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Matt Molnar
2012-09-17, 11:05 PM
Air Force One will land at JFK on Tuesday 9/18 as President Obama returns to New York for a fundraising event.

Based on the TFR (http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_4522.html), arrival can be expected sometime between 2:30pm and 3:30pm. Departure will be around 11:30pm.

Rain and storms will be a threat all day Tuesday. The worst conditions are expected in the morning and evening so it's possible that photogs may catch a break, but clouds will likely be overhead all day.

http://www.nycaviation.com/newspage/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/sect_2_4522.gif

MSN007
2012-09-18, 10:59 AM
So far it seems everything is landing on 22L. If conditions continue AF1 is guaranteed today.

gonzalu
2012-09-18, 11:01 AM
Do NOT expect AF1 on 22s or antyhing other than 31L no matter what's going on other than a RWY closure for construction or otherwise. Only time I saw SAM29000 on 22L was, well, as SAM29000 last year as it returned from SWF to pick up the prez :tongue:

Matt Molnar
2012-09-18, 12:58 PM
ETA 310 pm according to White House schedule. Departing at 1105 pm.

Chris S
2012-09-18, 03:24 PM
AF1 cleared to land 22L

Mateo
2012-09-18, 03:24 PM
Just cleared for 22L. Wind was 190@27.

Chris beat me to the board! Anyone know if he's still being flown Downtown? Winds are nasty.

MSN007
2012-09-18, 03:32 PM
Just landed with William and Erick.

eric8669
2012-09-18, 04:28 PM
22L arrival a rare treat.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_5187.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_5197.jpg

gonzalu
2012-09-18, 05:03 PM
I think he used the Beast today... winds are kicking arse up here ... .

Gerard
2012-09-18, 06:11 PM
Anyone know if he's still being flown Downtown? Winds are nasty.

Yes I believe Marine 1 was used.

Gerard
2012-09-18, 06:12 PM
Do NOT expect AF1 on 22s or antyhing other than 31L :tongue:

Uh ooops!!!! LOL!!!

Matt Molnar
2012-09-18, 06:22 PM
Yes I believe Marine 1 was used.
I thought for sure they were going to motorcade it, until the two Sea Knights buzzed my neighborhood. Didn't see Marine One but it usually approaches from the opposite direction, out of my line of view at the time. Also saw what an unmarked helicopter that I'm guessing was NYPD's Bell 412 "terror chopper" getting tossed around over the East River while keeping an eye over the VIP arrivals. Usually they use an Agusta but the heavier chopper was probably slightly more flyable in today's conditions.

PhilDernerJr
2012-09-18, 06:26 PM
N412PD is out of service since the crash so the only active Bell they have is N414PD, but that's painted. Was likely a fed chopper then.

Artie
2012-09-18, 06:26 PM
Nice Shots of AF1 - I was at Costco and had a 200MM not a good lens choice for the day and the distance away from the aircraft. M
y first sighting of AF1

Cary
2012-09-18, 06:29 PM
Uh ooops!!!! LOL!!!

Manny will do anything to make sure his fellow spotters miss the shot! Like the time we were at the Mounds, and he thought it would be best to drive and park us in some random neighborhood, while Arik Air went by where we just were in perfect late afternoon light. :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :mad: :tongue:

moose135
2012-09-18, 06:29 PM
Uh ooops!!!! LOL!!!
27 knots of cross-wind is one of those rare occasions when they do something other than 31L.

eric8669
2012-09-18, 06:31 PM
Nice Shots of AF1 - I was at Costco and had a 200MM not a good lens choice for the day and the distance away from the aircraft. M
y first sighting of AF1

Thanks. I was at Costco too waiting to hear the runway assignment. As soon as I heard AF1 call in for 22L I bolted for the mounds.

Mateo
2012-09-18, 06:43 PM
They did indeed fly to JRB, although the approach was a little different than usual.

The 412 was 23FH, the unmarked NYPD helo.

megatop412
2012-09-18, 06:45 PM
That pilot would have had some big-a** balls to try and shoot 31L today, but I won't lie for a few minutes we were worried he was going to try it

Matt Molnar
2012-09-18, 08:04 PM
N412PD is out of service since the crash so the only active Bell they have is N414PD, but that's painted. Was likely a fed chopper then.
WE KNOW TOO MUCH. ABORT ABORT.

