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Matt Molnar
2010-03-19, 02:20 AM
Speculation from an earlier thread (http://nycaviation.com/forum/qantas-changes-jfk-to-an-a330-for-2010-t16982.html) is now official.

No more Wunala or any other Qantas 747s as of July 5th Australia time. This probably means the last one will leave Australia on July 4th, arriving at JFK on the 5th.

JFK service reduced to 5x weekly, all on two class A332.

This is a major cut in capacity, about 1075 seats weekly.

Will update with final flight info as it comes in.

NLovis
2010-03-19, 03:03 AM
RATS. Thats the worst news we can ever hear as spotters. No more Wunala :cry:

seahawks7757
2010-03-19, 03:06 AM
So wait doesn't this mean that they will have a fre A330's based in LAX then? I mean the A330 can't do YSSY-KLAX or can it? :shock:

NLovis
2010-03-19, 03:08 AM
So wait doesn't this mean that they will have a fre A330's based in LAX then? I mean the A330 can't do YSSY-KLAX or can it? :shock:
dude it doesnt matter. Were losing Wunala. Shes being replaced by a very unattractive bus :cry:

seahawks7757
2010-03-19, 03:10 AM
Ah she is due to retire soon enough :P Would be great to see her on the 747-8! :borat:

NLovis
2010-03-19, 03:13 AM
Ah she is due to retire soon enough :P Would be great to see her on the 747-8! :borat:
I doubt she is retiring anytime within the next year. Yea they are replacing their 747 fleet but Wunala will be the last one to go. But were losing her before that. I hope they send her in again before they shift to these busses. I would love to see a 3rd Dreaming. I would lvoe to see it on a 747-8 but sadly Qantas doesnt have any orders in for the 747-8.

seahawks7757
2010-03-19, 03:34 AM
not yet, but I think it will be in there future when the program is fully developed and stabalized. I think there fear was a similar 787 delay saga happening to this program as well.

eric8669
2010-03-19, 05:18 AM
Speculation from an earlier thread (http://nycaviation.com/forum/qantas-changes-jfk-to-an-a330-for-2010-t16982.html) is now official.

No more Wunala or any other Qantas 747s as of July 5th Australia time. This probably means the last one will leave Australia on July 4th, arriving at JFK on the 5th.

JFK service reduced to 5x weekly, all on two class A332.

This is a major cut in capacity, about 1075 seats weekly.

Will update with final flight info as it comes in.


I was looking at the Qantas Schedule for August. It shows a mix of A330 and 747 service for NY.

PhilDernerJr
2010-03-19, 06:04 AM
Aren't there a couple cool A330 schemes though?

And, oh, I still don't have Wunala. I better get on it.

Delta777LR
2010-03-19, 07:36 AM
I need wunala!!!! :evil:

T-Bird76
2010-03-19, 09:59 AM
Aren't there a couple cool A330 schemes though?

And, oh, I still don't have Wunala. I better get on it.

Phil as a birthday gift to you, you can have some of my Wunula shots ;) LOLOL Interestingly enough I've captured her plenty of times but never at JFK.

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/4/2/6/45448_1227487624.jpg

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/3/7/0/74958_1214017073.jpg

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/6/9/3/67332_1164381396.jpg

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/5/9/6/25817_1144097695.jpg

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/8/0/2/51368_1142673208.jpg

Iberia A340-600
2010-03-19, 10:24 AM
Aren't there a couple cool A330 schemes though?

And, oh, I still don't have Wunala. I better get on it.

Phil, unfortunately the only A330 scheme is a -200 in the OneWorld colors.

The schedule will be as following:


QF107 LAX0900 – 1725JFK 332 x24
QF108 JFK1855 – 2210LAX 332 x24

They way it will work is QF25/26 will be an A330 to LAX from AKL and QF107/108 will be a 747-400 to LAX from SYD.

http://airlineroute.net/2010/03/18/qf-a ... more-18465 (http://airlineroute.net/2010/03/18/qf-akllaxjfk/#more-18465)

NIKV69
2010-03-19, 10:41 AM
Phil has been playing too much hockey! Glad I got her twice at JFK. Hey official post your Wunala pics hijack time!

