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bobm
2010-03-02, 09:31 PM
I have a bit of a newbie question. One of my goals this year is to photograph Wunala Dreaming as it arrives at JFK. I see from these forums that she does come in often, but I'm really not sure of the schedule. What resource does everybody use to track it coming in? I do have my FlightAware alerts set to VH-OEJ arriving at KJFK, and departing KLAX & arriving KJFK, but never no alert. AFR6 works perfectly. Am I missing something?

Thanks,

eric8669
2010-03-02, 09:34 PM
I have a bit of a newbie question. One of my goals this year is to photograph Wunala Dreaming as it arrives at JFK. I see from these forums that she does come in often, but I'm really not sure of the schedule. What resource does everybody use to track it coming in? I do have my FlightAware alerts set to VH-OEJ arriving at KJFK, and departing KLAX & arriving KJFK, but never no alert. AFR6 works perfectly. Am I missing something?

Thanks,

You can't track commercial aircraft on flightaware by aircraft ID. If you were tracking QF107 on flightaware that would work fine.

You need to use some type of acars tracking.

I would check the INBOUND! Incoming Arrivals To Your Local Airports topic in the News and Aircraft Visitor Section. I tend to post when Wunala is inbound.

bobm
2010-03-02, 09:49 PM
Great, Thanks Eric.

PhilDernerJr
2010-03-02, 10:10 PM
Often it can merely be someone in LA who sees that it's Wunala, and gives one of the NYers a heads up.

Hiflyer
2010-03-02, 10:27 PM
Hi Bob,

Could consider becoming a member of Sydney Airport Message Board, posting a message and you would then have 14+ advance hours pre-warning of its arrival.

Here's the link:

http://yssyforum.net/board/index.php

The rests up to you! Im a member and the replies you recieve may help you in your endeavours. :borat:

Cheers Hiflyer.

NLovis
2010-03-03, 12:46 AM
I dont find out till I get into work and look at the board to see whats incomming. Once at work though I have no means of a computer so I cannot post on the forum. If I had a numebr to call I could foward the heads up as to if its Wunala and the ETA. From what has been going on its been either VH-OEI or VH-OEF one day then Wunala VH-OEJ the next day. Seems like they dont send wunala if the weather is bad though. I still havent gotten an answer to if there is a program you can download to track a/c or flights.

wunaladreamin
2010-03-03, 03:11 PM
Bob, check your inbox sir.

hiss srq
2010-03-03, 03:19 PM
Nick, weather would not dictate an aircraft rotation. It would not make sense. Considering the airplane is halfway around the world from base that would be a bit unrealistic. "Hey, it looks like the ceillings are going to be a touch low at JFK. Lets send her to Singapore today instead......." (Other guy in dispatch) "Sounds good Bret, I'll make a call to the gates and have them pull off all the JFK and LAX pax and stick them on the normal scheme right now.... wouldnt want the JFK spotters to get dissapointed!"

NLovis
2010-03-03, 03:23 PM
yea yea I know already. Its just how its been. Look at how frequently its comming. Every other day. And when the weather has been calling for snow on a supposed Wunala day? Wunala doesnt show. Think about it.

wunaladreamin
2010-03-03, 04:26 PM
There is no set "Wunala day." Please understand that premise. It's completely up to dispatchers and aircraft rotation and really is a crap shoot amongst any ship for any fleet.

NLovis
2010-03-03, 06:05 PM
I know there isnt a Wunala day. Just saying look at how the rotation has been.

wunaladreamin
2010-03-03, 06:28 PM
The rotation is nothing more than chance. It's got absolutely nothing to do with wx.

T-Bird76
2010-03-03, 07:48 PM
There is no set "Wunala day." Please understand that premise. It's completely up to dispatchers and aircraft rotation and really is a crap shoot amongst any ship for any fleet.

The one thing however to keep in mind with Qantas's 747 fleet is they only have 6 ER model 747s that are generally dedicated to the Trans Pacific routes so the chances of seeing Wunala at JFK are far greater then lets say seeing BA's "One World" 747.

From my travels out to LAX over the years I've found there's a greater then 40% chance Qantas 107 will be Wunala Dreaming. Also f you don't see her at LAX on day one you're there, you'll see her on day two or 3 for certain.

wunaladreamin
2010-03-03, 08:09 PM
That's understood but QF doesn't use solely -400ER's on the trans-Pacific runs. More frequently, we're seeing non ER -400's on these routes. Matter of fact, yesterday's QF0107/0108 was operated by VH-OJP, which is a non ER 747-438. Moreover, since QF runs more routes to and from LAX, seeing OEJ is virtually guaranteed when you're there. My point was simply that wx or a set day of the week will not determine which ship runs a certain route.

hiss srq
2010-03-03, 08:16 PM
Hey Kenny, do you want a little moreover to go with that moreover? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

wunaladreamin
2010-03-03, 08:23 PM
Hey Kenny, do you want a little moreover to go with that moreover? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Chto?

hiss srq
2010-03-03, 08:26 PM
Chto?
God bless you? :lol:

lijk604
2010-03-03, 08:49 PM
There is no set "Wunala day." Please understand that premise. It's completely up to dispatchers and aircraft rotation and really is a crap shoot amongst any ship for any fleet.

