Tracking Hurricane Irene

[Matt Molnar]

The latest computer models have Hurricane Irene approaching south Jersey as a hurricane, with at least one forecasting her retaining category 2 strength as she nears L.I.

Sad I'm going to miss it. Anyone prepping yet?

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201109_5day.html

[Derf]

I guess Irene is falling off the front page now!

[Gerard]

I guess Irene is falling off the front page now!

LOl even took Ghadaffi off the front page!!

[Matt Molnar]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0911W5_NL+gif/083814W5_NL_sm.gif
The five day forecasts are only accurate to about 250 miles, but as of now they seem to be agreeing on a direct hit on NYC and/or LI Sunday.

[lijk604]

Anyone prepping yet?

Put away all the outdoor items this morning (chairs, umbrellas, loose garden items, etc). Next couple of days I'm really busy, so I may be over acting, but, at least I'll be ready if it does hit. Hopefully it goes out to sea and the work was for naught.

[Matt Molnar]

Looks like the forecast shifted east last night. Hopefully it keeps doing that over the next few days.

[Derf]

I have my swimsuit and rubber duckie all out and ready to go!

[steve1840]

Figure I'll get gas and stuff for the chain saw and like john, get all the loose items (deck furnature, bbq, etc) out of the yard. Then gas up the truck so I can head out to the coast on Sunday afternoon to get some coastal photographs of the rough surf coming in.

[PhilDernerJr]

That, water, flashlights, batteries, some canned food. But pending hurricane or not, everyone should have these items to begin with just in case.

[Derf]

PHIL! Where is the beer?

[steve1840]

PHIL! Where is the beer?

I think that falls under canned food...:rolleyes:

[PhilDernerJr]

The beer is in the left hand ALWAYS, while you're purchasing the other items.

[Derf]

Thanks for clarifying as I was worried

[Gerard]

The beer is in the left hand ALWAYS, while you're purchasing the other items.

Nice. And remember to have all your cells/Blackberries/Iphones etc FULLY CHARGED!! And your scanner is pretty important to have fully ready to go also.
I also have a nice portable DVD player that will be ready to entertain me.
Full propane tank and ice for the cooler (for not only beer :wink:).
Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

[T-Bird76]

I'm very concerned by the path of this storm. Latest forecast has this if it hits us hitting us as a Cat 2. This is one on thing in life that truly scares me. I really hope it passes well east of us. In any event if it doesn't I hope everyone in its path stays safe.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150268546612852&set=a.10150256209947852.325503.515252851&type=1&theater

[steve1840]

I'm very concerned by the path of this storm. Latest forecast has this if it hits us hitting us as a Cat 2. This is one on thing in life that truly scares me. I really hope it passes well east of us. In any event if it doesn't I hope everyone in its path stays safe.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150268546612852&set=a.10150256209947852.325503.515252851&type=1&theater

The path of this storm has me concerned as well T-Bird. When I checked the latest forecast track (I know its an estimate right now), it had the center of the storm passing right over the city where the office I work at is which is only 15 miles from my house. Not really any weather scares me, but this definitely concerns me. I have been through a couple hurricanes, but I was a kid at the time and what seemed fun and exciting then definitely does seem worrisome now. Hopefully all goes well, and the storm passes off to the east and little to no damage results.

[hiss srq]

I am very worried about it, my current house is bay front in Long Beach and I am closing on a new one as of the second week in September. My new house is beach front in the west end where the distance between the ocean and the bay is around 1,000 feet at the max. If this storm is greater than a Cat 1 Long Beach will literaly be wiped off of the map. I'm pretty scared. I have not decided if we are going to fly to Sarasota or drive to Vermont at this point but those are the two places I am anticipating my evacuation too at this point pending forcast.

[Fighting_falcon_51]

I may be overly optimistic but this looks like Hurricane Earl Part II.

Now it's time for some anxiety inducing BS Weather channel coverage!!!!!

http://i.imwx.com/images/maps/truvu/map_specnews15_ltst_4namus_enus_600x338.jpg

Honestly it looks like it's going to be another non-event. New NHC products show the storm clipping the east end (similar to Earl) and maybe giving western LI and NYC a mild nor easter like storm.

But who knows, I may be regretting this post later on.

EDIT: One thing I am worried about is the possible storm surge, especially for the south shore.

[MarkLawrence]

8pm track had it a little more west again. I'm sure everyone has their own tracking sites - the one I use - which has an abundance of information is www.spaghettimodels.com (http://www.spaghettimodels.com) - he gains information from a lot of sites and puts it on one page.

Preparedness is the only thing - we were prepared for Irene from the first day she was born - but - she is missing us now - will be watching carefully for you guys up north though...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0911W5_NL+gif/205314W5_NL_sm.gif

[cancidas]

One thing I am worried about is the possible storm surge, especially for the south shore.


same thing that worries me, my houses are only 8ft above sea level and the basement is prone to flooding in heavy rains. ruh roh...

[Fighting_falcon_51]

same thing that worries me, my houses are only 8ft above sea level and the basement is prone to flooding in heavy rains. ruh roh...

Yeah, it hurts just about everyone because coastal areas are supposed to have record high tides and that is about the time they could get hit with a storm surge. Also the ground has been saturated and that could cause more flooding and/or downed trees.