1249172

Was great that I didn't even know she was coming.

eric8669
2010-03-19, 11:15 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/20100301-IMG_3085.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/20100218-IMG_2760.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/wunala_030309a.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/vh-oej_Qantas_747_lax_111508a.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/IMG_2867.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/IMG_1969.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/20050123-vh-oej_Qantas_747_lax_0122.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/20060806-vh-oej_Qantas_747_jfk_0806.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/vh--oej_Qantas_747_jfk_062007_6_1a.jpg

mirrodie
2010-03-19, 01:28 PM
NLovis, do you have a source that Wunala would be LAST to go??



and TOM, you ARE getting old. You did catch Wunala with me, your first time on the ramp.

T-Bird76
2010-03-19, 01:41 PM
NLovis, do you have a source that Wunala would be LAST to go??



and TOM, you ARE getting old. You did catch Wunala with me, your first time on the ramp.

Oh yeah.....lol Wow its looks like everyone but Phil has Wunala. Spotter FAIL! :twisted: ;)

mirrodie
2010-03-19, 02:10 PM
You see, Phil? Age is only a number. Tom is older than both of us combined! pendejo viejo! LOL :wink:

Tom, you need to hit those fish oils!

Matt Molnar
2010-03-19, 02:35 PM
I haven't shot Wunala either. I guess it would help if I ventured out to JFK more than twice a year.

T-Bird76
2010-03-19, 02:49 PM
You see, Phil? Age is only a number. Tom is older than both of us combined! pendejo viejo! LOL :wink:

Tom, you need to hit those fish oils!

I remember...but the light blew since it was dark.

lijk604
2010-03-19, 03:10 PM
Hell, even I got a shot of her!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4381007376_51d2a46683.jpg

hiss srq
2010-03-19, 03:52 PM
I've yet to shoot her. Than again I am the laziest spotter on the planet. If it doesnt come over the roof or to me than I probably wont shoot it. LOL

moose135
2010-03-19, 08:32 PM
OK, I'll join the fun...

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Airliners-and-Airport-Spotting/Kennedy-Airport/JM20091004VH-OEJ001/670255135_kafkt-L.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Airliners-and-Airport-Spotting/Kennedy-Airport/JM20090303VH-OEJ001/484772145_EwDMJ-L.jpg

MarkLawrence
2010-03-19, 08:41 PM
Crap - I need to take a trip to NY for Wunala - all I have is at 10,000' over the JFK VOR on the way to 13R.

ahhhh...wait - memory kicking in....I remember this - Kenny - Oh crap - will I make the customs building before she lands - giving Nick V his borrowed battery back - cursing about little juice in the battery - then speeding away..next morning - shivering in the cold at Bayswater - I got her - but the #$%#$#%$ was backlit :)

NLovis
2010-03-20, 12:39 AM
NLovis, do you have a source that Wunala would be LAST to go??



and TOM, you ARE getting old. You did catch Wunala with me, your first time on the ramp.
No source but I keep saying "I think". Seriously though think about it. They keep Wunala really clean take really good care of her and shes always in tip top shape. Because of that I personally think she will be the last to go. Though it would be between EB "Philip Island", JS "Socceroo" and our fav EJ "Wunala Dreaming"

seahawks7757
2010-03-20, 03:38 AM
I need to get to LAX to hope to get her.

