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Derf
01-23-2013, 06:57 AM
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/photos/i-VSfQNLC/0/X3/i-VSfQNLC-X3.jpg



Link to last years event
http://nycaviation.com/forum/threads/42399-History-Under-the-stars-2012-NY-Airshow-Night-Photography-Event?highlight=history+stars

would love to see some shots from last year if handy

Derf
01-23-2013, 06:59 AM
Click Here for the Teaser (http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Videos-Aviation/13759895_rBTrNK#!i=1714016801&k=82bz4gc&lb=1&s=A)

Zee71
01-23-2013, 10:03 AM
Looking forward to this great event as well as seeing everyone. Thanks Fred!

Derf
01-24-2013, 10:20 PM
Some of my shots from last year, do you have any to share?

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2012-Jones-Beach-Airshow/i-v7cq7Ct/0/L/IMG_7548-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2012-Jones-Beach-Airshow/i-kj8MPTh/0/L/IMG_2950-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2012-Jones-Beach-Airshow/i-FtZ3PDf/0/L/IMG_7617-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2012-Jones-Beach-Airshow/i-bpC8Kvz/0/L/IMG_7668-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2012-Jones-Beach-Airshow/i-sfZWXPV/1/L/IMG_0689-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2012-Jones-Beach-Airshow/i-bfJGvTw/0/L/Dazzlin Deb-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2012-Jones-Beach-Airshow/i-8JkQGZ2/1/L/IMG_0785-L.jpg

moose135
01-24-2013, 11:46 PM
That Mustang photo is sublime, Fred!

gonzalu
01-25-2013, 12:26 AM
I only wish mine were nearly as good as yours!!

But anyways, here are a couple of my decent ones.

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/History-Under-The-Stars-2012/i-zcfsQQB/0/L/D80_9046_7_tonemapped-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/History-Under-The-Stars-2012/i-GBSTrRf/0/L/D80_9018_19_20_800_C-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/History-Under-The-Stars-2012/i-nwqvR9j/0/L/D80_9086_7_8_tonemapped-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/History-Under-The-Stars-2012/i-8g3ZW6g/0/L/D80_9089_90_91_93_tonemapped-L.jpg

Technically not dark yet, but, this was captured thanks to your event! :-)

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/History-Under-The-Stars-2012/i-MfMVmTf/0/L/D80_8896_800_BW-L.jpg

Derf
01-25-2013, 03:18 PM
That last shot is great!

lijk604
01-26-2013, 06:59 PM
Guys....good luck to all who enter. This is truly a great event if you can make it.
This year, I will not be able to, work has me tied up for the entire air show week.

Derf
01-29-2013, 10:52 AM
From two years ago
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Airshow-2011/i-Q6rxwtp/0/L/chris-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Airshow-2011/i-6RCKPV2/0/L/IMG_6505_6_7-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Airshow-2011/i-M3V3FZX/0/L/IMG_8442-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Airshow-2011/i-rs7Mdbm/0/L/IMG_4820-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Airshow-2011/i-HgtcpPd/0/L/IMG_9990-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Airshow-2011/i-dDbn4gX/0/L/IMG_2688-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Airshow-2011/i-8KqcjMK/0/L/IMG_8404-L.jpg

Zee71
01-29-2013, 10:59 AM
Great stuff Fred!!!

Some from me:

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Air-Shows/Jones-Beach-2012/i-DtJkWM7/0/L/Stars_10_FRG_26May2012-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Air-Shows/Jones-Beach-2012/i-TV9Lk3T/0/L/Stars_08_FRG_26May2012-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Air-Shows/Jones-Beach-2012/i-KN6Lb2v/0/L/Stars_05_FRG_26May2012-L.jpg

Roush6NY
01-29-2013, 03:29 PM
Beautiful stuff guys ...

steve1840
02-02-2013, 05:07 PM
2012 was my first HUTS, and what an opportunity it was. Couldn't have asked for a better time. Big thanks to Fred and the American Airpower Museum for making the event possible!

