Northeast Blizzard December 2010 [Archive]

Matt Molnar

2010-12-25, 05:16 PM

Blizzard Warning

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
355 PM EST SAT DEC 25 2010

...A MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL IMPACT THE REGION FROM SUNDAY THROUGH
MONDAY AFTERNOON...

CTZ007>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ071>075-078>081-176>179-
260500-
/O.UPG.KOKX.WS.A.0005.101226T1800Z-101227T1800Z/
/O.NEW.KOKX.BZ.W.0002.101226T1100Z-101227T2300Z/
NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-
SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-
WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-
EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-
EASTERN UNION-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-
RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-
NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-
NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-
355 PM EST SAT DEC 25 2010

...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST
MONDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD
WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST MONDAY.
THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* LOCATIONS...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY...NEW YORK CITY AND ITS
IMMEDIATE SUBURBS...LONG ISLAND...AND COASTAL AND INTERIOR
SOUTHEAST CONNECTICUT.

* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS...WITH CONSIDERABLE
BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW AND NEAR ZERO VISIBILITY AT TIMES.

* ACCUMULATIONS...11 TO 16 INCHES...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS
POSSIBLE IN HEAVIER SNOW BANDS WHOSE EXACT LOCATION IS STILL TOO
EARLY TO DETERMINE. SNOW MAY MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO RAIN AND
SLEET AT THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM LATE SUNDAY NIGHT ACROSS
EASTERN LONG ISLAND...AND POSSIBLY ACROSS COASTAL SOUTHEAST
CONNECTICUT...WHICH COULD HOLD DOWN AMOUNTS THERE...BUT ONLY
AFTER SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.

* IMPACTS...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS DEVELOPING DUE
TO SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...AND STRONG WINDS CAUSING
CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW. VISIBILITIES WILL BE
NEAR ZERO AT TIMES...WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS EXPECTED. STRONG
WINDS MAY ALSO DOWN SOME POWER LINES...TREE LIMBS...AND
CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS.

* TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL LIKELY BEGIN DURING SUNDAY
MORNING...THEN BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES FROM LATE SUNDAY AFTERNOON
INTO MUCH OF SUNDAY NIGHT. LIGHT SNOWS WILL LIKELY LINGER INTO
MONDAY MORNING AND POSSIBLY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.

* WINDS....DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM SUNDAY NIGHT...NORTH
WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 20 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS 40 TO 55
MPH...HIGHEST ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN LONG ISLAND.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG
WINDS AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT
CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF
YOU MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET
STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE.

NIKV69

2010-12-25, 06:08 PM

Well If I am here I may as well get the snow! Hope it dumps on us!

adscram14

2010-12-25, 06:58 PM

I'm up from NC this week. My reaction: :biggrin::cool::smile:

AirtrafficController

2010-12-25, 11:37 PM

hiss srq

2010-12-26, 06:35 AM

I ordered a couple meals ready and am ready for the vista that will be JFK airport from above..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Let it snow let it snow let it snow.

PhilDernerJr

2010-12-26, 11:51 AM

Current radar as of 10:08am...

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/wxradar_1408UTC12252010.jpg

Matt Molnar

2010-12-26, 12:33 PM

Flight cancellation data

Delta: 800
US: 399
Continental: 200
jetBlue: 248
American: ?
United: ?
Southwest: ?

moose135

2010-12-26, 01:09 PM

SWA and DL have canceled all flights out of ISP after 2pm.

Matt Molnar

2010-12-26, 01:57 PM

National Weather Service now forecasting 15-20 inches for NYC, northern NJ and most of LI, up to two feet in some areas.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
1240 PM EST SUN DEC 26 2010

...DANGEROUS WINTER STORM IMMINENT...

CTZ009-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ071>075-078-080-176>179-270145-
/O.CON.KOKX.BZ.W.0002.000000T0000Z-101227T2300Z/
SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-
WESTERN BERGEN-EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-
WESTERN UNION-EASTERN UNION-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-
NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-
KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-
NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-
1240 PM EST SUN DEC 26 2010

...BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM EST MONDAY...

A BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM EST MONDAY.

* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS...WITH CONSIDERABLE
BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW WITH NEAR ZERO VISIBILITY AT
TIMES.

* ACCUMULATIONS...15 TO 20 INCHES...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS UP
TO 2 FEET POSSIBLE.

