Complicated KLM/NWA Schedule For New York
This is quite long and a tad bit complicated so I will quote it directly from the source I read it from.
We all know KLM though, I'm sure this is subject to change at some point or another.
Good news is we get another chance to catch the Northwest A330-300 and KLM MD-11 at EWR and there is a high chance at some point next summer that we will see the 777-300ER on KL64/644 next summer.
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KLM and Northwest will gradually increase their offerings on the busy Amsterdam to New York route with the addition of one extra flight to JFK and EWR each. The increase will take place in phases and will start with the opening of a third daily JFK rotation with the onset of the winter schedule. This flight will be operated by NW with B752. Starting summer 2008, the airlines will then further increase frequencies with the addition of a second daily EWR rotation, also operated by NW's B752. As such, the entire frequency increase will come on account of NW.
Here are the details:
AMS EWR
Current flight:
now until 02DEC KL657/658 daily with A332
03DEC-05JAN KL657/658 daily with MD11
06JAN-15MAR NW063/064 daily with A333
16MAR-29MAR KL657/658 daily with MD11
from 30MAR NW063/064 daily with B752
NW is temporarily taking over the AMS EWR route from KL during the winter schedule because of scheduled maintenance operations with the KLM widebody fleet. Between 06 January and 15 March, NW will not operate its thirds daily AMS MSP rotation and that equipment will be dedicated to the AMS EWR route. The freed up MD11 capacity will move to the AMS IAD route, where the MD11 will replace the B772. The B772 will subsequently replace the B744 on the AMS YYZ route, so as to free up B744 capacity for scheduled D checks.
Additional flight:
from 08APR NW065/066 daily with B752
AMS JFK
Current flight:
now until 13OCT KL641/642 daily with A332
14OCT-27OCT KL641/642 daily with B772
28OCT-29MAR KL641/642 daily with A332
30MAR-03MAY KL641/642 daily with MD11
from 04MAY KL641/642 daily with A332
now until 29MAR KL643/644 daily with B772/B74E/B744
from 30MAR KL643/644 daily with B772/B77W/B74E
Additional flight:
28OCT-29MAR NW061/062 daily with B752
from 30MAR KL645/646 daily with A332
After all the above mentioned increase will have taken place, KLM and Northwest will, next summer operate 5 daily New York rotations from their AMS hub. These flights will be scheduled in each of KLM's longhaul departure banks. Northwest will be uniquely responsible for the EWR station, whereas KLM will take care of the JFK flights. Here are the exact schedules for next summer:
KL645 AMS JFK 0815 1030 daily A332
KL646 JFK AMS 1620 0600
NW063 AMS EWR 1015 1240 daily B752
NW064 EWR AMS 1645 0610
KL641 AMS JFK 1330 1545 daily A332
KL642 JFK AMS 1740 0720
NW065 AMS EWR 1530 1755 daily B752
NW066 EWR AMS 2015 0940
KL643 AMS JFK 1820 2015 daily EQV (B74E/B772/B77W)
KL644 JFK AMS 2210 1115
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will there be a test on all that?
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..... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Whoever wrote this deserves an award for confusing the heck out of me...
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All I can say is, I'd hate to buy what I think is a ticket on a KLM widebody and end up on an NW 757. The only 757 I want to fly on to Europe belongs to Eos...
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Originally Posted by nwafan20
..... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Whoever wrote this deserves an award for confusing the heck out of me...
But is it really that hard to do that??? :twisted: :lol:
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Originally Posted by Nonstop2AUH
The only 757 I want to fly on to Europe belongs to Eos...
From what I hear L'Avion to Paris is pretty nice as well
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I am about to blow my brains out on the wall because that hurt me head sooo much thinking about that...
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Looking forward to the opportunity to get KL MD-11 in JFK next spring; and a winglet equipped NW 757 is also worth a shot.
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A little update...