Gerard
2012-09-18, 08:28 PM
WE KNOW TOO MUCH. ABORT ABORT.

Actually they replaced Aviation 12 with Aviation 22 and they also have Aviation 23 (N23FH) the "unmarked" Bell 412 like Mateo wrote..
And its no secret, LOL!!
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/28/first-look-new-high-tech-nypd-helicopter-takes-the-fight-to-the-terrorists/

Cal07
2012-09-18, 08:32 PM
Eric nice pics. AF1 stands out in any lighting condition...

NickPeterman
2012-09-18, 09:25 PM
Manny will do anything to make sure his fellow spotters miss the shot! Like the time we were at the Mounds, and he thought it would be best to drive and park us in some random neighborhood, while Arik Air went by where we just were in perfect late afternoon light. :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :mad: :tongue:


Uh oh manny! Am I sure I want you to be my guide next time I am at JFK... (December it looks like)

Gerard
2012-09-18, 09:27 PM
I thought for sure they were going to motorcade it, until the two Sea Knights buzzed my neighborhood. Didn't see Marine One but it usually approaches from the opposite direction, out of my line of view at the time. Also saw what an unmarked helicopter that I'm guessing was NYPD's Bell 412 "terror chopper" getting tossed around over the East River while keeping an eye over the VIP arrivals. Usually they use an Agusta but the heavier chopper was probably slightly more flyable in today's conditions.

Wonder what they will be doing when its time to leave!!? Weather pretty bad!! NYPD getting the "blocker" cars ready for the Belt route? :eek:

Gerard
2012-09-18, 10:00 PM
22s passing by/over/near my house here in Eastern Nassau. And NWS has tornado warning for SW Suffolk.

gonzalu
2012-09-18, 10:12 PM
Manny will do anything to make sure his fellow spotters miss the shot! Like the time we were at the Mounds, and he thought it would be best to drive and park us in some random neighborhood, while Arik Air went by where we just were in perfect late afternoon light. :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :mad: :tongue:


Technically, it wasn't even a random neighborhood. I parked your ass right in the middle between 22 and 13 on 147th and Guy R. Brewer Blvd. :tongue: MAJOR fail that day. I still feel guilty about it, even if I [also] missed the opportunity. Cary, don't ever trust a Cuban! ROTFL!!!

gonzalu
2012-09-18, 10:17 PM
Uh oh manny! Am I sure I want you to be my guide next time I am at JFK... (December it looks like)

I am only going to be your chauffeur, I will NOT guide you :tongue: You can chose where you want me to take you... seriously, and heed my warning about trusting Cubans lol. Kenny, that means you too!!

I I also bring great weather [not] wherever I go. Frankly, if you want good luck, you need Mark "Zee71" who is SCARY lucky and just has this unnatural way of getting great ops to stick to him!

Cloudy and raining all day. Mark shows up about 10 minutes before the bird departs. Clouds open up and we get perfect (and i mean perfect) sunset afternoon lighting on the damn thing. Then as soon as it departs, clouds cover the horizon and there goes the light... amazing!

megatop412
2012-09-19, 10:43 AM
I am only going to be your chauffeur, I will NOT guide you :tongue: You can chose where you want me to take you... seriously, and heed my warning about trusting Cubans lol. Kenny, that means you too!!

I I also bring great weather [not] wherever I go. Frankly, if you want good luck, you need Mark "Zee71" who is SCARY lucky and just has this unnatural way of getting great ops to stick to him!

Cloudy and raining all day. Mark shows up about 10 minutes before the bird departs. Clouds open up and we get perfect (and i mean perfect) sunset afternoon lighting on the damn thing. Then as soon as it departs, clouds cover the horizon and there goes the light... amazing!


If we each had nicknames in this group I say Mark's should be 'Dreamlifter'

MSN007
2012-09-19, 01:24 PM
The C-17 came this morning and picked up the support stuff only to bring it back next week. My tax dollars at work.

Gerard
2012-09-19, 09:49 PM
The C-17 came this morning and picked up the support stuff only to bring it back next week. My tax dollars at work.

When is he coming in? Monday? Supposed to be addressing the UN on Tuesday.