Iberia A340-600
2010-03-20, 07:04 AM
NLovis, do you have a source that Wunala would be LAST to go??



and TOM, you ARE getting old. You did catch Wunala with me, your first time on the ramp.
No source but I keep saying "I think". Seriously though think about it. They keep Wunala really clean take really good care of her and shes always in tip top shape. Because of that I personally think she will be the last to go. Though it would be between EB "Philip Island", JS "Socceroo" and our fav EJ "Wunala Dreaming"

More logically speaking, Wunala is the newest 747 in the Qantas fleet and one of six -400ERs.

NLovis
2010-03-20, 10:46 AM
NLovis, do you have a source that Wunala would be LAST to go??



and TOM, you ARE getting old. You did catch Wunala with me, your first time on the ramp.
No source but I keep saying "I think". Seriously though think about it. They keep Wunala really clean take really good care of her and shes always in tip top shape. Because of that I personally think she will be the last to go. Though it would be between EB "Philip Island", JS "Socceroo" and our fav EJ "Wunala Dreaming"

More logically speaking, Wunala is the newest 747 in the Qantas fleet and one of six -400ERs.
Just because its an ER means nothing. VH-OED was a ER and it was 1/3 that they dropped a few months ago.

wunaladreamin
2010-03-20, 12:07 PM
Mark, good times sir! Good times!
Here's my tribute to her.
http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/3/0/5/71995_1219878503.jpg

It is something new to shoot. Not for nothing, but if it couldn't be the B747, I'd prefer the A330. While the B747 will always be the single most majestic bird in the skies, the lines on the A330 are so sleek that the bird almost screams "Hot Rod." It could be worse, they could have ordered B77W's and sent them here.

Iberia A340-600
2010-03-20, 02:42 PM
Actually Nick, -OED was delivered to Malaysia Airlines in 1991 as a 9M-MHO and IS NOT an ER. When it was delivered to Qantas in 1998 they just kept the GE engines. The fact that Wunala is an ER DOES mean something since the aircraft have the extra range.

wunaladreamin
2010-03-20, 03:53 PM
Gordon's right. Same applies to B747-4H6 VH-OEC (former MH 9M-MHN and non-ER) and B747-48E VH-OEB (former OZ HL7416 and non-ER).

hiss srq
2010-03-20, 04:06 PM
Just throwing it out there............ Rats!......

NLovis
2010-03-21, 12:08 AM
Gordon's right. Same applies to B747-4H6 VH-OEC (former MH 9M-MHN and non-ER) and B747-48E VH-OEB (former OZ HL7416 and non-ER).
Yea I know EB isnt an ER but they did paint it in OW colors so i'm figuring it to be one of the last. Note they havent painted any 747's aside from EB and JS.

Iberia A340-600
2010-03-21, 12:33 AM
Gordon's right. Same applies to B747-4H6 VH-OEC (former MH 9M-MHN and non-ER) and B747-48E VH-OEB (former OZ HL7416 and non-ER).
Yea I know EB isnt an ER but they did paint it in OW colors so i'm figuring it to be one of the last. Note they havent painted any 747's aside from EB and JS.

Well, you didn't seem to think that -OED wasn't and -OEB is in the same situation. Just because they painted -OEB in the revised scheme, then in the One World, and now in a new scheme doesn't really mean much. -OEB will be retired in due time seeing as it was a second hand acquirement in their fleet and is older then most 747s. Like I mentioned before, your best argument for why Wunala will be one of the last 747s retired is because it is the newest 747 in Qantas' fleet. End of story hombre.

NLovis
2010-03-21, 12:54 AM
Gordon's right. Same applies to B747-4H6 VH-OEC (former MH 9M-MHN and non-ER) and B747-48E VH-OEB (former OZ HL7416 and non-ER).
Yea I know EB isnt an ER but they did paint it in OW colors so i'm figuring it to be one of the last. Note they havent painted any 747's aside from EB and JS.