Here are some of my shots from HUTS

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-wLmTfrT/3/L/IMG_0526-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/23301989_MSWdzp#!i=1880477558&k=wLmTfrT&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-2mWDBmN/3/L/IMG_0614-1-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/23301989_MSWdzp#!i=1880481913&k=2mWDBmN&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-XJXMzr2/3/L/IMG_0627-1-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/23301989_MSWdzp#!i=1880482437&k=XJXMzr2&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-bwGWxjQ/3/L/IMG_0610-1-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/23301989_MSWdzp#!i=1880481857&k=bwGWxjQ&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-Z7bJwDn/3/L/IMG_0747-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/23301989_MSWdzp#!i=1880576240&k=Z7bJwDn&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-2gj3pQb/2/L/IMG_0559-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/23301989_MSWdzp#!i=1881420429&k=2gj3pQb&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-PpSFPLb/3/L/IMG_0658-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Airshows-2012/NY-Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/23301989_MSWdzp#!i=1880484608&k=PpSFPLb&lb=1&s=A)

Zee71
02-02-2013, 10:46 PM
The B-17 shots are sweet Steve!

Derf
02-03-2013, 12:49 PM
Nice set Steve

steve1840
02-03-2013, 02:25 PM
Thanks Mark and Fred

GrummanFan
02-03-2013, 09:51 PM
http://dfalk.smugmug.com/Airplanes/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-6scz2tZ/0/XL/jacky_2-XL.jpg

http://dfalk.smugmug.com/Airplanes/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-bSdtbTV/0/XL/hellcat_2-XL.jpg

http://dfalk.smugmug.com/Airplanes/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-6vHgWrZ/0/XL/c47_1-XL.jpg

http://dfalk.smugmug.com/Airplanes/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2012/i-jBvW9Qm/0/XL/prowler_3-XL.jpg

When I'm able to attend, it's always the highlight of air show weekend. Nowhere else do I get the chance to enjoy my love for airplanes, night shots, and caffeine all in one convenient location.

Greg_NY
02-03-2013, 10:29 PM
Here are some of my shots from last year. This is such a great opportunity to shot these iconic planes. Thanks to Fred for organizing this...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/gregatdis/HUTS/HUTS_2012_P51D_800_zpsfdd2ec59.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/gregatdis/HUTS/IMG_5805_800_zps63e41dd6.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/gregatdis/HUTS/IMG_5797_2_800_zpse164bc28.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/gregatdis/HUTS/HUTS_2012_Rhino_800_zpsa868144e.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/gregatdis/HUTS/HUTS_2012_B-17G_800_zps3e55749e.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/gregatdis/HUTS/HUTS_2012_Flyover_800_zps60c91954.jpg

Derf
02-04-2013, 08:09 AM
Great shots guys, lovin the pics

gonzalu
02-06-2013, 09:34 PM
http://pcdn.500px.net/25274617/b4439c15ef7fd495cfc3d3612936b8eb1377a56e/4.jpg

lijk604
02-07-2013, 08:54 AM
Not happy I'll be missing it this year!

http://www.jklosphotography.com/Airplanes/Memorial-Day-Weekend-2012/i-HVVm37J/0/L/N119H_FRG_052612-3-L.jpg

http://www.jklosphotography.com/Airplanes/Memorial-Day-Weekend-2012/i-dqpD8hH/0/L/114143_FRG_052612-2-L.jpg

http://www.jklosphotography.com/Airplanes/Memorial-Day-Weekend-2012/i-TJ6ss3c/0/L/N15SJ_FRG_052612-L.jpg

http://www.jklosphotography.com/Airplanes/Memorial-Day-Weekend-2012/i-B63BSHC/0/L/N119H_FRG_052612-5-L.jpg

kps9999
02-15-2013, 05:36 PM
Here's a couple of mine

Karl

http://www.pbase.com/kps9999/image/143624266.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/kps9999/image/143624260.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/kps9999/image/143624256.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/kps9999/image/143624236.jpg