[MarkLawrence]

Looks like the latest information has it hitting the coast of North Carolina which will diminish the storm quite a bit - bring it over you guys as a category 1 or even a tropical storm - a lot better than a direct hit as a category 2....

[steve1840]

That certainly is good news Mark. At least the winds won't be as bad, but some of you guys still have the storm surge to worry about. Hopefully it isn't too bad on Long Island.

[MarkLawrence]

The 11am track has moved west a little more - the more west - the less you guys will get!!! It's looking a little better still....

[Matt Molnar]

The 11am track has moved west a little more - the more west - the less you guys will get!!! It's looking a little better still....

Storm surge could actually be much worse if it moves west. Water would be pushed into the corner formed by LI meeting the mainland and the water has nowhere to go.

[MarkLawrence]

Storm surge could actually be much worse if it moves west. Water would be pushed into the corner formed by LI meeting the mainland and the water has nowhere to go.

Wow - didn't realize that Matt - not knowing NY that well - didn't think of that - was only thinking of the wind force.

[Fighting_falcon_51]

For people in Suffolk.

For those of you who are concerned about the losing power and may not have a weather radio handy I suggest signing up for Code RED (http://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/). This is like the EAS for your phone so if there is an active emergency and automated service will call you and give you the details. This service is great and it's free!

Note: I was able to sign up last night but right now their servers are on overload, I would keep trying.

[T-Bird76]

The 11am track has moved west a little more - the more west - the less you guys will get!!! It's looking a little better still....

Mark the further west this goes unless it goes all the way inland makes it much much worse for us. If this storm's eye passes over Queens which is the latest track, Long Island will be devastated by 100+mph wind. There will be a huge storm surge to the north shore areas of the city and Long Island. The best case would be for this storm to move east with its eye crossing over the twin forks or off shore. However that does not seem to be the case right now and as things stand we are facing the worst case scenario.

At this point I am very concerned and afraid of what's coming our way. The thought of losing what you worked for doesn't sit well with me. Insurance or not some items can never be replaced.

[megatop412]

I remember Gloria in '85. We lost some trees and had some minor basement flooding. As long as it isn't worse than that, things shouldn't be too terribly bad. Although, as I'm reading, apparently it came ashore on the Island at low tide and with not an incredible amount of rain. The opposite of what is now being predicted with the effect of the moon adding into it as well.

If it turns into something crazy for real I'll be coming up there to get my Mom out of Lawrence if she insists on "riding it out"

[USAF Pilot 07]

When dealing with storms we (weather guys) divide them into quadrants. In hurricanes, it's common to split the storm into 4 equal sized quadrants.

The right front quadrant of a hurricane (i.e. north and east of the center of circulation) is generally the worst quadrant of a storm. This is where a lot of the intense precipitation associated with the storm is located and where stronger winds and conditions favorable for tornadic development is present. Also, more "important" in this case, is that due to the anti-cyclonic flow of a low pressure system (counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere), the storm surge experienced by those in the right front quadrant generally tends to the be worse than in another quadrants.

This is why it will be very bad for Long Island for this storm to track west of Long Island, but East of NYC. Even if this becomes somewhat of an inland runner, the low pressure of the system, the associated onshore winds of the system and the fact that this could hit during a full moon at high tide could be devastating for coastal sections on Long Island.

The only way this storms becomes a lower threat is if it starts tracking very far inland, somehow takes a sharp turn out to sea or completely falls apart due to strong upper level shearing - scenarios that appear very unlikely.

[Fighting_falcon_51]

The new NHC product shows the storm even more west now. Also the wind probability has been upgraded.

[PhilDernerJr]

When dealing with storms we (weather guys) divide them into quadrants. In hurricanes, it's common to split the storm into 4 equal sized quadrants.

The right front quadrant of a hurricane (i.e. north and east of the center of circulation) is generally the worst quadrant of a storm. This is where a lot of the intense precipitation associated with the storm is located and where stronger winds and conditions favorable for tornadic development is present. Also, more "important" in this case, is that due to the anti-cyclonic flow of a low pressure system (counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere), the storm surge experienced by those in the right front quadrant generally tends to the be worse than in another quadrants.

This is why it will be very bad for Long Island for this storm to track west of Long Island, but East of NYC. Even if this becomes somewhat of an inland runner, the low pressure of the system, the associated onshore winds of the system and the fact that this could hit during a full moon at high tide could be devastating for coastal sections on Long Island.

The only way this storms becomes a lower threat is if it starts tracking very far inland, somehow takes a sharp turn out to sea or completely falls apart due to strong upper level shearing - scenarios that appear very unlikely.

This is absolutely correct, but for others that are learning, "right-front" is only Northeast in this case because the storm is moving north. When hurricanes are moving west, for example, the "right front" is the northwest corner.

[eric8669]

This is going to be really bad. Everyone please be safe.

[Fighting_falcon_51]

With the new 8PM models just out, it looks like the storm moved further west again and it looks like it will brush land from NC all the way up. For our forum weather experts - Does it look like it can lose a lot of strength in the amount of time between hitting NC and hitting NY?

[steve1840]

With the new 8PM models just out, it looks like the storm moved further west again and it looks like it will brush land from NC all the way up. For our forum weather experts - Does it look like it can lose a lot of strength in the amount of time between hitting NC and hitting NY?

