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Chris102
2012-12-15, 01:03 AM
Is there anyone here who uploads the same shots to both A.net and JP? Is there any benefit to doing this? I abandoned JP a while ago in favor of A.net, but I realized all my photo sales (the few that I've had) came from JP.

Any thoughts on uploading the same images to both sites?

moose135
2012-12-15, 02:02 AM
When I bother to upload, I will upload the same photos to both. Of course, since I'm limited to some ridiculously small number of slots on A.net, it takes longer to get them all rejected there. A.net pissed me off more frequently, so I'd go for months at a time uploading only to JP. I think the last stuff I uploaded to either was from the Jones Beach Air Show. A.net generates more hits, but I haven't really sold anything from either. A.net does generate many more requests for free photos, however...

PhilDernerJr
2012-12-15, 02:33 AM
That all depends on what you think that "advantages" are to having your photos on either site. What is your goal for uploading?

Kris V
2012-12-15, 05:19 AM
I sort of a "noob" on this, but I notice a trend that people tend to upload JP but then they start moving over to anet and saw on. I been wanting an explanation on why someone who rejects more...you give more of your time too?

Cary
2012-12-15, 06:41 AM
I sort of a "noob" on this, but I notice a trend that people tend to upload JP but then they start moving over to anet and saw on. I been wanting an explanation on why someone who rejects more...you give more of your time too?

A.net gets you more exposure than JP, if that's what you're into. The top photos of the day on JP will top out at around 4-5k views, while on A.net, you could get 10k, 15k, 20k, or even more in one day. I stopped uploading to JP when the queue times got ludicrous. Looks like they have it back under control now.

Kris V
2012-12-15, 04:51 PM
A.net gets you more exposure than JP, if that's what you're into. The top photos of the day on JP will top out at around 4-5k views, while on A.net, you could get 10k, 15k, 20k, or even more in one day. I stopped uploading to JP when the queue times got ludicrous. Looks like they have it back under control now.
That makes sense, and I checked JP Q line and now it 2977 at the moment. Thanks Cary for the explanation about that!

Kris V
2012-12-15, 04:52 PM
A.net gets you more exposure than JP, if that's what you're into. The top photos of the day on JP will top out at around 4-5k views, while on A.net, you could get 10k, 15k, 20k, or even more in one day. I stopped uploading to JP when the queue times got ludicrous. Looks like they have it back under control now.
That makes sense, and I checked JP Q line and now it 2977 at the moment. Thanks Cary for the explanation about that!

nssd70
2012-12-15, 05:04 PM
I uploaded some shots to Jetphotos two days ago,and they are already screened. I upload some photos to both sites,but mainly I upload different ones to each site.

Doug

Just_Lucas
2012-12-15, 07:49 PM
I heard that its easier to get photos on To Jet photos,But airliners is More..Well known then jet photos i think But its really up to you I just dont get why Airliners take a week or two to reject a photo..Thats the only thing that annoys me.

Chris102
2012-12-15, 08:34 PM
That all depends on what you think that "advantages" are to having your photos on either site. What is your goal for uploading?

Just trying to get my photos noticed. It would be great to sell more, but I'm more interested in establishing myself right now.

Chris102
2012-12-15, 08:38 PM
A.net does generate many more requests for free photos, however...

I've noticed that happening, too. Usually if I get a free request from the owner or pilot of the plane I'll give it to them, but not anyone else. Recently, some guy wanted to put one of my photos in a brochure to be distributed internationally--and offered only $50 for full rights!

Chris102
2012-12-20, 09:00 PM
Quick question--when JP rejects a photo that is already on A.net, is it OK to appeal?

wunaladreamin
2012-12-20, 09:25 PM
Quick question--when JP rejects a photo that is already on A.net, is it OK to appeal?

I do. I put in the reason box "It was accepted at a.nother site."

Chris102
2012-12-21, 01:36 PM
Thanks, I'll give it a shot!

moose135
2012-12-21, 01:58 PM
I do. I put in the reason box "It was accepted at a.nother site."
Does that get them accepted, or get you a ban from uploading for a few weeks... ;-)

gonzalu
2012-12-21, 02:12 PM
Quick question--when JP rejects a photo that is already on A.net, is it OK to appeal?

ROTFL ... I hope you're kidding.

There are times that screeners from JP.net and A.nnet are like blood enemies. Suggesting that is sure to get you reprimanded publicly, or worse; banned!

I say if you do upload to both the same shot, which is perfectly OK, treat them as ships in the night... don;t mix the two screenings at all :-) You'd be surprised what one accepts and the other rejects and vice versa!

wunaladreamin
2012-12-21, 03:43 PM
Does that get them accepted, or get you a ban from uploading for a few weeks... ;-)
I've yet to have an issue.

