PIA introduces a new livery!!

[Delta777LR]

I just took a look at historyofpia.com and discovered that PIA has adopt a new livery. The first aircraft (AP-BFW) a Boeing 743 is to be the first plane to wear the new livery.. Its currently in heavy maintenance..

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/Picture003-1.jpg

[SengaB]

From that image it looks like a slight improvement over the current (revised new colors) colors. I think I can look forward to seeing this eventually.
I wish they would have went for gold instead of the yellow. Its a massive improvement over the original new colors though. I hope they bring the green down to cover the whole tail so it doesn't have that wavy flag look.
http://www.historyofpia.com/rt_30.jpg

Senga

[Mayi757]

Ok this is a trick.

Once again, please.. no new scheme here just an update, in this case however, for the better. Too bad it's still obvious they copied El Al. But if one looks closely, they might have gotten the yellow from Magnicharters:

http://www.jetphotos.net/news/media/userfiles/7570984542.jpg.400.jpg

Aren't these countries so proud of being Islamic? How about taking out the stupid sand color and painting it green lol? Really, green is a much nicer color.

Glad that "pirate flag" on the tail will be gone though, good riddance. Was one of the ugliest liveries around.

[NLovis]

Wonder if that 743 will come to JFK once its out of the hanger

[SengaB]

Unfortunately PIA's 747s are banned from flying to the US now. The used to fly here but stopped around 2005.
Senga

[NLovis]

Unfortunately PIA's 747s are banned from flying to the US now. The used to fly here but stopped around 2005.
Senga
Huh why are they banned?

[Tom_Turner]

Were they combis?

[Iberia A340-600]

Unfortunately PIA's 747s are banned from flying to the US now. The used to fly here but stopped around 2005.
Senga
Huh why are they banned?

Safety concerns. They were also banned in Europe but that apparently has now been lifted.

[SengaB]

I know that B742s were. You can see the cargo door in this shot.
http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/4/2/0/86869_1041385024.jpg

Senga

[Delta777LR]

I know that B742s were. You can see the cargo door in this shot.
http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/4/2/0/86869_1041385024.jpg

Senga


That was the same bird I cought back in 2006! I thought the 747s were banned in 2007, they still had the 743 coming to JFK

[NLovis]

If they have the 747's banned why are they allowing the 777's in?

[Iberia A340-600]

If they have the 747's banned why are they allowing the 777's in?

Because they are more modern aircraft with a better maintenance record.

[NLovis]

If they have the 747's banned why are they allowing the 777's in?

Because they are more modern aircraft with a better maintenance record.
Yesh picky. 743's get flown in pretty often and bah i lost my train of thought xD

[SengaB]

To Build on what Gordon said,
FAA and its counterparts can ban types of planes instead of a whole airline. If it has been found that up keep, Maintenance or general operations are not up to FAA standards for a type of plane under an airline they can ban a type of plane from flying into the US.

Senga

[Tom_Turner]

Another Swoosh, but I like this one... not much in the way of "yellow" in liveries at JFK... good for the variety.

Tom

[mirrodie]

I'm liking this new Swoosh too!

Great Mario's think alike, as I too immediately saw the similarity to El AL! ;)

I found it ironic considering the relationship those 2 governments have.

FAO NLovis, yes I do recall reading about PIAs 747s banned into the US too, only that airline and type. IT was quite specific. I hope what Gordon said was true, that it was lifted in Europe and perhaps that may also happen here in the US

[NLovis]

I'm liking this new Swoosh too!

Great Mario's think alike, as I too immediately saw the similarity to El AL! ;)

I found it ironic considering the relationship those 2 governments have.

FAO NLovis, yes I do recall reading about PIAs 747s banned into the US too, only that airline and type. IT was quite specific. I hope what Gordon said was true, that it was lifted in Europe and perhaps that may also happen here in the US
Hope so as well. We dont get enough 747's at JFK. And the term currently in Heavy Maintence i'm hoping is them stepping it up so it gets lifted here in the US

[Iberia A340-600]

The EU completely lifted the ban in March of 2007, which included the 747-300 fleet and the A310 fleet. The A310 has become a frequent visitor to some European destinations but the most recent visit of the 747 was to LIS last summer on a charter flight. Because of the better product offered on the 777 fleet I imagine PIA does not see it a fit aircraft to operate on their key routes to Europe anymore, let alone to the US.