* IMPACTS...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS DEVELOPING
THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING DUE TO SIGNIFICANT SNOW
ACCUMULATIONS...AND STRONG WINDS CAUSING CONSIDERABLE BLOWING
AND DRIFTING OF SNOW. VISIBILITIES WILL BE NEAR ZERO AT
TIMES... WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS EXPECTED. STRONG WINDS MAY
ALSO DOWN SOME POWER LINES...TREE LIMBS...AND CHRISTMAS
DECORATIONS.

* TIMING...SNOW WILL BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES THIS AFTERNOON INTO
MUCH OF TONIGHT. THE SNOW WILL TAPER OFF FROM WEST TO EAST
MONDAY MORNING...BUT STRONG NORTHWEST WINDS WILL PERSIST THROUGH
THE AFTERNOON.

* WINDS....DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM TONIGHT...NORTH WINDS
WILL INCREASE TO 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS OF 40 TO 60 MPH.
ISOLATED HIGHER GUSTS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS LONG ISLAND.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG WINDS
AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT
CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF
YOU MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET
STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE.

NIKV69

2010-12-26, 02:16 PM

NFL has postponed game tonight in PHL.

Gerard

2010-12-26, 03:12 PM

NFL has postponed game tonight in PHL.

Rare week when both Giants and Jets away. Islanders and Devils both have home games tonite.
Interesting current conditions on Newsday weather map: Snow and Freezing Fog!! Freezing fog? Cool!! :cool:
And dont be surprised if there are TStorms in this blizzard!!

megatop412

2010-12-26, 04:04 PM

Check out this TAF from JFK:
KJFK 260231Z 2603/2706 02005KT P6SM OVC070
FM261200 02010KT 6SM -SN OVC015
FM261500 02012G18KT 3SM -SN SCT006 OVC010
FM261800 02018G25KT 1SM -SN BR BKN006 OVC010
FM261900 01025G35KT 1/2SM SN FZFG VV004
FM262100 36028G42KT 1/4SM +SN BLSN FZFG VV003 WS015/01060KT (Snow desk and snow plow time)
FM270500 33023G38KT 1SM -SN BLSN BR VV006 WS020/34050KT

I love how everything just deteriorates as the wind swings around to the NW

And if I remember correctly aren't embedded T-Storms in a blizzard called "Thundersnow" or something like that?

mirrodie

2010-12-26, 04:04 PM

Great so far. Started to snow here at 1020. Cars were already strategically parked.

WAs at Waldbaums at 0930. No joke, the line for the registers in the front stretch around 2 and a half of the store walls. (That means, down the aisle, up the length of an aisle, and then across the back wall of the store. NUTS) I took less than 15 items...was in and out in 7 minutes.

Went to Waldbaums again at....130. Still crowded but no lines. Roads were bad with an inch on the ground. Even with 4WD, you got to be careful.

Derf

2010-12-26, 04:21 PM

Donut's! Donut's! Donut's!

moose135

2010-12-26, 04:34 PM

Be careful, Fred - you already wrapped one car around a pole this year...:wink:

Matt Molnar

2010-12-26, 04:43 PM

LGA is stopped in and out but not officially closed.

KLGA - New York, New York
Updated at 7:51 PM GMT on December 26, 2010 (2:51 PM EST):
METAR KLGA 261951Z 36015G22KT 1/2SM R04/3000V5000FT SN FZFG BKN004 BKN010 OVC015 M02/M04 A2956 RMK AO2 SLP009 P0004 T10221044 $

emshighway

2010-12-26, 06:02 PM

LGA is stopped in and out but not officially closed.

Then the PANYNJ would have to pay.

Gerard

2010-12-26, 06:59 PM

WAs at Waldbaums at 0930. No joke, the line for the registers in the front stretch around 2 and a half of the store walls. (That means, down the aisle, up the length of an aisle, and then across the back wall of the store. NUTS) I took less than 15 items...was in and out in 7 minutes. Went to Waldbaums again at....130. Still crowded but no lines.

ShopRite opens at 7. I was there at 8AM, walked out at 8:01AM abandoning my cart in the middle of fruits/vegetables. It was an absolute zoo. I had enough at home that I didnt need to
put myself through that crap. My wife and daughter went around 3PM and had no problem.
Islander game probably wont be cancelled as Montreal is already in town. Not certain when their charter (FRG?) will depart.
LIRR has 20 minute delays system-wide and might stop altogether if it gets worse. Sucks if I cant get in to work tomorrow as I lose the Xmas holiday pay. You have to work your scheduled day before and after the holiday to get the holiday paid. Might have to bite the bullet on this one.

moose135

2010-12-26, 07:12 PM

Islander game probably wont be cancelled as Montreal is already in town.
Team website says the game is still scheduled, but anyone with tickets who doesn't attend can swap them for a later date this season. In the past when there has been heavy snow they did the same, and I think they also gave some kind of freebie to those who braved the weather and came to the game. I expect about 200 people at the Coliseum tonight.