I'm by no means a weather expert, but with the storm only skirting the coastline with the center of the storm staying over land it won't lose a lot of its potency. The part of the storm that draws all the moisture in off the ocean to fuel it will still be mostly over water unfortunately.

[PhilDernerJr]

The land temps have been cool, which hopefully will slow it down (hurricanes thrive on warm temps). It's somewhat early, but I'm seeing forecasts that have the eye passing through the shore of New Jersey at 3pm on Sunday with 86mph winds and 103mph gusts.

Again, it's early. I think whatever we here Saturday will of course let us know if we need to start changing our underwear. Regardless, I plan on stocking up on supplies TOMORROW. Get it done EARLY. Be safe now instead of sorry later.

[Gerard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZm96PKwtHc&feature=related

[Fighting_falcon_51]

It looks like we will get hit when it is in between a CAT 1 and CAT 2. Also it looks like we will see it early Sunday until late Sunday night.

http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_hurr_images/2011/aI/uhaI_2_640x480.gif

[PhilDernerJr]

Ha, you think that map is scary? This one shows Irene cleared to the ILS RWY 4L approach...

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/AXvhiQXCMAEQIvT.jpg

[Fighting_falcon_51]

I don't know if I should laugh or be really concerned at that one.:confused:

[FlyFotos]

The land temps have been cool, which hopefully will slow it down (hurricanes thrive on warm temps). It's somewhat early, but I'm seeing forecasts that have the eye passing through the shore of New Jersey at 3pm on Sunday with 86mph winds and 103mph gusts.

Again, it's early. I think whatever we here Saturday will of course let us know if we need to start changing our underwear. Regardless, I plan on stocking up on supplies TOMORROW. Get it done EARLY. Be safe now instead of sorry later.

Good Luck

[Zee71]

Currently in Orlando here on business...........today (Thur) just had a few gusts and a outer band of rain this morning, otherwise nothing earth shaking! Flying back home Friday late afternoon to LGA. Hopefully, I am able to get back home to batten down the hatches. Everyone stay safe.

[mirrodie]

Phil, enjoyed a bit of a laugh.

Well, We're as preparedas we're gonna be. May tape up the windows and bring the patio set into the garage but otherwise enjoying tomorrow.

[hiss srq]

City Of Long Beach has instituted a voluntary evacuation now, however, I anticipate that it will turn into a full fledged mandetory as of tomorrow night some time around the close of business.

[adscram14]

Wishing you all the best of luck, please stay safe up there.

[moose135]

From Newsday.com, per the latest NWS update.
http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/hurricane-irene-taking-aim-at-long-island-1.3122945



Hurricane Irene's outer arms will ruffle Long Island starting Saturday evening, with the worst effects coming midday Sunday -- earlier than had been projected, forecasters said. The storm will first start to affect Long Island on Saturday with tropical-storm-force winds, according to the National Weather Service. Expected to be a Category 1 storm when it arrives, the most intense effects will be felt Sunday, with heavy rain and winds of up to 110 mph.


A midmorning update from the National Hurricane Center shows the storm's center tracking across Long Island from West Babylon to East Setauket, a shift east from the track forecasters were eyeing Thursday, which put the center of the storm across Queens or western Nassau. "There's going to be a huge swath of 5 to 10 inches of rain," hurricane center director Bill Read said in a 10 a.m. news conference.And from FlightAware:

N757AF/B752 has just filed a flight plan. It is scheduled to depart from Newark Liberty Intl (KEWR) at 01:00PM EDT heading for Palm Beach Intl (KPBI) for an estimated arrival at 03:28PM EDT. Looks like The Donald is heading out of town.

ETA: The Weather Channel just reported that Coney Island Hospital is being evacuated.

[PhilDernerJr]

Irene from space...

07d_1314311753

[steve1840]

Cool stuff Phil! She is definitely one massive storm.

[Gerard]

Looks like ALL mass transportation will coming to a grinding stop tomorrow at Noon. That's subways, buses, Metro North, LIRR, NJ Transit, PATH. Man this is NUTS!!!!
Was at Jones Beach today as it was a beautiful day but the surf was already rough and pounding the shoreline. Some of the waves came up pretty high onto the beach freaking out
people who thought they were at a safe distance. Was kinda funny. :cool:

[eric8669]

All towns South of Sunrise hwy from queens border to Rockville Centre now have mandatory evacuation. I think that's a bit extreme, looking at my options.

[mirrodie]

You know, we're as prepared as we're gonna be. The only thing that realy conerns me? WEll I have only been through Hurricane Gloria. I dont recall what category it was but WE drove up and down Montauk HWY afterwards and it was all fallens lines and large fallen trees.

That said, no one here is comparing Irene to Gloria but instead to older storms like Donna.

So it looks like this would be worse than Gloria.

[cancidas]

Looks like ALL mass transportation will coming to a grinding stop tomorrow at Noon. That's subways, buses, Metro North, LIRR, NJ Transit, PATH. Man this is NUTS!!!!


i've lived in NYC for 20+ yrs and haven't ever seen an MTA shutdown save for the strike a couple years ago at christmas. i'm glad i drive in situations like this. especially when you consider how atrocious mass transit to LGA is on a good day.

anyone know where i can score some sand? i have about 3 dozen bags that are empty and lonely and am trying to NOT drive to the hamptons to get it.

