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Derf
2010-05-22, 08:30 PM
Lets see your tips for the newbies, oldies and everyone in between!

When you hand your camera to someone else....always make sure it is in P mode!!!
:lol:

(and when you get it back say "Sh!t, it is the camera and not me!" and shake your head
in disgust as you walk away) They like that!



#2 Do not let yourself be limited by what others believe you cannot do....

moose135
2010-05-22, 08:37 PM
Check your ISO before you start shooting for the day.

Fighting_falcon_51
2010-05-22, 08:45 PM
Check your ISO before you start shooting for the day.

I learned that the hard way today when I was at FRG. I was too busy messing with the shutterspeed. It'll never happen again!

Example:
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9376/dscf2378.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/dscf2378.jpg/)

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Derf
2010-05-22, 08:50 PM
Holy crap!!! Look at that prop blur!!!!! Sweet :borat:

P.S. That is the best way to learn ;) (I wish I had a nickel for
every time I have done it!)

Fighting_falcon_51
2010-05-22, 08:51 PM
Holy crap!!! Look at that prop blur!!!!! Sweet :borat:
At least I got something right :lol: :lol:

wunaladreamin
2010-05-22, 09:00 PM
Lots of trial and error brother! And never be afraid to ask. 95% of what I know I learned by opening up my big yap and asking the others here.

Derf
2010-05-22, 09:08 PM
95% of what I learned I found out by doing it wrong 99% of the time! :lol:

Fighting_falcon_51
2010-05-22, 09:10 PM
Haha. Well since next week is AS week I take a ton of photo's with different settings and such and see how they come out.

wunaladreamin
2010-05-22, 09:19 PM
I know you're shooting Fuji which is a more capable sensor dressed in Nikon clothes. Shoot at ISO100 or ISO200. For jets, shoot in aperture priority at f8. For props, shoot in shutter priority and use some of the internittent Cessnas and Pipers as test subjects to find whidh shutter speed to shoot without blurring the plane to hell (generally 1/120 and up). Keep the settings saved in the camera so when you need to change modes on the quick, it's just a twist of a dial and fire.

Derf
2010-05-22, 09:23 PM
I agree with everything but the speed for props, I would go with 250th of a second for 2 reasons. 1, it gives you enough blur to make it look in motion and not standing still. 2, it is faster so you get less throw away shots (especially since he is new and does not have IS like me) If it is standing still and not "flying by" I would try to go a little lower with the shutter speed and when an aircraft is at idle it is nice to go slow...but do not go too slow or you will have LOTS of throw away shots. I would know, I have a ton of missed shots! ;)

wunaladreamin
2010-05-22, 09:26 PM
I stand corrected! See! I'm still trying to fine tune things myself! Lol. Never stop learning man!

Derf
2010-05-22, 09:33 PM
Check your ISO before you start shooting for the day.

I learned that the hard way today when I was at FRG. I was too busy messing with the shutterspeed. It'll never happen again!

Example:
After playing with the levels in your photos and applying an anti blur filter to clean up the image...You did have a nice amount of blur on it! VERY NICELY DONE!!! :borat:
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/875498776_UYsFH-L.jpg

lijk604
2010-05-23, 04:29 PM
Always check that your White Balance is set correctly before you start an important shoot. (Like on Sunday at the air show, after using a custom WB on Saturday night to get rid of the orange glow).

Derf
2010-05-23, 04:43 PM
Ahahah I think we all do that EVERY YEAR!!!! :lol:

gpalz1
2010-05-23, 06:23 PM
Example: [/quote]
After playing with the levels in your photos and applying an anti blur filter to clean up the image...You did have a nice amount of blur on it! VERY NICELY DONE!!! :borat:
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/875498776_UYsFH-L.jpg[/quote]


That is amazing! If you don't mind me asking, what anti blur filter did you use? Was it a third party plugin? George.

moose135
2010-05-23, 08:14 PM
Always check that your White Balance is set correctly before you start an important shoot. (Like on Sunday at the air show, after using a custom WB on Saturday night to get rid of the orange glow).
That's why I shoot Raw...