Matt Molnar

2010-12-26, 07:30 PM

American cancels all flights to and from northeast airports until 10am Monday.

No flights at ISP until noon Monday.

emshighway

2010-12-26, 07:33 PM

American cancels all flights to and from northeast airports until 10am Monday.

No flights at ISP until noon Monday.

AA at LGA saying first outbound at 8:45AM but running 50% capacity.

moose135

2010-12-26, 09:40 PM

I just listened to JFK ATIS - they listed all four runways closed, said the airport is closed, but after all the notices about snow on the runways and taxiways and such, they included "Bird activity in vicinity of airport" :confused:

gonzalu

2010-12-26, 09:44 PM

I was listening to ATC earlier when the storm started and an American Airlines female pilot reported a Father Goose, a Mother Goose, and the ATC said, wait for the kids LOL. Birds aparently don;t care about the weather hahaha

AA 777

2010-12-26, 09:45 PM

According to the FAA OIS site JFK is closed until 5am local tomorrow. Very rare that we actually see JFK shut the door and roll up the carpet.

darlyn

2010-12-26, 09:50 PM

This is neat. I've been hoping for a blizzard lately. A few miles north of EWR at my house visibility looks to be no more than 200ft, making for a really interesting sight that I don't remember witnessing in the last few years. I spent a few minutes waist-deep in snow enjoying the very limited view down my block while listening to the occasional ATC transmissions.

According to the FlightAware data, at JFK in the last few hours a JetBlue E190 and an A320 manged to land, and a Cathay 777 circled for a bit before landing at 6:40. Tower has just announced 4R could be open in 1-2 hours.

Gerard

2010-12-26, 09:56 PM

Team website says the game is still scheduled, but anyone with tickets who doesn't attend can swap them for a later date this season. In the past when there has been heavy snow they did the same, and I think they also gave some kind of freebie to those who braved the weather and came to the game. I expect about 200 people at the Coliseum tonight.

And all Canadien fans!! As usual a huge contingent made the trip down from Montreal!! Going back might not be so easy!!

Matt Molnar

2010-12-26, 10:02 PM

Hearing that EWR and LGA are now closed also, not showing up on FAA site yet.

Matt Molnar

2010-12-26, 10:20 PM

Virgin Atlantic MegaFail

Virgin Atlantic Flight 4, scheduled to depart JFK at 6pm, actually taxied out even though nothing was moving.

They never took off, now there are no gates, and now the plane (an Airbus A340-600) is stuck in the snow. AirTrain is halted, LIRR is effed up, so people are going to have a hard time getting anywhere if they ever do make it back to the terminal. (Subways are okay, cabs are probably around but roads are in rough shape).

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg640/scaled.php?tn=0&server=640&filename=5run.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Writer Jason Cochran (http://twitter.com/#%21/bastable) has been tweeting the ordeal from on board, sounds like a mutiny may be coming:

@bastable
Now we've lost a lavatory!
8 minutes ago

@bastable
@NYCAviation Yeah. Big jolts as the tow trucks fail us.
13 minutes ago

@bastable
@
@nomadicmatt At this point they're all booked. By waiting, we were screwed.
15 minutes ago

@bastable
@NYCAviation Check my tweets: Snowed in on the tarmac! Flt 004. Refused to cancel, now we're stranded out here. Can't get us to gate.
21 minutes ago

@bastable
Since we got stuck on this VA plane, the AirTrain has shut down, subway's stalled, LIRR crippled. Even when we reach the gate, we're stuck.
26 minutes ago

@bastable
@EstherK Hah! That was nothing compared to what was to come.
27 minutes ago

@bastable
@EstherK Awesome! 41A!
39 minutes ago

@bastable
We knew something was fishy when @VirginAtlantic said every flight was cancelled--except ours. So why go? Now look.
39 minutes ago

@bastable
Photo from inside the stranded @VirginAtlantic flight. May be useful later for identifying mutineers: #travel http://yfrog.com/hs5runj
42 minutes ago