[moose135]

anyone know where i can score some sand? i have about 3 dozen bags that are empty and lonely and am trying to NOT drive to the hamptons to get it.
Just wait a little while, Matt - by Sunday, there should be plenty blowing your way from the South Shore. :rolleyes:

[Gerard]

Daily News is reporting that JFK, LGA, Newark, Stewart, Teterboro will close to all arrivals at Noon on Saturday. My brother and his wife are in Jamaica expecting to fly in Sat night.
Ooops guess not.

[hiss srq]

I will be in my office this morning till JFK scuttles most likely. After that, I'll be riding it out at City Hall in Long Beach on orders.

[megatop412]

You know, we're as prepared as we're gonna be. The only thing that realy conerns me? WEll I have only been through Hurricane Gloria. I dont recall what category it was but WE drove up and down Montauk HWY afterwards and it was all fallens lines and large fallen trees.

That said, no one here is comparing Irene to Gloria but instead to older storms like Donna.

So it looks like this would be worse than Gloria.

I compared the two earlier:

"I remember Gloria in '85. We lost some trees and had some minor basement flooding. As long as it isn't worse than that, things shouldn't be too terribly bad. Although, as I'm reading, apparently it came ashore on the Island at low tide and with not an incredible amount of rain. The opposite of what is now being predicted with the effect of the moon adding into it as well."

Time will tell which was this is gonna go. I'm not a weather guy but if I had to lay my chips down I'd say the storm surge if going to be worse with Irene.

My Mom actually was going to stay in Lawrence because "the cable guy was coming this morning(Saturday) and I need my TV". I all but lit into her about getting out of there and fortunately she changed her mind.

OK, the breeze is starting to kick up down here in Philly. See you on the other side of this

[cancidas]

Just wait a little while, Matt - by Sunday, there should be plenty blowing your way from the South Shore. :rolleyes:

went to coney island late last night came home with 30 bags. this morning i remembered i have 10 buckets of sand in my backyard. typical.

[Art at ISP]

Having been through Gloria and one or two other storm events as a firefighter, all I can say is prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Those under mandatory evacuation orders should evacuate, because if you get into trouble, no one is coming to help you. Government officials will not risk the lives of first responders to save those who ignore orders to leave...nor should they.

That said, I hope everyone stays safe and dry, and let's check in during if possible and afterward......

[Derf]

Some from this morning

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-66kwGmC/1/L/IMG9829-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-Ns8zxb7/1/L/IMG9751-L.jpg


http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-f4tcxMZ/1/L/IMG9734-L.jpg2

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-rVDPz8Q/1/L/IMG9762-L.jpg
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-KxXppXT/1/L/IMG9790-L.jpg
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-RT6k3Nb/1/L/IMG9793-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-c29TMG7/1/L/IMG9839-L.jpg

Many More here
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/18741632_hdmZRQ#1450241634_dmQbKT6

[steve1840]

Nice images Fred. I was hoping to be able to out tot he beaches up here in RI today, but they have evac'd the coast line and won't let anybody out to the shore :(

[AirtrafficController]

Last departure out of KJFK will be at 1900L. Most of the aircraft are gone at Kennedy, Terminal 8 ramp is empty.

[moose135]

Amazing what a little storm will do..


Langley Temporarily Lifts F-22 Grounding Order to Escape Hurricane

Air Force officials have temporarily lifted the grounding of the F-22 Raptor fleet based at Langley AFB, Va., so the aircraft can avoid Hurricane Irene's wrath. The fighters, which have been grounded since May due to safety concerns over malfunctioning on-board oxygen-generation systems, started flying to Grissom ARB, Ind., around 10 a.m. Friday. Full story:
http://www.airforce-magazine.com/Pages/default.aspx

This is a one-time waiver, which includes the return to Langley after the storm. The grounding order will go back into effect once they are back home.

Back in 1985, when Hurricane Gloria came up the coast, I was flying tankers out of Grissom. We had a gaggle of Langley F-15s spend a few days with us to get away from the storm.

[PhilDernerJr]

I did a lap around JFK and almost every terminal is empty. Though I couldn't see EVERY corner, I could only see one plane at all of T4, a LAN about to pushback. I saw a Cathay taxiing IN, and a BA 747 at T7. I couldn't see anything at all at T1 or 2.

I must say, it is pretty fun dispatching planes around a hurricane. I love the low barometers.

[PhilDernerJr]

LGA is also of course deserted.

[Gerard]

Amazing what a little storm will do..
This is a one-time waiver, which includes the return to Langley after the storm. The grounding order will go back into effect once they are back home.


That would have been cool to see them heading out. And come back in. :smile:
BTW as of 4:30 not much here in Eastern Nassau except some light rain. Quite humid though. Just heard someone coming into FRG on ILS 1-4.