Well RATS! That's about all I have to say.

wunaladreamin
2010-03-04, 07:05 AM
Chto?
God bless you? :lol:
Spacibo


Well RATS! That's about all I have to say.
LOL!

Iberia A340-600
2010-03-04, 10:53 AM
yea yea I know already. Its just how its been. Look at how frequently its comming. Every other day. And when the weather has been calling for snow on a supposed Wunala day? Wunala doesnt show. Think about it.

Sheer coincidence, Nick.

NLovis
2010-03-04, 11:36 AM
yea yea I know already. Its just how its been. Look at how frequently its comming. Every other day. And when the weather has been calling for snow on a supposed Wunala day? Wunala doesnt show. Think about it.

Sheer coincidence, Nick.
Maby maby not. All i'm saying is look at when Wunala is comming in. You cant just say its a coincidence.

wunaladreamin
2010-03-04, 03:24 PM
Maby maby not. All i'm saying is look at when Wunala is comming in. You cant just say its a coincidence.
Yes you can.

NLovis
2010-03-04, 06:46 PM
Maby maby not. All i'm saying is look at when Wunala is comming in. You cant just say its a coincidence.
Yes you can.
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/cat_pu10.jpg

wunaladreamin
2010-03-04, 06:55 PM
You know what, I concede. No use trying to convince you if such absurdity. You win!

http://www.inewscatcher.com/timages/c2cc620919edee52db45125da988d64c.jpg

NLovis
2010-03-04, 07:02 PM
You know what, I concede. No use trying to convince you if such absurdity. You win!

http://www.inewscatcher.com/timages/c2cc620919edee52db45125da988d64c.jpg
Move along ratpack before i call the cats :twisted:

wunaladreamin
2010-03-04, 07:05 PM
Cats? RATS!!! :lol:

NLovis
2010-03-04, 07:12 PM
Cats? RATS!!! :lol:
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/12912210.jpg
:twisted:

eric8669
2010-03-04, 07:39 PM
yea yea I know already. Its just how its been. Look at how frequently its comming. Every other day. And when the weather has been calling for snow on a supposed Wunala day? Wunala doesnt show. Think about it.

Sheer coincidence, Nick.
Maby maby not. All i'm saying is look at when Wunala is comming in. You cant just say its a coincidence.

Nick,

Last week I was at JFk, It was cloudy, rain/snow and Wunala came in. Last year I shot Wunala in heavy snow. It is just a coincidence.

bobm
2010-03-04, 09:53 PM
Thank everybody for the advice! I will be using it & I hope to be posting a Wunala Dreaming soon.

NLovis
2010-03-05, 01:05 AM
Sheer coincidence, Nick.
Maby maby not. All i'm saying is look at when Wunala is comming in. You cant just say its a coincidence.

Nick,

Last week I was at JFk, It was cloudy, rain/snow and Wunala came in. Last year I shot Wunala in heavy snow. It is just a coincidence.
Last year is last year. This year is this year. No two years are the same.
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/12899510.jpg

lijk604
2010-03-05, 09:53 AM
You know what, I concede. No use trying to convince you if such absurdity. You win!

http://www.inewscatcher.com/timages/c2cc620919edee52db45125da988d64c.jpg

Epic Win! No LOLCats or any other picture/saying generator will top this.

Let's move on children.

NLovis
2010-03-05, 12:21 PM
You know what, I concede. No use trying to convince you if such absurdity. You win!

http://www.inewscatcher.com/timages/c2cc620919edee52db45125da988d64c.jpg

Epic Win! No LOLCats or any other picture/saying generator will top this.

Let's move on children.
Chuck Norris is the ultimate win. MORE HUMOR :borat:

Gareth Forwood
2010-03-09, 10:50 PM
A good resource would be the local ACARS we use in Sydney, provided by one of the aforementioned Sydney Message Board members. Go to http://www.16right.com/ and click on the ACARS link. Another option is http://www.acarsd.org which is an international ACARS site. Using both you can search by flight number. QF107 departs at 11:50 local (19:50 in NY) and usually comes up on ACARS shortly thereafter. Here (http://www.16right.com/ACARS.php?Regno=&Flightno=QF0107&ACARSdate=&submit=Search) is the 16 Right QF107 search, showing the equipment used recently (I'm not sure why, but it is only showing to the end of Feb).

From memory, the -ERs are the only aircraft that is able to fly MEL-LAX, but SYD-LAX can, and often is, flown by standard -400s, both by QF and UA. I hope this helps, and if I am able to I'll let you all know if I see OEJ departing as QF107

eric8669
2010-03-09, 11:06 PM
A good resource would be the local ACARS we use in Sydney, provided by one of the aforementioned Sydney Message Board members. Go to http://www.16right.com/ and click on the ACARS link. Another option is http://www.acarsd.org which is an international ACARS site. Using both you can search by flight number. QF107 departs at 11:50 local (19:50 in NY) and usually comes up on ACARS shortly thereafter. Here (http://www.16right.com/ACARS.php?Regno=&Flightno=QF0107&ACARSdate=&submit=Search) is the 16 Right QF107 search, showing the equipment used recently (I'm not sure why, but it is only showing to the end of Feb).