@bastable
Lesson for @VirginAtlantic: If you can't fly safely, don't taxi.
48 minutes ago

@bastable
@EstherK No, they taxied! Now we can't move.
51 minutes ago

@bastable
Could be warm at home if only @VirginAtlantic had the sense every other airline had. Now I'm snowed in on JFK tarmac. At least serve drinks!
53 minutes ago

@bastable
Send in the plows.
56 minutes ago

@bastable
Seems like everyone knew planes couldn't fly today. Everyone except @VirginAtlantic. Now we're stranded on tarmac. Oh yes, babies screaming.
1 hour ago

@bastable
We may be stuck out on the JFK tarmac for a long time, hemmed in by snow. You can feel the tow trucks' wheels spinning. 3 hrs on & counting
1 hour ago

@bastable
@MikeTRose The flight was for London.
1 hour ago

@bastable
JFK: So far, grounds crew can't get traction to bring @VirginAtlantic back to gate. 250 of us were dragged out here needlessly & stuck now!
1 hour ago

@bastable
@MikeTRose Yes! It's a huge mess. So irresponsible!
1 hour ago

@bastable
@nomadicmatt They were irresponsible. There was no way. Now I'm marooned on tarmac. Can't even get back home cuz trains are crippled now.
1 hour ago

@bastable
The AC's back on @VirginAtlantic. But that's little comfort to 250 people needlessly dragged out to JFK for obviously impossible flight.
1 hour ago

@bastable
Now JFK @VirginAtlantic flight is stranded on tarmac because so much snow has fallen. Mutiny brewing. This shouldn't have gotten this far.
1 hour ago

@bastable
JFK: @VirginAtlantic flight refuses to cancel early, boards 250, sits on tarmac for 2.5 hours with no AC. THEN cancels. People are furious.
1 hour ago

@bastable
The scene at JFK tonight: #travel #snowpocalypse http://yfrog.com/h72qrrj http://yfrog.com/h7ox8gj http://yfrog.com/h3xdnxyj
3 hours ag

UPDATE: They're free at last after 4.5 hours.

Gerard

2010-12-26, 10:53 PM

Thats one way to put it.:biggrin: Just saw LIRR is SUSPENDED system-wide.
And Moose, 3100 was announced at the Coliseum!!

Zee71

2010-12-26, 10:56 PM

Bad decision by the crew. In my view they should have shut down the airport around 6pm or earlier. The wind is kicking now, and can see squat out the windows.

mirrodie

2010-12-26, 11:49 PM

@ Fred, I did my donut run last year.

got our new SUV and on one of those snowy wednesdays, I hit the mall parking lot and turned off the VSA. What I failed to realize with the new car was that drifting sideways and revving the RPMs while completely turning the steering wheel into it was not good for hte steering pump. it failed 2 days later and the car was barely 3 months old!

All covered under warranty ;)

Gerard

2010-12-26, 11:58 PM

WOW, just was watching News12 Traffic and Weather and they had a camera shot of the Southern State WB at Peninsula Blvd. It is shutdown due to too much snow and there are tons of
cars just sitting there GOING NOWHERE!!! Now that is scary!!
And the wind is howling out there. Just came back in after walking one of my dogs. The other refuses to go out!! LOL he's the smart one!!

UPDATE: Looks like they got the cars moving but I heard they were out there for awhile!!

mirrodie

2010-12-27, 12:04 AM

Sounds pretty ridiculous on the part of the crew.(as it pertains to VA004).

Insane to hear about the Southern State. That is something people will be talking about for years!

Futterman

2010-12-27, 04:09 AM

JFK is doing great. No arrival or departure delays!

I guess that's what a few hundred cancellations will do for an airport...

I've been at work at JFK (crew scheduling) for 13 hours so far and will probably be here for another three before working again 2-10pm. Downline flying is sincerely FUBAR. Actual airplane movement is mostly okay, but our crewmembers position via confirmed commercial tickets which, well, aren't doing anybody any good today.

I'm also here for so long because I can't physically leave. Didn't drive, AirTrain is down, and there is literally three feet of snow blocking the door. And even though the company is putting us up in a hotel room for the night, the shuttle takes 1-2 hours to pick up.

