old spotters should behave the same. You seem to be using this age thing as a free pass and I don't see it.