From memory, the -ERs are the only aircraft that is able to fly MEL-LAX, but SYD-LAX can, and often is, flown by standard -400s, both by QF and UA. I hope this helps, and if I am able to I'll let you all know if I see OEJ departing as QF107


www.16right.com (http://www.16right.com) is what I use.

NLovis
2010-03-09, 11:39 PM
Thanks alot. That will be helpful. QF107 is uaually an ER but we get a standard 400 every now and then.

mirrodie
2010-03-10, 12:18 AM
I was playing with the 16right site but how do you use it?

I tried to use it to see where VH-OEJ was on March 1, but to no avail. SO how do you use to see where she is right now, for example?

NLovis
2010-03-10, 12:29 AM
I was playing with the 16right site but how do you use it?

I tried to use it to see where VH-OEJ was on March 1, but to no avail. SO how do you use to see where she is right now, for example?
By the looks of it Wunala hasnt flown since the 26th on that. but according to my last capture of here she was here on the 5th. It hasnt been updated.

eric8669
2010-03-10, 12:36 AM
I was playing with the 16right site but how do you use it?

I tried to use it to see where VH-OEJ was on March 1, but to no avail. SO how do you use to see where she is right now, for example?
By the looks of it Wunala hasnt flown since the 26th on that. but according to my last capture of here she was here on the 5th. It hasnt been

updated.

incorrect. She flew Sydney-Melbourne earlier today.

NLovis
2010-03-10, 12:48 AM
I was playing with the 16right site but how do you use it?

I tried to use it to see where VH-OEJ was on March 1, but to no avail. SO how do you use to see where she is right now, for example?
By the looks of it Wunala hasnt flown since the 26th on that. but according to my last capture of here she was here on the 5th. It hasnt been

updated.

incorrect. She flew Sydney-Melbourne earlier today.
As I said she hasnt been to JFK since the 5th and on the ACARS since the 26th. How am I supposed to know what is going on at syd?

eric8669
2010-03-10, 12:56 AM
By the looks of it Wunala hasnt flown since the 26th on that. but according to my last capture of here she was here on the 5th. It hasnt been

updated.

As I said she hasnt been to JFK since the 5th and on the ACARS since the 26th. How am I supposed to know what is going on at syd?

What do you think 16right.com is for? its to tell you everything that is going on in Sydney. Wunala was on ACARS today. figure out how to use the site correctly then report back.

Gareth Forwood
2010-03-10, 01:26 AM
As I mentioned, for some reason it's only showing to the end of Feb. For more up to date listings maybe use www.acarsd.org (http://www.acarsd.org) instead. I'll email the guy who runs the website and see if its just a temporary problem.

Mayi757
2010-03-10, 10:10 AM
As I mentioned, for some reason it's only showing to the end of Feb. For more up to date listings maybe use http://www.acarsd.org instead. I'll email the guy who runs the website and see if its just a temporary problem.

It shows for me. It last did JFK-LAX on the 7th (not sure if that's NY or SYD time). SYD is a day ahead I think.

NLovis
2010-03-13, 01:48 AM
As I mentioned, for some reason it's only showing to the end of Feb. For more up to date listings maybe use http://www.acarsd.org instead. I'll email the guy who runs the website and see if its just a temporary problem.

It shows for me. It last did JFK-LAX on the 7th (not sure if that's NY or SYD time). SYD is a day ahead I think.
Mostly. I dont think its a full 24hrs ahead but it is well ahead of us here on the east coast

Gareth Forwood
2010-03-13, 06:55 AM
It's all Sydney time, so take away 16hrs to get to NY time i.e. Midday in Syd on March 12th is 8pm in NY on Mach 11th. So basically check at around 8pm NY time to see what the next day's QF107 will be. Keep in mind these times will change when US goes to Daylight Savings this weekend and again when Sydney comes off DST (first Sunday in April)

seahawks7757
2010-03-14, 08:28 AM
Nick, weather would not dictate an aircraft rotation. It would not make sense.

I would have to disagree with this sir. Yesterday at work (Horizon Air SEA) we were going to have aircraft 424 flying our PUW/LWS 2214 flight. Weather was going down in Pullman so we swapped to aircraft 421 even though both were fine w/no mtx or anything because aircraft 421 is one of the few in out fleet at this time equipped with the WAAS system. So your statement is not toally true. :wink:

wunaladreamin
2010-03-14, 03:37 PM
http://i.my.afterdawn.com/standard/16598.jpg

NLovis
2010-03-15, 03:01 AM
Thank you seahawks. I think the drunk rat was too drunk to upload :lol: RATS! :P
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/rats10.jpg

seahawks7757
2010-03-15, 04:25 AM
Copy that anytime, figure that was one of the few operational things that would be fine to share :)