Oy.

cancidas

2010-12-27, 07:38 AM

i made it to work no problem this morning but that doesn't mean it wasn't an interesting drive. took me 30min to get my car dug out, then another 10 to drive down the street. snow drift in the driveway was up to my waist and the street is knee-height. none of the roads in greenpoint have been plowed as yet. the BQE and GCP are just as bad with only one or two lanes passable. abandoned cars are everywhere, even sanitation trucks are stuck in snow drifts. i even picked up some girl walking along the BQE after abandoning her own car. LGA itself is still closed apparently and nothing is moving aside for plows. taxiways and runways are getting cleared slowly and ramps are keeping a close second place. no flying for us until at least 1000L... and i think i'm kissing my california new years plans goodbye.

gonzalu

2010-12-27, 09:01 AM

Wow !!! ATC is still completely silent. I have NEVER [heard] this before LOL.

ISP Pilot

2010-12-27, 09:36 AM

AIRPORT CLOSURES
ARPT TIME REASON REOPEN
ACY 12271300 SNOW 12271700
BDL 12271220 SNOW 12271400
CDW 12260600 SNOW 12272000
EWR 12270303 SNOW/CLSD UFA 12272100
HVN 12270001 SNOW 12272359
ISP 12271300 SNOW 12271800
JFK 12270117 SNOW/CLSD UFA 12272100
LGA 12270900 SNOW/CLSD UFA 12272100
MMU 12270001 SNOW/CLSD UFA 12272359
SWF 12271220 SNOW/CLSD UFA 12272359
TEB 12271300 SNOW 12271500

Can't remember a time when all 3 airports were closed! JFK usually was able to keep at least one runway open during previous storms. Saw numerous diversions last night on flightaware to MDT, AVP, IAD, BDL, ROC, ALB, SYR and a few more. Most interesting one I saw was BA177 LHR-JFK diverted to YUL! I hope affected pax were able to get off the plane and into hotels.

Gerard

2010-12-27, 10:46 AM

When NYC is a mess, especially Manhattan, you KNOW this was a major storm!! Dont think anyone going anywhere today unless its outside to shovel which i will be doing soon!!

Qantas_787

2010-12-27, 11:03 AM

Yup things are crazy on news el al passengers were stuck on the plane on jfks Tarmac for 9 hrs!

I'm stuck I'n dc :( I had 2 delta flts cancelled from Reagan and Bwi to Kennedy- currently just sitting tight waiting for any signs of news and then backlog will be huge..

jerslice

2010-12-27, 11:11 AM

Sitting in Worcester MA...we've got about 6 or 7 inches on the ground (but we're in the 15-20 zone). Seems we're getting out of it so far...the wind is kicking up good though.

NIKV69

2010-12-27, 11:16 AM

Saw an interview with one of the EL Al pax. Said the crew was great, fed them and all was fine. He said may read or used their laptops. Then again a 747 is a bit better than an A320.

gonzalu

2010-12-27, 11:19 AM

Just made it to work... NYC Sanitation Truck got stuck itself trying to plow my street. It was about 1 1/2 feet deep in the center and uphill LOL. I also had to help one of their supervisors who decided it was OK to go out in his Prius... dumb move... Not only is it front wheel drive, it has no Posi Traction (limited slip, and it was really limeted LOL) two Sanitation workers and myself just kept pushing while he stepped on the gas. It was weird having the wheels moving fast and only a slight whine hahaha.

Anyway, things are bad in NYC... The Henry Hudson is open and north of the GWB it is very clean, at least two lanes perfectly clean... drove 65mph no probs. The inner streets, even Broadway, is still pretty snowed in about 2 inches... it has been plowed, but then there is the darn wind...

Our parking lot at work is a 8 story structure, open on all sides... there were cars INSIDE that were totally covered.

@Quantas.. Matt good luck coming to NYC... hopefully you'll make it in time before you have to go back home :-)

HPNPilot1200

2010-12-27, 12:11 PM

TEB is back up with 6/24 plowed, runway 1/19 is still closed but expected to re-open at 1200 local. The major 3 however aren't doing so well, closed with re-open status unknown.

Gerard

2010-12-27, 02:08 PM

TEB is back up with 6/24 plowed, runway 1/19 is still closed but expected to re-open at 1200 local. The major 3 however aren't doing so well, closed with re-open status unknown.

Was out shoveling and a jet flew overhead south to north. White w/black engines. After 12PM. Not sure where he came from.
Wind still howling but sun shining brightly!!