moose135
02-15-2013, 07:56 PM
Some of my photos from the past few years of HUTS

http://www.moose135photography.com/American-Airpower-Museum/History-Under-the-Stars/History-Under-The-Stars-2007/i-gKtjV6D/2/XL/JM_2007_05_26_B-25_N2825B_002-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/American-Airpower-Museum/History-Under-the-Stars/History-Under-the-Stars-2009/i-WFhs55s/1/XL/JM_2009_05_23_N751RB_004-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/American-Airpower-Museum/History-Under-the-Stars/History-Under-The-Stars-2010/i-b3F8DXQ/0/XL/JM_2010_05_29_HUTS_003-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/American-Airpower-Museum/History-Under-the-Stars/History-Under-The-Stars-2/i-L57qLL3/0/XL/JM_2011_05_25_N529B_004-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/American-Airpower-Museum/History-Under-the-Stars/History-Under-the-Stars-2012/i-7fJKFpg/0/XL/JM_2012_05_25_Jones_beach_001-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/American-Airpower-Museum/History-Under-the-Stars/History-Under-the-Stars-2008/i-S2wF3zr/3/XL/JM_2008_05_24_N4207W_001-XL.jpg

Zee71
02-15-2013, 10:13 PM
Moose.............killer shots! Hope all is well with you these days.

moose135
02-16-2013, 12:10 AM
Thanks, Mark! I'm doing well down here, and the boss already approved my vacation for air show week. See you in May!

steve1840
02-16-2013, 06:36 AM
Thanks, Mark! I'm doing well down here, and the boss already approved my vacation for air show week. See you in May!

That's awesome Moose! Looking forward to hanging out with ya again! I'll try to leave the rain at home this time.

dekdawg21
02-16-2013, 03:53 PM
Amazing night shot of FiFi!

Derf
02-16-2013, 04:33 PM
Nice Shots Guys.... I too love the Fifi shot, My feet do not.

Derf
04-10-2013, 07:44 PM
It is getting near the deadline time

Derf
04-29-2013, 06:48 PM
bump, ONE DAY LEFT!

wunaladreamin
04-29-2013, 07:48 PM
Get in on this guys, this is not just some boring set up a tripod and fire type of thing. This is in event where the field is almost completely dead quiet and the warbirds almost seem to whisper their history to you. Anyone who doesn't submit is truly missing out. HUTS is a can't miss.

Billbo1970
04-30-2013, 05:07 AM
I would love to submit, but photography is just a hobby for me & I am not published... I also have no experience with night shots, so don't have any to submit :(

Derf
04-30-2013, 06:07 AM
You can always take 3 night shots tonight and see what happens... you have to enter to be in it, aviation shots are good but if you shoot only daytime shots, any night shot may get you in this year. -Fred

Zee71
05-20-2013, 02:12 PM
Oh man............HUTS is closing in fast!!! Can't believe it's this weekend.......hopefully the weather cooperates. Also, althought it will be sad to not see the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds at this years Jones Beach airshow, I'm still looking forward to it, as well as seeing you all! Thanks again to Fred!

Danycam
05-20-2013, 07:36 PM
Does anybody know the event that goes on at the museum prior to the HUTS shoot on Sat night. Is that event open to the Public? I recall seeing an ad for it but can not seem to find it now. Museum site does not have it listed. If any one can post a link or any info it would be great. Thanks

Derf
05-20-2013, 07:59 PM
There is no event this year....the AAM will be open until 7PM

Danycam
05-20-2013, 08:24 PM
Thanks for the response. Do you know if there is going to be any golden hour fly over passes with any of the air show participants? I happen to catch a few last year from Dave & Busters lot but I believe that was event related.

Derf
05-20-2013, 09:06 PM
There is nothing planned but you never know what happens around there until it happens! :)

nikon50bigma
05-22-2013, 11:07 AM
Hey Everyone,
I'm just trying to field some more opinions on this:
Do you guys think the Nikon 18-200 & Tokina 12-24 are ok to use for an event like this?
Or do you guys think I should rent something a like the Nikon 24-70 F2.8 to replace the 18-200 for a night shoot (less flare and better sharpness but I'd still be shooting at F8)?
Last time I had a Tamron 24-70, but I have since sold it :-(

lijk604
05-22-2013, 05:11 PM
Tokina 12-24 is an awesome lens. For the statics, it can't be beat. If you want some reach or extra close up, get the longer zoom.

nikon50bigma
05-22-2013, 09:58 PM
Tokina 12-24 is an awesome lens. For the statics, it can't be beat. If you want some reach or extra close up, get the longer zoom.