That is amazing! If you don't mind me asking, what anti blur filter did you use? Was it a third party plugin? George.
Reel him on in, Fred, reel him on in...
http://www.moose135photography.com/Long-Island/Fire-Island-Robert-Moses-State/JM20070520Captree009/154645791_SuGmi-M-2.jpg

Derf
2010-05-23, 09:24 PM
Example:
After playing with the levels in your photos and applying an anti blur filter to clean up the image...You did have a nice amount of blur on it! VERY NICELY DONE!!! :borat:
[/quote]That is amazing! If you don't mind me asking, what anti blur filter did you use? Was it a third party plugin? George.[/quote]

Sorry George, I was just playing.... I was standing right next to him and figured that 20 people would have called me on the BS. You can fix grain and noise well with noise ninja, blur is forever.

Fighting_falcon_51
2010-05-23, 09:32 PM
It was still pretty funny though! :lol: :lol: :lol:

gpalz1
2010-05-23, 10:13 PM
Hook Line and Sinker! :D

I've been using PS since v4 and thought I was missing something for all these years! You guys are good.

Cary
2010-05-24, 07:15 PM
Tip #1: Don't pay an exorbitant amount of money to take pictures of something, only to be told what you can and can't do with your photos.
Tip #2: Back up your images!

Derf
2010-05-24, 09:11 PM
tip one check
tip two, backing up Oracle flight photos now! :lol: :borat:

Cary
2010-05-24, 09:32 PM
tip one check
tip two, backing up Oracle flight photos now! :lol: :borat:

Tip #3: Steal Fred's Oracle flight photos and claim as your own.

emshighway
2010-05-24, 09:37 PM
Example:
After playing with the levels in your photos and applying an anti blur filter to clean up the image...You did have a nice amount of blur on it! VERY NICELY DONE!!! :borat:
That is amazing! If you don't mind me asking, what anti blur filter did you use? Was it a third party plugin? George.[/quote]

Sorry George, I was just playing.... I was standing right next to him and figured that 20 people would have called me on the BS. You can fix grain and noise well with noise ninja, blur is forever.[/quote]

LOL, if it is FRG he has a shot of it. Wasn't the different background a giveaway.

Derf
2010-05-24, 11:07 PM
LOL, if it is FRG he has a shot of it. Wasn't the different background a giveaway.

Don't make me pull out one with the same backround! :lol:

lijk604
2010-05-25, 08:40 AM
LOL, if it is FRG he has a shot of it. Wasn't the different background a giveaway.

Don't make me pull out one with the same backround! :lol:

...because we all know Fred has one shot from every conceivable angle. :borat:

Skymonster
2010-06-02, 11:57 AM
Lets see your tips for the newbies, oldies and everyone in between!

1. Learn about when its not worth taking a picture, as well as about how to take a good picture

2. Everyone takes crap pictures from time to time - but the "good" photographers don't show anyone their crap pictures!

Andy

NIKV69
2010-06-02, 02:57 PM
Lets see your tips for the newbies, oldies and everyone in between!

1. Learn about when its not worth taking a picture, as well as about how to take a good picture

2. Everyone takes crap pictures from time to time - but the "good" photographers don't show anyone their crap pictures!

Andy

Epic! LOLOL

Only thing I can say is Kenny is right, ton of trial and error. Buy books, read, experiment. Learn how your camera works and use all the settings. Don't let the camera do the work, your the photographer.

moose135
2010-06-02, 06:32 PM
2. Everyone takes crap pictures from time to time - but the "good" photographers don't show anyone their crap pictures!
I shot over 4,700 pictures over five days surrounding the Jones Beach air show - people will see a couple hundred at most.