AirtrafficController

2010-12-27, 02:54 PM

Updates on airport re-openings:
Atlantic City Intl (KACY) is currently experiencing an airport closure until Monday at 06:00PM EST due to snow.
Newark Liberty Intl (KEWR) is currently experiencing an airport closure until Monday at 06:00PM EST due to snow.
Long Island Mac Arthur (KISP) is currently experiencing an airport closure until Monday at 05:00PM EST due to snow.
John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) is currently experiencing an airport closure until Monday at 06:00PM EST due to snow.
LaGuardia (KLGA) is currently experiencing an airport closure due to snow.

Gerard

2010-12-27, 03:36 PM

:frown: What about poor little FRG?

Art at ISP

2010-12-27, 04:31 PM

I just saw on the news FRG is reopened. They say 6PM for EWR, JFK and LGA.

Gerard

2010-12-27, 06:08 PM

I just saw on the news FRG is reopened.

Yup just heard 2 "Exec Jets" depart on Tower.
Have to tell you I took a walk in my neighborhood around 315 and the snow is a major pain but damn it looks pretty, Bright sun, blue skies you can really enjoy this wonder of
winter which always looks the best the hours after the storm blows out.

Gerard

2010-12-27, 06:19 PM

, Bright sun, blue skies

And not an aircraft to be seen or heard. Strangely it reminds me of the days after 9/11.

Art at ISP

2010-12-27, 06:27 PM

I took the wife's car to the library--should have checked first- closed ....the only clean road in my area was Vanderbilt Parkway...and on the main street in my development, the guys are dumping snow from driveways right in the street.

My car is still in need of cleaning off, and the daughter's car (92 Roadmaster) is happily buried on the street. I will worry about that one tomorrow because I don't want her driving that in the snow anyway.

Stay safe friends.

eric8669

2010-12-27, 07:04 PM

Lufthansa pilot just called in to get a status on the runway.

Kennedy Ground answered: "Its new, about 200ft wide and its concrete."

AirtrafficController

2010-12-27, 07:24 PM

First arrival into Kennedy is Royal Jordanian H/A342. Landing 31L.

AA 777

2010-12-27, 07:24 PM

JFK opened about 15 minutes ago. Only 31L is open and it sounded like only a few taxiways as well - this should get interesting. RJA261 is the first at the party after some crazy holding in SE CT and over the Island.

Should get fun with only a couple ways to the one runway and everyone wanting to go. Get some popcorn everyone, its going to be a long night

Lrusso

2010-12-27, 07:29 PM

RJA really struggling to taxi it seems.

Here comes Qantas!

eric8669

2010-12-27, 07:31 PM

and the A380 is right behind Qantas.

AA 777

2010-12-27, 07:38 PM

This JFK controller is without a doubt the most entertaining!!

American 2 Heavy, JFK Tower, You are following the SUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPER A380

moose135

2010-12-27, 07:39 PM

Lufthansa pilot just called in to get a status on the runway.

Kennedy Ground answered: "Its new, about 200ft wide and its concrete."
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue. :wink:

eric8669

2010-12-27, 07:42 PM

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue. :wink:

exactly what I was thinking. I think the controller was waiting all day to say that. The controller does sound upbeat though.

Lrusso

2010-12-27, 08:06 PM

261 just made it to the gate.

EDIT: Can't make it in do to snow.

Lrusso

2010-12-27, 08:15 PM

General aviation trying to get in on 31L

adscram14

2010-12-27, 08:18 PM

General aviation trying to get in on 31L
Yep. Divert from Republic due to a disabled aircraft. Oh what a mess.

Idlewild

2010-12-27, 08:19 PM

General aviation trying to get in on 31L

I just heard that as well. Disabled aircraft at Islip.

Idlewild

2010-12-27, 08:20 PM

Yep. Divert from Republic due to a disabled aircraft. Oh what a mess.
Didn't he say the same thing about Islip?

HPNPilot1200

2010-12-27, 08:20 PM

The Command Center is hosting a NY METRO SCHEDULE TELCON at the top of the hour, 0100z (2000 local), to "to discuss how airlines plan to reconstruct their schedules into the New York Metro area tomorrow." Where to begin...

TEB is closed once again, estimating re-opening tomorrow, 12/28 at 1100z (0600 local). Same estimate for EWR according to the ATCSCC.

moose135

2010-12-27, 08:24 PM

Didn't he say the same thing about Islip?
No, he said he was going into FRG, but there was a disable aircraft, and that ISP was closed. It's a G4, btw (the inbound, not the disabled...)