Thanks!

Zee71
05-23-2013, 06:17 AM
I suggest a wide lens (14-24mm) and a zoom (70-300mm or 70-200mm) lens. Don't forget your tripod, flash and a shutter release cable or remote.

nikon50bigma
05-23-2013, 03:57 PM
I suggest a wide lens (14-24mm) and a zoom (70-300mm or 70-200mm) lens. Don't forget your tripod, flash and a shutter release cable or remote.

I think I'm gonna stick with the 12-24 and 70-300 for the night shooting. Thanks for the advice guys!

Zee71
05-24-2013, 07:08 AM
Sounds like a good combo to go with.

gonzalu
05-24-2013, 08:56 AM
Also worth knowing is your sensor's diffraction limits and stick with the sweet spot apertures. We must always make decisions based on creativity which puts us in bad quality land... but you should always try and stay within the sensor's limits for maximum sharpness. Long exposures are the truest test of a quality system and best technique. Here is a very technical and educational article on the subject :)

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm

dekdawg21
05-24-2013, 09:08 AM
Hey Everyone,
I'm just trying to field some more opinions on this:
Do you guys think the Nikon 18-200 & Tokina 12-24 are ok to use for an event like this?
Or do you guys think I should rent something a like the Nikon 24-70 F2.8 to replace the 18-200 for a night shoot (less flare and better sharpness but I'd still be shooting at F8)?
Last time I had a Tamron 24-70, but I have since sold it :-(

Where do you rent lenses from?

megatop412
05-24-2013, 12:21 PM
Also worth knowing is your sensor's diffraction limits and stick with the sweet spot apertures. We must always make decisions based on creativity which puts us in bad quality land... but you should always try and stay within the sensor's limits for maximum sharpness. Long exposures are the truest test of a quality system and best technique. Here is a very technical and educational article on the subject :)

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm

That was an excellent read, thanks Manny. Interesting to see that my crop body has a different limit than my full frame. My only question is that, I don't seem to recall discussions about diffraction when shooting film. Was there a film version of this phenomenon?

gonzalu
05-24-2013, 10:48 PM
That was an excellent read, thanks Manny. Interesting to see that my crop body has a different limit than my full frame. My only question is that, I don't seem to recall discussions about diffraction when shooting film. Was there a film version of this phenomenon?

Fortunately or unfortunately film was a chemical process, not a mathematical/mechanical one. There was no Bayer array, no demosaicing algorithms, no Photo Cells, no microlenses, etc. Film was much more chaotic in nature and each site could handle each color and they were micron sized "pixels" per se so it behaved a lot differently. Nevertheless, there was a limit, but probably extremely high given that the resolution of film was surpassed by 12MP sensors in my opinion.

gonzalu
05-24-2013, 10:50 PM
Where do you rent lenses from?

www.lensrentals.com/

www.borrowlenses.com/

;)

dekdawg21
05-24-2013, 11:13 PM
www.lensrentals.com/

www.borrowlenses.com/

;)

Thank you sir! I'm just getting started and rented from borrow lenses last year and they were good. Just didn't know if there was some place local that anyone knew of!

Billbo1970
05-25-2013, 05:20 AM
Thank you sir! I'm just getting started and rented from borrow lenses last year and they were good. Just didn't know if there was some place local that anyone knew of!

It would not be very ethical, but there is a local place called Best Buy.. LOL

Joe
05-25-2013, 05:40 AM
I believe either Berger Bros. or Cameta, both in Amityville rent lenses. One of them does, the one further away from the tracks. They advertise it on their site, or at least they used to. I have rented from Lens Rentals in the past before purchasing my 100 - 400, they had decent rates, much better than the local guys.

Big Tim #70
05-25-2013, 06:02 AM
Berger Bros has lens rental services available.

Fighting_falcon_51
05-25-2013, 06:54 AM
Airshow cancelled for today due to inclement weather.