[Fighting_falcon_51]

http://www.w2lie.net is now and will be streaming the following frequencies during the storm:

Nasasu County OEM
Suffolk County EOC
New York City OEM
Nassau County ARES
Nassau County RACES
Suffolk County ARES/RACES
Nassau County SKYWARN
Suffolk County SKYWARN
New York City ARES
Long Island Red Cross
New York City Red Cross

[Gerard]

At this point the media here in NYC have gone pretty much overkill in the coverage IMHO. Especially since really nothing is going on yet. I mean every local Channel has been on this all day.
Sorry but Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz here. Thank goodness I have 3000 channels on my iO and shows stored on my DVR. And "E" had a Kardashian mini-Marathon earlier. :biggrin::tongue: LMAO!!
Be safe all!!

[Fighting_falcon_51]

Yeah right now it is nothing. Western Suffolk: light ran, 4MPH winds, and 100% humidity.

[eric8669]

A few surfer pics. And one of our favorite weatherman. NOT!

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/20110827-IMG_5087.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/20110827-IMG_5124.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/20110827-IMG_5156.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/20110827-IMG_5078.jpg

[PhilDernerJr]

Ha, did you flip him off?

[PhilDernerJr]

Here are a couple quick cell phone shots I snapped today...

That LAN Chile departed at 3:17pm.
http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/IMG-20110827-00247.jpg

This Cathay was taxiing to the gate but not sure for what purpose. Its departure, as I understand, was still canceled. I wonder where it may have been parked.
http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/IMG-20110827-00248.jpg

[sammers4247]

Already reported outages in Staten Island, where I am. Realllyyy hoping we hang on to power 'til at least the morning.

[Gerard]

Wind picking up, rain getting heavier and some nice thunder/lightning. Safe to say SHE has arrived!
On a personal note my brother his wife and my two nieces were supposed to fly back from Jamaica tonite and we know that aint happening. Through private FB messages I
found out the soonest they can get a flight out is Wed and that is only to Ft Lauderdale. And they have no hotel accomodations so they and many other people are trolling around
for a place to stay. And parts of Jamaica arent the safest places to be so I'm a little worried about that.
Stay safe all.

[mirrodie]

"I must say, it is pretty fun dispatching planes around a hurricane. I love the low barometers."

Phil, can you explain why? Im not familiar with the effect of low barometers. Please explain.

Surprised the last flight was so late. My partner's JFK-JAX was nixed last night. I asked if he could get to Dallas and then back down to JAX or TPA, but they just weren't pushing out of JFK at all. (on b6 at least)

[PhilDernerJr]

The lowest barometric reading you'll find are during hurricanes. When dispatching, you calculate how the aircraft will perform on a runway based on various conditions and you make corrections and adjustments in accordance. Things like rain, slush and also pressure. It can be measured by inches of mercury, which you may know more when you listen to ATIS and you hear "altimeter two niner niner two," which tells pilots to modify their altimeters to that setting for the local pressure, so that all of the planes' altimeters are calibrated for the same altitudes. 2992 is the standard altimeter setting, meaning 29.92 inches of mercury in a barometer. The lowest barometer reading ever was 25.63" on the tip of a typhoon in 1979.

Seeing the low pressures when planning flights, the low barometric readings mean that I need to make more of a correction to that runway performance. Why is that cool you ask? It's not. I'm just an easily entertained geek.

Also, routing a plane's flight around a hurricane is just fun to me. Making your own forecast to predict where the storm will be when the plane is there, keeping it close enough so that you don't waste gas by going too far out of the way, but also keeping them safe and comfortable...and legal, working with ATC guidelines and reroutes that they put out as such storms develop.

Nerdy stuff, but I'm enjoying it.

I hope you're all being overly safe and taking care of yourselves through this!

[Derf]

Video of the Ocean this evening at 7PM (CLICK HERE) (http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/18741632_hdmZRQ#1451104943_RnrhzRs-X2-LB)

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-DW45Gq7/0/L/IMG0092-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-QgvMTtX/0/L/IMG0210-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-qsNKjVP/0/L/IMG0259-L.jpg

[mirrodie]

Phil, love the explanation and as ocular and blood pressures are measured in millimeters of mercury, I can relate to the measurement.
Further, when doing refractive surgery, we need other variables clarified as they affect our pressure readings. Corneal thickness comes to mind. So I can see how you're enjoying it. Its not geekness, its the beauty of science applied. :)

With such low pressures, I know you have ot consider other factors, but in a general sense, do they need more or less runway to get up in the air?

[mirrodie]

Fred, I knew you'd post. :O) From what beach?

[PhilDernerJr]

With such low pressures, I know you have ot consider other factors, but in a general sense, do they need more or less runway to get up in the air?

The lower, the tougher.

[Derf]

Fred, I knew you'd post. :O) From what beach?

Ocean Parkway...stopped a few times along the way. I think that was from around Gilgo

[hiss srq]

Safe and sound here in Long Beach, the bay and ocean met down the block from me and there is 3 feet of bay surrounding my house. (good thing for basement pumps). Worked 13 hours till they pulled those of us who had to stay back and work off the streets of Long Beach. Me and my partner hung w Erin Colton for a while by Allegria while we were yanking idiots off the beach. Wild day yesterday. Hope no one is stupid enough to go outside let alone on the beach today because if you are, good luck, no one is coming for you.

[Spunker]

the nasty bits have started arriving in Boston

[Gerard]

Bathroom break at 4AM :redface: and the rain and wind was pretty wild. Rain over now but winds still howling and listening to the town FD on my scanner and they are pretty busy running around
with lines and trees down. I have a big branch hanging off a tree in my backyard leaning onto powerlines so I gotta give LIPA a call.