Lrusso

2010-12-27, 08:25 PM

JFK Ground: Snow Team 1 can I hold planes waiting for gates on 22R?
Snow Team 1: Uhh, No.

Lrusso

2010-12-27, 08:36 PM

AND FINALLY RJ 261 into the ramp!
LOL I SPOKE TO SOON THEY TOLD HIM TO HOLD

The G4 wants a progressive taxi!
Lufthansa 4 Tango 9 will be the first departure!

Gerard

2010-12-27, 09:07 PM

Speaking of FRG, New Highway CLOSED from Conklin to Route 109 due to icy roads. Lots of black ice out there. BE CAREFUL ALL!!

USAF Pilot 07

2010-12-27, 09:15 PM

Sounds like a mess! I listened into LiveATC like 2 hours ago when AA24 was on final and landed, and just listened to it real quick and it sounds like they are still taxiing...

Lrusso

2010-12-27, 09:28 PM

Whats going on with this Newark divert?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AEU413

BA just denied him a gate.

USAF Pilot 07

2010-12-27, 09:44 PM

Lrusso

2010-12-27, 10:02 PM

Kennedy Ground getting VERY testy with Air France 6 Super.

Said he would like him in Paris

and now a lufthansa is stuck in the snow

moose135

2010-12-27, 10:09 PM

Sounds like he came from Iceland, diverted to PHL then was supposed to head up to EWR but had to divert to JFK. No one knows know who is going to take care of him at JFK in terms of gate and servicing. Callsign is Flystar 113 or something like that. Sucks to be those pax..
Looks like it is Astraeus Airlines (Flystar 413) flying for Iceland Express. They came in from Keflavik, scheduled into EWR.

There's a vehicle broken down on one of the taxiways - tower asked if Joe Patroni was coming out to move it.

Lrusso

2010-12-27, 10:12 PM

appears to be a Fuel truck that ran out of fuel. :rolleyes:

Did the live atc feed die?

gonzalu

2010-12-27, 11:55 PM

nope has been a lot of fun! :-) Ground is BUSY!!

gonzalu

2010-12-27, 11:58 PM

Bloomberg reported today this is the most snow ever dumped on the north east in December for over 6 decades!

I was out with my daughter last night downtown Manhattan at The Apple Store before coming home... We saw Lightning and Thunder and about what felt like 50-60MPH wind gusts... never in my life have I experienced Lighting/Thunder in snow and those hurricane winds!

Idlewild

2010-12-28, 01:41 AM

Probably not major news, but, it seems JFK is a parking lot. CX 840 was on the radio with Ground (?) begging for a gate. BA is full. In fact all the terminals are full. The best Ground could offer was Terminal 4 with 5 aircraft ahead of her.

gonzalu

2010-12-28, 02:29 AM

Just posted some pics...

http://nycaviation.com/forum/threads/38781-Blizzard-2010-JFK-The-Day-After-%28pictures%29

Idlewild

2010-12-28, 02:37 AM

I'm curious. As of 1:30 AM EST, does anyone know if the Conduit and Atlantic Avenue has been cleared by NYSD in Queens and Brooklyn? Or is everyone relying on the Belt and Van Wyck? Are they clear?

Idlewild

2010-12-28, 02:46 AM

I'm heading to bed. Kudos, btw, to the tower and ground controllers at JFK. They seem to have been handling this mess quite competently considering the circumstances. In between the frequency of reporting wind and braking conditions to arriving and departing flights, and the consistent check ups on aircraft and their passengers waiting for gates or TO slots on the ground, I think this negates all critics who pan these professionals. I only mention JFK because it's my long time favorite and this is what my radio is set on. I have no doubt LGA and EWR have come through with Flying Colors as well.

Gerard

2010-12-28, 11:05 AM

Heard the NY Jets flew into Newburgh last night from Chicago and bussed down to Florham Park, NJ. The Giants spent Sunday and Monday in Wisconsin and hope to get their charter into
Newark sometime today.
On a personal note I'm at home Day 2 with the LIRR still a mess. I use the Hicksville station and they are saying "limited service" on the Huntington & Ronkonkoma lines which go through
Hicksville. But "limited service" means one train per hour, local the whole way slow speeds and extremely crowded. And from what I am hearing and seeing on TV they are having difficulty with that. Luckily I can afford to take these two days off but i need to be back by tomorrow. Might have to drive into Forest Hills, garage the car and take the subway in.
Well could be worse, at least I'm not flying.:smile:

Gerard

2010-12-28, 11:12 AM

. The Giants spent Sunday and Monday in Wisconsin and hope to get their charter into
Newark sometime today.