Derf
2010-06-02, 07:04 PM
I took 17,543 pictures this past airshow and I only have 1 shot that is worth while!
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/887875102_CbEH7-L.jpg
:lol: :wink:

Fighting_falcon_51
2010-06-02, 07:27 PM
pfft. I took 400 and I'm still sorting through mine! Hopefully I'll have the nice ones up by Friday night.

Derf
2010-06-02, 07:43 PM
pfft. I took 400 and I'm still sorting through mine! Hopefully I'll have the nice ones up by Friday night.

I will be done tomorrow :lol: :wink:

Fighting_falcon_51
2010-06-02, 08:47 PM
pfft. I took 400 and I'm still sorting through mine! Hopefully I'll have the nice ones up by Friday night.

I will be done tomorrow :lol: :wink:
Lots of Red Bull and coffee?

mirrodie
2010-06-02, 10:57 PM
Lots of great info here...ditto on most!

1.Also, it doesnt matter what camera you have. A large part depends on the photographer. I feel its such a waste when folks buy a mid level Canon or Nikon, only to shoot in auto modes and never to venture in Av or shutter priority or P modes. A point and shoot would have served them better. IN other words, again, LEARN the camera.

2. Be open to criticism and enjoy the diversity the hobby has to offer. A HUGE Kudos to Eric who leads in this arena, transitioning from Air to portraits to tennis to horseracing.

3. Dont be afraid to find your own style. I know this hobby began with 50mm side on shots and I'm been known to rip others for only shooting side ons.. I don't love these but enjoy 3/4 angles.
But who am I to rip anyone else? Our individual styles is partially what brings this community together.

4. To echo Cary, yes, I feel its pretty deplorable to be asked to pay for a photo op and then have to kowtow for how I might use them.. The younger kids here won't understand this, but y'all can KISS MY GRITS. :wink:

5. Check that damn ISO. blur and wrong ISO are irreparable.

I know I have more but im hot and cranky right now.

THanks to you all so much over the years for sharing the knowledge

eric8669
2010-06-02, 11:10 PM
Lots of great info here...ditto on most!

1.Also, it doesnt matter what camera you have. A large part depends on the photographer. I feel its such a waste when folks buy a mid level Canon or Nikon, only to shoot in auto modes and never to venture in Av or shutter priority or P modes. A point and shoot would have served them better. IN other words, again, LEARN the camera.

2. Be open to criticism and enjoy the diversity the hobby has to offer. A HUGE Kudos to Eric who leads in this arena, transitioning from Air to portraits to tennis to horseracing.

3. Dont be afraid to find your own style. I know this hobby began with 50mm side on shots and I'm been known to rip others for only shooting side ons.. I don't love these but enjoy 3/4 angles.
But who am I to rip anyone else? Our individual styles is partially what brings this community together.

4. To echo Cary, yes, I feel its pretty deplorable to be asked to pay for a photo op and then have to kowtow for how I might use them.. The younger kids here won't understand this, but y'all can KISS MY GRITS. :wink:

5. Check that damn ISO. blur and wrong ISO are irreparable.

I know I have more but im hot and cranky right now.

THanks to you all so much over the years for sharing the knowledge

Thanks Mario, I really appreciate your words....

1. Never shoot in Automatic. I shot the whole airshow in manual.

2. take your camera everywhere

3. Actually today I learned its ok to shoot at ISO 1600.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4664745142_c291a36f3b_b.jpg

Johnathaneric
2010-06-03, 02:53 AM
Remember to always have charged batteries with you as backup and to make sure the ones in your camera is charged...... Also always reformat your cards......

I took about 7000 RAW shots from the airshow weekend and still going threw them....
I think will order a tanker truck full of HOT coffee....

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4663127457_dd3ac7660e_b.jpg

NIKV69
2010-06-03, 04:03 PM
I shot the whole airshow in manual.



I tried manual one day at LAS and never looked back. Much better results. You have to work harder but it sure pays off.