[Art at ISP]

All good here, but just had a cesspool collapse at my property in Sea Cliff. I had the FD come and turn off the gas to one of my buildings because it pulled the meter into the hole, but no one is hurt, the area is cordoned off and the cesspool company has been notified.

Still pretty windy, I'd expect it will stay windy for the next 6 hours or so--there are actually waves in my pool.

[Gerard]

Still pretty windy, I'd expect it will stay windy for the next 6 hours or so--there are actually waves in my pool.

THat is what they are saying so everyone should be careful and stay inside. Gusts up to 50/60 MPH for the next few hours.

[moose135]

So far, so good in Syosset. Lots of wind and rain overnight, but power, phone, and FioS are all working - guy behind me said he has power, but cable was out... Power flickered two or three times, and we have some branches down in the backyard, but all the trees are standing. Still very windy out there, but the rain has stopped.

[Art at ISP]

2PM, even the wind has subsided substantially. I am getting ready to head to Sea Cliff to see what has happened there. Haven't heard from the cesspool company as yet...but everyone is safe.

[Gerard]

2PM, even the wind has subsided substantially.

Yes it has. Took a nice slow drive around my town. Saw a number of trees down including one bog SOB lying right across Manetto Hill Road by Fairway with power lines all tangled
up in it. Looks like it might be there awhile. Lots of leaves and branches everywhere. Saw two houses that had trees on top of their house (not good). A friend of mine had a huge tree
fall in their backyard just missing their deck and house.
But on the bright side if you look at the 7 Day forecast its going to be quite beautiful out. Sunny skies, low humidity. One forecaster says this is typical after a hurricane as the storms pull
out all the energy from the atmosphere with them as they pass by.

[Zee71]

Had a chance to step out this morning and this is what HoBe looked liked when Hurricane Irene did her thing.

Looking south on Cross Bay Blvd. going towards the HoBe spotting location. Two dumpsters blocking the ramps on the bridge going to the Rockaways.
http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Weather/Hurricane-Irene/i-rJ3TMNN/0/L/HurricaneIrene0428Aug2011-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Weather/Hurricane-Irene/i-TmSK4tS/0/L/HurricaneIrene0528Aug2011-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Weather/Hurricane-Irene/i-9qfmvr7/0/L/HurricaneIrene0728Aug2011-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Weather/Hurricane-Irene/i-stJnnHP/0/L/HurricaneIrene1728Aug2011-L.jpg

Need an inground pool? Here is a sample of their work!
http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Weather/Hurricane-Irene/i-3stqfkj/0/L/HurricaneIrene0928Aug2011-L.jpg

Burger King ........ have it your way!
http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Weather/Hurricane-Irene/i-dRZrwX6/0/L/HurricaneIrene1528Aug2011-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Weather/Hurricane-Irene/i-xn8XFfm/0/L/HurricaneIrene1228Aug2011-L.jpg

[eric8669]

the water got within about 20 yards of where i live and then receded. One block over there was a river of water going down the street.

[Gerard]

Had a chance to step out this morning and this is what HoBe looked liked when Hurricane Irene did her thing.
Looking south on Cross Bay Blvd. going towards the HoBe spotting location. Two dumpsters blocking the ramps on the bridge going to the Rockaways.


Well unless you had a boat doesnt look like you were getting to the bridge anyway. :eek:
Pretty wild.

[Gerard]

Was out sweeping my backyard and returning my furniture when I heard an approaching copter. It was a Bell 430 and it was heading S/SE probably in the area of the Hicksville. Looked like
it might have been a State ship. Maybe Gov Cuomo in the area checking things out? About 3PM.
And NYPD Aviation 14 Air/Sea Rescue was over a windsurfer at Riis Park who lost his board about 200 yards off shore. They were thinking of deploying divers but the guy got his board
back and they used their PA system to tell him to get back to sure. He complied.
Got a little breezy out again.

[NIKV69]

the water got within about 20 yards of where i live and then receded. One block over there was a river of water going down the street.

Eric you get a chance to drive by Middle Bay CC and see how they were?

My cousin in Middlesex, NJ got hit bad This is his block. He was up all night helping people out with boats.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6779/31409723714433268611273.jpg

[Gerard]

Eric you get a chance to drive by Middle Bay CC and see how they were?
My cousin in Middlesex, NJ got hit bad This is his block. He was up all night helping people out with boats.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6779/31409723714433268611273.jpg

Wow!! Amazing. Irene dropped tons of more rain on NJ than here on LI. We were lucky in that respect.