Actually just saw a Twitter feed that the Giants charter just pulled out of the gate at Appleton Internatioinal in Wisconsin.

Delta777LR

2010-12-28, 01:05 PM

Thats one way to put it.:biggrin: Just saw LIRR is SUSPENDED system-wide.
And Moose, 3100 was announced at the Coliseum!!

The subways in the Bronx were very bad too.. Also many buses stranded.. Monday the trip on Metro North back to Poughkeepsie took my fiance and I about 4 in a half hours to get back because of limited trains.. It appeared that Metro North was using only the diesel trains.. I did noticed how covered the third rail was too..

Gerard

2010-12-28, 02:39 PM

Actually just saw a Twitter feed that the Giants charter just pulled out of the gate at Appleton Internatioinal in Wisconsin.

Landed safely at Newark. Too bad there season hasnt landed safely.

Iberia A340-600

2010-12-28, 02:45 PM

Landed safely at Newark. Too bad there season hasnt landed safely.

A Continental 767-400 did arrive into SWF last night from ORD although I guess it wasn't the Giants charter.

Gerard

2010-12-28, 06:39 PM

A Continental 767-400 did arrive into SWF last night from ORD although I guess it wasn't the Giants charter.

Probably the Jets charter.

Derf

2010-12-28, 06:42 PM

Here is a Pano of the snow
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Photography/Panorama/Snow-pano/1138649761_NFnSJ-XL.jpg

moose135

2010-12-28, 06:46 PM

A Continental 767-400 did arrive into SWF last night from ORD although I guess it wasn't the Giants charter.
That was the Jets - they played in Chicago Sunday.

Gerard

2010-12-28, 07:12 PM

Was watching Eyewitness News tonite and they showed a piece of equipment they use to clear snow off the tracks. An engine from a fighter jet!!

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=weather&id=7865543

eric8669

2010-12-28, 09:06 PM

Its just crazy, I've been listening to Tower/ground for the past hour, every aircraft that lands has atleast a 2 hour wait for a gate.

Iberia A340-600

2010-12-28, 09:10 PM

That was the Jets - they played in Chicago Sunday.

Whoops, I got my football teams confused. Thanks for clearing that up. The aircraft didn't return to EWR until a few hours ago.

hiss srq

2010-12-28, 11:35 PM

No doubt that this storm was intense.. Me and a fellow member were in the tower when the storm started.. I took a bunch of pics which I will eventually get around to posting... Monday morning I started trying to get to JFK from Long Beach and finally gave up at 0930 or so. It is dangerous out there. We still have not been plowed down on the bay side... At one point I offered a cab 300 to get me to JFK and the guy refused... When a Russian refuses money you know it is bad

BabiBlue49

2010-12-29, 06:51 PM

So concerned - I've been looking at the ROC to JFK flights today, and the same flight today as I'm taking tomorrow (Delta 6052) is delayed 3 hours. I HAVE to make a connection at JFK tomorrow. Would it be best to just take alternative transportation to JFK from ROC? What is the likelihood of the same situation tomorrow? I'm very worried, as this is my second attempt to make this trip, and really am in need of knowledgeable advice.

moose135

2010-12-29, 07:31 PM

Here's a variety of photos from the past few days...

Sunday afternoon, about 1:30pm, it was snowing about 2 hours at this point.

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101226Snowstorm001/1140867341_jKxfB-L.jpg

About 4pm Sunday:

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101226Snowstorm002/1140867478_HndsZ-L.jpg

Monday morning at Midnight:

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101227Snowstorm001/1140865814_gSRk9-L.jpg

Monday morning, around 9:30am:

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101227Snowstorm004/1140866205_oKDmW-L.jpg

And my neighbor's back yard:

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101227Snowstorm005/1140866320_GvGbi-L.jpg

The magic of a snowblower:

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101227Snowstorm007/1140866644_TaqgX-L.jpg

Republic Airport, Tuesday morning:

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101228FRG001/1140865695_anViX-L.jpg

Planting Fields Arboretum this afternoon (Wednesday):

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101229PlantingFields001/1140865439_cPZdn-L.jpg

Coe Hall at Planting Fields:

http://moose135.smugmug.com/Long-Island/Christmas-Weekend-Blizzard/JM20101229PlantingFields002/1140865634_7ieag-L.jpg