Chris102
2012-12-21, 04:42 PM
Appealed before I saw the rest of the comments--got my ass handed to me!

jerslice
2012-12-21, 05:32 PM
I don't really upload to either anymore (flickr & airplane-pictures.net for me), but when I did have the situation you've described appealing to jp.net saying a.net accepted it usually won the day. With a.net it seemed to follow with 5 additional senseless rejections.

Chris102
2012-12-21, 08:00 PM
I don't really upload to either anymore (flickr & airplane-pictures.net for me), but when I did have the situation you've described appealing to jp.net saying a.net accepted it usually won the day. With a.net it seemed to follow with 5 additional senseless rejections.

I actually emailed the screener back because I was a little pissed at his attitude. I got a sassy reply back, which I'll have to post.

I'm thinking about starting to put my photos on my Flickr page and forgetting about both sites. It takes forever for me to get my pictures on A.net--I'd say only about 20-30% of my A.net uploads get on the site the first time I submit it.

Chris102
2012-12-21, 08:02 PM
Screener: "Histogram CLEARLY shows the underexposure. Couldn\'t care less what airliners do ! It means nothing here, they don\'t always get it right."

Me: "OK--no need to be so arrogant about it. If the site is going to be like that, I'll have to consider not uploading to JP anymore."

Screener: "You call me arrogant yet on every one of your appeals, I think there were 5 you rubbed our noses in the fact that airliners had accepted your pictures despite our rejections being very clearly proven.
If airliners are so wonderful then you are welcome to stay with them. If you don't want to upload here on the largest aviation database in the world then that is of course your prerogative. This appeal was one of the last ones that I dealt with and I had simply become fed up with constantly having airliners rammed down my throat as if an acceptance there means that we are duty bound to accept here.
It doesn't work like that.
Merry Christmas.

Brian Whitelegg.
Senior screener."

Chris102
2012-12-21, 08:05 PM
ROTFL ... I hope you're kidding.

There are times that screeners from JP.net and A.nnet are like blood enemies. Suggesting that is sure to get you reprimanded publicly, or worse; banned!

I say if you do upload to both the same shot, which is perfectly OK, treat them as ships in the night... don;t mix the two screenings at all :-) You'd be surprised what one accepts and the other rejects and vice versa!

I haven't been banned, but I'll have to keep an eye out to see if they're going after me publicly!

lijk604
2012-12-21, 10:39 PM
Chris, your work is well enough to be showcased. I haven't uploaded to either site now in over 18 months. Too much hassle for too little reward.
Put your shots on Flickr, and make sure you KEYWORD them. They will show up better on search engines if you do.

jerslice
2012-12-21, 11:15 PM
Too much hassle for too little reward.
Bingo. At some point I decided that my photos should reflect my style of shooting, not theirs. It was a great help to learn how to edit. But once that had been established...all flickr :-)

Chris102
2012-12-23, 06:23 PM
Chris, your work is well enough to be showcased. I haven't uploaded to either site now in over 18 months. Too much hassle for too little reward.
Put your shots on Flickr, and make sure you KEYWORD them. They will show up better on search engines if you do.

Thanks for the nice words about my photos, John. Your shots are always beautiful, and I appreciate your encouragement.

I'll have to start the process of moving my photos over to Flickr this week. It does seem that the hassle of A.Net and JP is just too much for too little reward.

Chris102
2012-12-23, 06:24 PM
Got another unsolicited sassy email from a different JP screener today:


Dear Mr Dolan,

I am sorry that our screening process is not matching the one of airliners.net (http://airliners.net/). It seems that you are more satisfied with the service of airliners.net (http://airliners.net/). To avoid future trouble I would recommend limiting your up-loads to airliners.net (http://airliners.net/) and stop up-loading tojetphotos.net (http://jetphotos.net/). This would save valuable time for all involved parties.


I wish you and your family all the best this holiday season, with hopes for a healthy and prosperous 2013!

Best regards

Stefan Kuhn - seahawk

nssd70
2012-12-23, 06:47 PM
I use Flickr for the majority of my photos,but I like uploading to Jetphotos and Airliners. i just don't get too worked up if either one rejects them. I had one that Jetphotos accepted,but Airliners rejected it because the Flag was blocking a portion of the wing.

Doug

moose135
2012-12-23, 06:53 PM
Chris, I would upload a couple to JP.net just to see how they react.

gonzalu
2012-12-23, 11:22 PM
Got another unsolicited sassy email from a different JP screener today:

Exactly what I was trying to tell you... DO NOT mix the two. If someone else gets away with it, great. I would just treat them independently when it comes to screening and their respective criteria ..

I upload the same pics to both. Sometimes they both accept them. Sometimes one accepts one the other will not. That's life :-)

Don;t get me wrong, I appeal and argue my points with each of them but never do I claim they need to accept them because the other site did already... that I think would make anyone a bit uncomfortable. Imagine you're a cop on the beat. You stop a guy for not wearing his seat-belt. You are about to tag him and he says, come on, your partner a few miles away let me go, you should do the same :P