[Derf]

Nick at the peak of the storm with the Atlantic behind him by Gilgo
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/photos/i-qRwJ2hz/0/L/i-qRwJ2hz-L.jpg

These shots were taken between 7am and 11am
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-z3xSgdF/0/L/IMG0400-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-HJ8Pz6q/0/L/IMG0439-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-vMtXmzm/0/L/IMG0490-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-ZZxvdKj/0/L/IMG0555-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-2ssGS4Q/0/L/IMG0615-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-fXG5QdV/0/L/IMG0696-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-z25Nhsn/0/L/IMG0733-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-dxLwPPb/0/L/IMG0764-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-sn4sQvP/0/L/IMG0823-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-QNLD5c5/0/L/IMG0850-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-cg3MMfR/0/L/IMG0885-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-vTNZwKC/0/L/IMG0942-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-Xcs9QNH/0/L/IMG0976-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-WL4gcXB/0/L/IMG1041-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-Vc3dRcS/0/L/IMG1440-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-pNChg27/0/L/IMG1512-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-mxXV5bd/0/L/IMG1557-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/i-DRTmS4B/0/L/UntitledPanorama1a-L.jpg

I have lots of videos that I can post soon if anyone is interested

[eric8669]

Taken late afternoon in Long Beach. Wind Guest were still up near 30/40 miles an hour.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/20110828-IMG_5191_2_3.jpg

[Gerard]

Got pretty windy and some rain around 4PM. Clear now and a beautiful sunset in places (watching Long Beach on News12) still some gusty winds.
BTW has anyone seen ANY LIPA trucks around? Anywhere? :confused::frown:

[Fighting_falcon_51]

Here are some storm surge pictures from Amity Harbor (Sorry about the quality but these are not my pictures, they are a mirror of already published photo's with consent to mirror and distribute from the copyright holder.)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6078/6091017518_b15ccc2545_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091017518/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091017518/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6078/6091004540_5c3ae664f9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091004540/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091004540/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6072/6090468485_ddbd2bdf4b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6090468485/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6090468485/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6190/6090467039_242585d7fa_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6090467039/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6090467039/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6078/6091006658_c46f459a69_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091006658/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091006658/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6069/6090457895_02e3ccc734_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6090457895/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6090457895/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6078/6091006658_c46f459a69_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091006658/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091006658/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6086/6091013594_8d70803049_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091013594/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091013594/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6070/6091016166_5d8e3b51fb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091016166/)
Summer 2011: Hurricane Irene Hits Amity Harbor, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethpagliughi/6091016166/) by Kenneth Pagliughi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kennethpagliughi/), on Flickr

More @ http://kjpgallery.com

[hiss srq]

Great grabs everyone. I'll get around to posting the ones I grabbed this morning and during tour later. The Gov. came into town mid day for the typical driveby tour and hand shaking session mid day today.

[Gerard]

Beautiful evening with the stars shining and cool temps. And very quiet skies with all the airports closed. Last time the skies were this quiet was almost 10 years ago. :frown:

[steve1840]

Those are all some killer shots! Fred, you were about to go out to Gilgo and Fire Island during the storm? We couldn't get even within eye-sight of the coast line here even before the storm started.

[lijk604]

Those are all some killer shots! Fred, you were about to go out to Gilgo and Fire Island during the storm? We couldn't get even within eye-sight of the coast line here even before the storm started.

Fred is ninja-photographer. Nobody sees him. His car is painted in stealth scheme. ;)

[Derf]

Here is a video that I took of Nick in Gilgo (video click Here) (http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/18741632_hdmZRQ#1452410945_HP9dmpf-A-LB)

Bayport video (Video click here) (http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/18741632_hdmZRQ#1452374543_XxxcC5w-A-LB)

Closer Bayport Video (click here) (http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/18741632_hdmZRQ#1452383351_6W4LdrB-A-LB)

Nick and I crossing the bridge ...shot while driving yesterday at 8am (click Here) (http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Events/Hurricane-Irene-2011/18741632_hdmZRQ#1452473922_jVz6583-A-LB)

[moose135]

Great shots, guys! Just when I thought it was over, we ended up losing power about 7:30 Sunday evening. Came back on around 1:40 this afternoon - right after my neighbor brought home a generator from work so we could at least keep both our refrigerators running.

[Gerard]

Great shots, guys! Just when I thought it was over, we ended up losing power about 7:30 Sunday evening. Came back on around 1:40 this afternoon - right after my neighbor brought home a generator from work so we could at least keep both our refrigerators running.

I was lucky but wouldnt be surprised I lose it sometime during the week. There are lots of areas without power all around me and sometimes they have to shutdown other grids to repair
another. Well one more day of Vacay tomorrow then back to work Wed so hopefully they do it while I'm at work (sorry dear :wink:). I know a few friends here were told Thursday, others Friday or Sat. :mad:

[Gerard]

And NYPD Aviation 14 Air/Sea Rescue was over a windsurfer at Riis Park who lost his board about 200 yards off shore. They were thinking of deploying divers but the guy got his board back and they used their PA system to tell him to get back to sure. He complied.

They were busy upstate also.... http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/08/29/2011-08-29_nypd_helicopter_team_rescues_capsized_rafters_i n_hurricane_irene_swelled_westche.html

[Greg_NY]

Still no power over in my area of Plainview. We lost power about 5AM Sunday.

The LIPA outage map still says "Assessing Conditions" - I would have thought that they would be done with the assessing phase. It would be nice of LIPA to keep people better informed like ConED has been doing.

All our food is lost in the refrigerator too. Overall though, I am very thankful that our house did not sustain any damage. About 8 houses up from me, a huge tree fell directly on this guys house. So we are very lucky in that regard.

Isaac

[PhilDernerJr]

Wow, I had no idea that Cross Bay and Long Island received that much flooding! There are so much "hype" coverage on TV leading up to it but I saw very little post-storm coverage that showed actual damage. Were there any local injuries or fatalities?