[NLovis]

The EU completely lifted the ban in March of 2007, which included the 747-300 fleet and the A310 fleet. The A310 has become a frequent visitor to some European destinations but the most recent visit of the 747 was to LIS last summer on a charter flight. Because of the better product offered on the 777 fleet I imagine PIA does not see it a fit aircraft to operate on their key routes to Europe anymore, let alone to the US.
so why are they keeping it?

[Iberia A340-600]

The EU completely lifted the ban in March of 2007, which included the 747-300 fleet and the A310 fleet. The A310 has become a frequent visitor to some European destinations but the most recent visit of the 747 was to LIS last summer on a charter flight. Because of the better product offered on the 777 fleet I imagine PIA does not see it a fit aircraft to operate on their key routes to Europe anymore, let alone to the US.
so why are they keeping it?

To use them on flights within Pakistan and to other destinations in the Middle East and India. The 747-300 made a rare appearance in MAN last week:

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6806296&nseq=16

[Speedbird1]

I agree that it doesn't make sense that B777s are allowed but B742s are banned. Also, the best PIA livery was in the 80's. There was a gold cheatline in the center of the aircraft and a royal green on the tail.

[Iberia A340-600]

I agree that it doesn't make sense that B777s are allowed but B742s are banned. Also, the best PIA livery was in the 80's. There was a gold cheatline in the center of the aircraft and a royal green on the tail.

First off, PIA only has 1 747-200 left in their fleet, the rest are -300s. It does make sense that the 777s would be allowed since they are much more modern aircraft with a better maintenance record.

Here is a link to the first picture of a 747-300 now painted in the revised scheme:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?i ... r5PRR.jpeg (http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=3281&filename=phpLr5PRR.jpeg)

[Mayi757]

Nice find, still looks ugly. One of the rare cases where eurowhite was better.

[Iberia A340-600]

The livery has now been applied to a 777-200 so keep an eye out at JFK:

http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.m ... picid=6385 (http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=6385)

Looks pretty gross on the 777 IMO.

[NLovis]

Track that tail #! If i'm making this out right XP-O?GK

[SengaB]

That would be AP-BGK.
Glad to see they brought back the "Pakistan International" titles below the PIA.

Senga

[Mayi757]

I was looking at the shot on Skyliner Iberia posted.

My thought was the 90's livery was simpler and still looked so much better than this. Same thing with the 1980s scheme.

Sometimes fashion, sucks.

[Mayi757]

Great Mario's think alike, as I too immediately saw the similarity to El AL! ;)

I found it ironic considering the relationship those 2 governments have.

..and it's not because of telepathy

PIA is govt owned right?

[Mayi757]

To Build on what Gordon said,
FAA and its counterparts can ban types of planes instead of a whole airline. If it has been found that up keep, Maintenance or general operations are not up to FAA standards for a type of plane under an airline they can ban a type of plane from flying into the US.

Senga

Well the FAA can be a real b**** pardon the expression, when it wants to, especially when it comes to 3rd world nations. The FAA made a big fuss about a Biman DC-10 being unsafe and made it divert to Canada. Canadian authorities found the plane to be perfectly airworthy and all the FAA did was issue an apology. Biman then pulled the NY route and who can blame them. What's ironic is WN, AA, UA, NW etc all have been caught flying aircraft in conditions that were unsafe.

[Matt Molnar]

PIA is govt owned right?
Yep, run by the Ministry of Defence, actually.

Plans to privatize were dropped last year.

[NLovis]

That would be AP-BGK.
Glad to see they brought back the "Pakistan International" titles below the PIA.

Senga
Thank you senga. Hard to read a blurry shot.

[Iberia A340-600]

The first 777-300ER has been painted:

http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.m ... picid=6399 (http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=6399)

[SengaB]

Wow they are not wasting anytime with the new colors.

Senga

[Mayi757]

Ethnic tails were attractive and distracted my attention from the fuselage looking like it was dipped in puke. Yes I feel the same way, yuck lol...

The new tail reminds me of Halloween.

[mirrodie]

So looks like we will see it in JFK?

[mirrodie]

BTW, this came into JFK on Monday

[Speedbird1]

I saw a PIA B777 bearing one of the provincial tail designs last week at JFK. I think it was the Sindh livery and said "Colours of the Desert". It was more attractive than the waving flag design I saw yesterday.

[Glapics]

Managed to grab a picture of Their A310 At Glasgow in the new colour scheme ,looks like its the only one wearing it at the moment

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/image86648.html

Kevin