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Matt Molnar
2011-08-05, 09:43 PM
Citing "brake and fuel" issues, JetBlue 235 SLC-LGB is circling over the Pacific to burn fuel before an emergency landing at LGB.


http://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=klgb

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JBU235/history/20110805/2346Z/KSLC/KLGB
NIKV69
2011-08-05, 10:25 PM
Reports are the autobrake release was the culprit. Royal Scott King was there shooting and saw her land and said Canyon Blue took off shortly before! How cool!
Matt Molnar
2011-08-05, 10:32 PM
Landed safely.
yankees368
2011-08-06, 11:28 AM
When I was listening to ATC I did hear another B6 take off right before, but was it really Canyon Blue??? That was the one involved in the 2005 LAX landing, correct? Very weird.
hiss srq
2011-08-06, 01:28 PM
total non event.
yankees368
2011-08-06, 01:46 PM
total non event.

and that is a good thing.
hiss srq
2011-08-06, 01:59 PM
Absolutely, trust me, there are not many people on this web site who take an interest in it as much as I.
B6Busdriver
2011-08-07, 09:51 AM
I had the same thing going to LGB last month, we never told a soul. We ran the QRH on climbout flew the transcon and landed at LGB without a worry. If it was just an autobreak fault its no big deal at all.
PhilDernerJr
2011-08-07, 10:40 AM
FYI to all, QRH = Quick Reference Handbook.

B6B, if Long Beach was their destination anyway, why would they need to circle to burn gas? I assume it couldn't have been an overweight issue. Just to reduce gas fire in case something happened because of tankered fuel maybe?
B6Busdriver
2011-08-07, 11:21 AM
Thats a really great question, one I'd need to talk to the crew to answer. If it was a simple autobreak fault there really would be no need to burn gas unless they were overwieght. The result of the QRH would simply be to use manuel breaking with the petals. The only reason I could see buring gas would be the plane was on the upper limits of the max landing weight and as a way to reduce the stress on the breaks the crew burned some additional gas to lighten up a bit. This is of course all sepeculation because unfortunatly I have no idea what the real ECAM message was. My guess is the guys were being extra caustious as LGB has fairly short runways after taking the displaced threshold into account.
PhilDernerJr
2011-08-07, 11:26 AM
On the A320, does the autobrake include auto-deployment of spoilers as well or is that always automatic with weight-on-wheels?
B6Busdriver
2011-08-07, 11:35 AM
There is a serparate handle to arm the ground spoilers, they auto deploy with the handle armed, thrust levers idle, and greater than 72 knots ground speed. The auto break system is independant. The breaks themsleves opperate off the hydaulic system and work fine without the auto breaking, when the auto breaks fail we break just like you would in a Cessna 152.
Big Tim #70
2011-08-07, 07:57 PM
FYI to all, QRH = Quick Reference Handbook.

B6B, if Long Beach was their destination anyway, why would they need to circle to burn gas? I assume it couldn't have been an overweight issue. Just to reduce gas fire in case something happened because of tankered fuel maybe?

I used to work for Fuel Controls Inc. @ Terminal II Jet Center, LGB. At the time, we fueled all commercial flights @ LGB. Most of the carriers came in heavy because fuel was pretty expensive there. Most of the time, we were simply topping off, rarely giving a full fuel load. I would be willing to guess that's the reason they had to circle & burn off some of the extra.