Danycam
05-25-2013, 06:59 AM
:-( Thanks for the early update.

lijk604
05-25-2013, 07:41 AM
Re: Cameta and Berger Bros. They will rent you equipment, but they immediately put a hold on your charge card for the cost of the lens. They remove it when you return the lens. The on line sites do not do that.

Danycam
05-25-2013, 08:28 AM
Sunset @ 8:10p and Full Moon Rise @ 8:58.
I hope you get favorable Skies and dry weather for this evenings Event.
Cant wait to see those pictures Posted.

dekdawg21
05-25-2013, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the info guys!

Derf
05-25-2013, 03:22 PM
History Under the Stars cancelled for today due to inclement weather, forecasts show up to 50MPH Gusts. I am truly Sorry

Joe
05-25-2013, 03:39 PM
While that is very disappointing, it is beyond your control. I want to thank you very much for the efforts and for offering it to us to begin with, it is greatly appreciated!

wunaladreamin
05-25-2013, 04:31 PM
I second what Joe said. Fred you can't fight the wx and it seems determined to do what it can to kill this weekend. We appreciate the good company we've had over the week and really what matters is that and not planes. There's next year to look forward to!

Zee71
05-25-2013, 07:55 PM
Sorry to hear about the cancelation for all those attending. I am out on the north fork and the winds have been relentless all day. Enjoy the show tomorrow. Unfortunately I won't be able to attend tomorrows air show. Have a great time all.

gonzalu
05-27-2013, 12:56 PM
Fred, you are always a tireless advocate and representative for the Museum, the Night Event and all things AAM/Photography related. During the Jones BEach Airshow Weekend you literally pour your whole life into it for at least two solid weeks end to end (not to mention all the other work that builds up to it)

I can't imagine doing half of it myself for no other compensation than satisfaction. So, don't ever apologize and really, THANK YOU, even though it will never be enough to just say that. All I hope I can do is show appreciation at least through my photography at the event.

Cheers!

megatop412
05-27-2013, 08:04 PM
I have to second that, Fred- your enthusiasm for this is always impressive. I'm sorry it didn't work out this year- pictures from past years were amazing

wunaladreamin
05-27-2013, 08:08 PM
Fred, you are always a tireless advocate and representative for the Museum, the Night Event and all things AAM/Photography related. During the Jones BEach Airshow Weekend you literally pour your whole life into it for at least two solid weeks end to end (not to mention all the other work that builds up to it)

I can't imagine doing half of it myself for no other compensation than satisfaction. So, don't ever apologize and really, THANK YOU, even though it will never be enough to just say that. All I hope I can do is show appreciation at least through my photography at the event.

Cheers!
Could not have said it better Manny. Fred, without your endless dedication, I'm sure the AAM wouldn't get the draw they do, and the spotter community would most certainly suffer. I can honestly say that even though I've never really picked your brain per se, I've learned a lot from you by just watching and I wouldn't be half the photographer I am now had I not met you.

Zee71
05-27-2013, 09:55 PM
Well stated Manny! Fred ... we don't know how you do it, but you always seem to get it done. Juggling so many things before, during and after the events. We all are grateful to you and the passion you have for aviation and photography. I am always blown aways with the images you post. I too have learned from you as well, by watching and listening. Thanks Fred for all you do!

Billbo1970
05-28-2013, 08:24 AM
Well stated by all, Fred is an amazing guy!

Derf
05-28-2013, 12:57 PM
Thank You all for understanding and the nice comments -Fred

gonzalu
05-28-2013, 10:44 PM
Although one good way to get Fred frazzled during his cool-as-ice HUTS juggling, is to just bring in a Sherpa!! Fred's GONE!!! :tongue:

kps9999
05-29-2013, 06:36 PM
http://www.pbase.com/kps9999/image/114467195.jpg

Zee71
05-29-2013, 07:10 PM
It's Sherpa fever!
http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Airplanes-and-Spotting/Aviation-Photography/i-Xz3LP9L/0/L/SkyWay_01_FRG_28Oct2011_32-L.jpg