Here in northern Queens we got had many downed trees and powerlines, resulting in closed off streets and sidewalks. Sunday ended up being very windy, with people still walking around and the Astoria bars being the only places open....and filled with patrons.

I am really hating the people that are acting as though it was all a joke and an over-hype. This storm DID do damage, it DID kill people, and it still could have, and almost was, so much worse. It sounds as though everyone took the exact amount of healthy precaution that they should have.

I myself moved almost everything out of my basement and onto the 1st floor and put some emergency supplies (food, water, flashlights, batteries, blankets) on the stairs in case we needed to retreat due to broken windows. Ended up not needing it, and yesterday I returned several packages of unopened batteries to Radio Shack, but I'm glad I did everything I did. We should all be ready with such supplies ALL the time, because we never know when things are going to happen. Hurricanes are one thing we know in advance, but terror attacks and even earthquakes (we may get a major one) need to keep us ready at any moment.

Hope you're all safe and the damage to your homes was minimal or non-existent.

[moose135]

As Gerard mentioned in the FRG thread, the Army Corps of Engineers and FEMA have set up on the terminal ramp at Republic Airport.

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Airliners-and-Airport-Spotting/Republic-Airport/i-4Ns9RXS/0/L/JM20110830FRG002-L.jpg

[NLovis]

I hope all of you had no issues through Irene. We lost power but have it back now. Now if only Optimum would get online, got a little of JB after Irene passed. See you all on the flickr side.

[yankees368]

Hello from Woodmere. Lost power as 12:07am Sunday, pretty much as soon as the storm started. Still have not gotten anything back, or seen as much as a LIPA truck.

[Art at ISP]

I hope everyone is safe and that you didn't have too much damage. We had power and cable throughout the storm, we only lost power about 10PM Sunday night, but it came back on around 4AM Monday. Our lines are all underground, so I would think that the wind Sunday night took down a feeder line or transformer, or they might have shut us down to repair a line. In any case, we're all safe and sound here--there are major trees down in the neighborhood, with many already chopped up and piled at the side of the road.

While this did significant damage, we should be thankful that it weakened before hitting us--there are others less fortunate, and for us it could have been much worse.

Let's hope we're done with hurricanes for a long time to come!!

[hiss srq]

There are still alot of people without power. A couple of my friends lost alot in the storm due to flooding mainly. We have a pump in the basement built in so when the ocean and the bay met we were good for the most part. Hopefully people can recover fast. Yesterday doing my rounds it was sad to see most of what many people own on the west end out to the curb. The west end got it bad being narrow compared to the rest of LB. My new house came out amazingly unscathed though. I was pretty happy about that. Another bonus about this is Quicksilver has tremendously scaled down the event here in Long Beach. Hopefully that will alleviate the parking concerns now down here as less people overall will come for it. The beach is already almost back to normal size too.

[lijk604]

We all talk about how things are here on Long Island and the city. I have a co-worker who's daughter lives in CT not too far from the shore, they have no power, no phone, AND they have well water, so...no fresh water either. They have a massive amount of downed trees, so many that the authorities still have not cleared certain neighborhoods, because they cant get to them. I for one am grateful we were spared the major wrath of this storm, and hope we do not see one again for quite some time.

[Gerard]

We all talk about how things are here on Long Island and the city. I have a co-worker who's daughter lives in CT not too far from the shore, they have no power, no phone, AND they have well water, so...no fresh water either. They have a massive amount of downed trees, so many that the authorities still have not cleared certain neighborhoods, because they cant get to them. I for one am grateful we were spared the major wrath of this storm, and hope we do not see one again for quite some time.

People are bitching and moaning because they have no power/lights for a few days but once they get that power back they should check out what is happening STILL in NJ, North Carolina,
Virginia, upstate NY and Vermont!! We got off easy compared to these poor citizens. If we ever get hit with anything bigger than this storm, well, lets hope not. It wont be pretty.

[mirrodie]

we;re back online,

heres how it went down at our compound,. I went to sleep on sat night. Thorughoiut the night, I would awake and was just impressed that we still had power. Got up early sunday to some water in the crawlspace but we still had pwoer so I starte up the dehumidifier and wet dry vac. By noon, the storm was over and THATs when the power cut out. Seems ridiculous.

Some fallen branches and treees, all misseed the cars and homes. We had no electric for 36 hours and ti be honest,y we it not for hte food in the fridge spoiling, we enjoyed it. We made it an indoor 'campout' experience for the kids. lights and candles. We have a propane sotve and so cooking was easy and our neighbors also used our oven.

But we enjoyed not having hte electric. It was a mild inconvenience. But when you break it down to the basics, it was a walk through the park compared to what others have been through.

[yankees368]

Just got power back now. 73 hours

[T-Bird76]

I was very lucky, never lost power while over 90% of my town did. Only have one tree that partially uprooted, which should be able to be righted. The rest of my town didn't fare as well as I did. Down by the water most homes had their 1st floors flooded and many large Oak trees came crashing down on homes. There's talk that they will retire Irene's name from the list of names used for Hurricanes since it did so much damage and over 40 deaths.

[steve1840]

Just got power back now. 73 hours

Still without here in Eastern CT. There was a little hope earlier this morning, but that has since diminished.