3rd daily flight to JFK has been canceled and KLM might keep EWR rather then having 2xdaily Northwest 757-200s.
:roll:
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Here is what is showing in Apollo/Galileo for summer.
KL 6064 S M T W T F S 29MAR-24OCT EWRAMS 445P 610A
KL 642 S M T W T F S 30MAR-24OCT JFKAMS 545P 715A
KL 6066 S M T W T F S 07APR-24OCT EWRAMS 815P 940A
KL 644 T W T 20JUL-14SEP JFKAMS 955P 1120A
KL 644 S 19JUL-13SEP JFKAMS 955P 1120A
KL 644 T W T S 01APR-12JUL JFKAMS 955P 1120A
KL 644 T W T 15JUL-19JUL JFKAMS 955P 1120A
KL 644 S M F 14JUL-14SEP JFKAMS 1005P 1135A
KL 644 S M F 30MAR-13JUL JFKAMS 1005P 1135A
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Now I understand better why the primary job criteria for a travel agent is knowledge of a CRS!
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Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600
...KLM might keep EWR rather then having 2xdaily Northwest 757-200s. :roll:
I've never flown NW or KLM, but if I were Dutch and booked a flight on KLM, something tells me I would be pretty pissed to end up boarding a crappy American carrier's craptastic narrowbody for an 8 hour flight.
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Originally Posted by markg
KL 6064 S M T W T F S 29MAR-24OCT EWRAMS 445P 610A
KL 6066 S M T W T F S 07APR-24OCT EWRAMS 815P 940A
Those two flights are Northwest flight numbers.
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Originally Posted by Nonstop2AUH
Now I understand better why the primary job criteria for a travel agent is knowledge of a CRS!
Not any more! Most systems now have a GUI interface which allows you just to "oint and click" but I find it quicker and easier to use the "native" formats!
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Its not complicated at all Gordan... There's only one line we all should care about....
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30MAR-03MAY KL641/642 daily with MD11
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Originally Posted by T-Bird76
Its not complicated at all Gordan... There's only one line we all should care about....
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30MAR-03MAY KL641/642 daily with MD11
Comon' Tommy, that thing was a daily arrival at EWR for a few months this year so whats so special about that?? I know you would have had to venture across the river and all but come on! :wink:
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Originally Posted by T-Bird76
Its not complicated at all Gordan... There's only one line we all should care about....
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30MAR-03MAY KL641/642 daily with MD11
TRU!
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Originally Posted by njgtr82
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Originally Posted by T-Bird76
Its not complicated at all Gordan... There's only one line we all should care about....
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30MAR-03MAY KL641/642 daily with MD11
Comon' Tommy, that thing was a daily arrival at EWR for a few months this year so whats so special about that?? I know you would have had to venture across the river and all but come on! :wink:
DOUBLE TRU!
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Well, I agree with T-Bird 76, the major difference is that you can easily get the KL MD-11 at JFK without risking being chased off at EWR.
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Originally Posted by njgtr82
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Originally Posted by T-Bird76
Its not complicated at all Gordan... There's only one line we all should care about....
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30MAR-03MAY KL641/642 daily with MD11
Comon' Tommy, that thing was a daily arrival at EWR for a few months this year so whats so special about that?? I know you would have had to venture across the river and all but come on! :wink:
I don't pay tolls to go spotting, LOLOL ;) Its cooler at JFK anyway! :P
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KLM switched to the MD-11 at EWR today
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How long is it supposed to be on the EWR route again. I'll be back up north for Xmas in a few days. WHen tio flew into JFK a few years abck They pulled it off the route just as they painted the first MD-11 into the new colors this making me screwed :(
Senga
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Originally Posted by SengaB
How long is it supposed to be on the EWR route again. I'll be back up north for Xmas in a few days. WHen tio flew into JFK a few years abck They pulled it off the route just as they painted the first MD-11 into the new colors this making me screwed :(
Senga
Til Jan 5th