Well, you didn't seem to think that -OED wasn't and -OEB is in the same situation. Just because they painted -OEB in the revised scheme, then in the One World, and now in a new scheme doesn't really mean much. -OEB will be retired in due time seeing as it was a second hand acquirement in their fleet and is older then most 747s. Like I mentioned before, your best argument for why Wunala will be one of the last 747s retired is because it is the newest 747 in Qantas' fleet. End of story hombre.
Eh you forget JS. THE WAR ISNT OVER YET! :lol:

Iberia A340-600
2010-03-21, 01:08 AM
So? VH-OJS just happened to be painted in the revised scheme because it went in for some routine check. The Qantas 747 fleet will be completely retired eventually as they receive more A380s and at some point the 787. As per which 747s are retired in what order is completely up to Qantas and something we do not know and can merely contemplate. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the 747 returns JFK in the near future.

NLovis
2010-03-21, 01:36 AM
So? VH-OJS just happened to be painted in the revised scheme because it went in for some routine check. The Qantas 747 fleet will be completely retired eventually as they receive more A380s and at some point the 787. As per which 747s are retired in what order is completely up to Qantas and something we do not know and can merely contemplate. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the 747 returns JFK in the near future.
JS is socceroo. They didnt paint it just cause it was in a hanger. I know it will be over time. I hope your right on that Iberia. I would love Wunala to return.

Mayi757
2010-03-23, 11:09 PM
A330s are invading transatlantic and now transpacific routes too RATAS INMUNDAS!

Didn't even see the mating Kangaroo scheme during my 2 trips to JFK.

I expected maybe I'll have a chance someday at LAX, but this invasion of A330 is gonna make it harder.

mirrodie
2010-03-23, 11:20 PM
@ Nlovis and Iberia: ladies, please. you're both beautiful.

@ Mati, mating Kangarooo???? What did I miss?

Mayi757
2010-03-25, 04:25 PM
@ Nlovis and Iberia: ladies, please. you're both beautiful.

@ Mati, mating Kangarooo???? What did I miss?

Three Kangaroos chasing after each other into the other side of the plane that's not visible. Use your imagination..

Another observation, the flying tobacco aka flying snorkel aka A340-600 is everything except beautiful (just telling the truth)

NLovis
2010-03-25, 05:40 PM
A330s are invading transatlantic and now transpacific routes too RATAS INMUNDAS!

Didn't even see the mating Kangaroo scheme during my 2 trips to JFK.

I expected maybe I'll have a chance someday at LAX, but this invasion of A330 is gonna make it harder.
It aint over yet. I havent heard the fat lady sing :lol:

lijk604
2010-03-25, 06:10 PM
It aint over yet. I havent heard the fat lady sing :lol:

Time to take the rats out of your ears.
:lol:

Speedbird1
2010-03-26, 10:50 AM
Great photos. "Wunala" is probably the most beautiful aircraft scheme to come to JFK. Runners-up are "Tropical" from SIA, "Pokemon" from ANA and "Baci" from Alitalia. There are a few others but I can't recall. Sadly, it's hard to get access to take close-up photos anymore. In the 80's, I could stand for hours at the end of Rwy 31R by taxiway "WW" to take photos; those days are gone. I would wave to the pilots.

Mayi757
2010-03-27, 12:07 AM
Here's an idea. When the A330 finally comes, they should let the local graffiti vandals spray paint it and call it "Ghetto Dreaming"

Back in Australia, they discover the idea has failed. Certain ramp worker has spray painted a giant RAT on the tail.

Speedbird1
2010-03-28, 07:27 AM
I saw a regular Qantas B744 on Thursday taxying at JFK but it had something like the words "COME HOME" painted on the center of the fuselage in black lettering and the letter "O" ressembled a soccer ball. What is the meaning? Is it to do with the World Cup? Sorry I couldn't see the tail #.

seahawks7757
2010-03-28, 07:39 AM
It was the OneWorld Painted 747-400. It has something to do with soccer.

JHNA57
2010-03-28, 09:41 AM
It was the OneWorld Painted 747-400. It has something to do with soccer.
Could this be it??
SKIcrkaSuW8

NLovis
2010-03-28, 10:50 AM
I saw a regular Qantas B744 on Thursday taxying at JFK but it had something like the words "COME HOME" painted on the center of the fuselage in black lettering and the letter "O" ressembled a soccer ball. What is the meaning? Is it to do with the World Cup? Sorry I couldn't see the tail #.
Yea it does. Qantas supports Austraila's bid for the cup. I havent been sharing the last few days cause there hasnt really been much at JFK last several days but I did get Philip. Started raining while I took this shot so quality is lacking. The letters read "COME PLAY" "Proudly Supporting Austraila's Bid Austraila2018-2022.com.au"
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/img_0768.jpg

Speedbird1
2010-07-05, 07:39 AM
Another 747 bites the dust. Will miss Wunala although I have no access to the ramp to get the great shots posted here. I often see the QFA B744 depart off 31L from my window. It will be missed. Gone also are the ANA Pokemon, SIA Tropical, AZA Baci and all the others bearing special liveries.

hiss srq
2010-07-05, 10:01 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46497807@N04/4763441069/http://www.flickr.com/photos/46497807@N04/4764079314/I caught the last visit of Wunala from my roof the other day.... I saw her coming for 31R in the distance while I was tanning... Ran inside, grabbed my camera and got all the way to the roof in a matter of less than a minute to catch her knowing this was likely her last time at JFK and my only chance left to actually catch her here.

Ychocky
2010-07-05, 10:21 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46497807@N04/4763441069/http://www.flickr.com/photos/46497807@N04/4764079314/I caught the last visit of Wunala from my roof the other day.... I saw her coming for 31R in the distance while I was tanning... Ran inside, grabbed my camera and got all the way to the roof in a matter of less than a minute to catch her knowing this was likely her last time at JFK and my only chance left to actually catch her here.

That. Is an amazing photo. What stroke of luck you were on the roof!

RIP another 747 no longer visiting JFK.

bobm
2010-07-05, 10:28 AM
One of mine from HoBe.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobmenak/4755866413/

moose135
2010-07-05, 10:34 AM
What stroke of luck you were on the roof!
Just a matter of timing - he's always up on the roof with a beer or three... :wink:

After many near misses and a few crappy weather shots, I finally got a decent shot of her last year, thanks entirely to Eric texting me every 20 minutes with updates.
http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Airliners-and-Airport-Spotting/Kennedy-Airport/JM20090303VH-OEJ002/484772344_CKiXw-L.jpg

Once I got that first good shot, I managed to catch her a couple of other times after that as well.
http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Airliners-and-Airport-Spotting/Kennedy-Airport/JM20091004VH-OEJ001/670255135_kafkt-L.jpg

Delta777LR
2010-07-07, 08:49 AM
Wunala is the only scheme I never cought at JFK. I did blew a big chance over a week ago while spotting at the mounds because it landed on 22R, so I reall manage to get just the backlit shot. Very unusable.

Speedbird1
2010-07-09, 05:38 AM
My sister sees QFA 108 almost daily from her window in Sheepshead Bay as QFA 108 usually departs from Rwy 31L and turns near her house. She saw the new A332 pass-by on Wed, July 7 at 1935. She was disappointed as she was used to the lovely B744. Since Qantas only comes 5 days a week, which 2 days does she not come? I am upset that there is no longer the B744, but don't forget that in the 80's and 90's there were no Qantas flights into JFK at all. Passengers had to fly to LAX via AAL and switch to a Qantas B744. In 1983, I flew to LAX just to plane-spot. I spent 3 days spotting at Bradly Terminal and nobody bothered me. I also loved seeing Air New Zealand B744s as well as Hawaiian Air and others.

Speedbird1
2010-07-13, 08:19 AM
More bad news. The new Qantas Airbus A332 no longer even visits JFK on Tuesdays or Thursdays I believe. I need confirmation of this.