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Delta777LR
2009-11-30, 10:34 AM
Read this statement on Anet about this

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forum ... n/4623304/ (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4623304/)

hiss srq
2009-11-30, 02:52 PM
Wow, talk about a kneww jerk reaction. Than again, I wouldnt expect anything less from China.

JZ1
2009-11-30, 03:21 PM
Just to clarify this. The Chinese authorities are only grounding Chinese registered MD-11 operated by China Eastern and Shanghai Airlines. However, this leaves 2 two interesting questions:

1. what happens to Fedex and UPS MD-11's. They visit China regularly; are they allow to come and go? I suppose they are not being grounded, otherwise we will hear a lot more about this in the news.

2. EVA and Shanghai Airlines are collaborating together and BR is gradually transfering its MD-11 fleet to MF. What's going to happen to this transaction?

Midnight Mike
2009-11-30, 03:39 PM
Just to clarify this. The Chinese authorities are only grounding Chinese registered MD-11 operated by China Eastern and Shanghai Airlines. However, this leaves 2 two interesting questions:

1. what happens to Fedex and UPS MD-11's. They visit China regularly; are they allow to come and go? I suppose they are not being grounded, otherwise we will hear a lot more about this in the news.

2. EVA and Shanghai Airlines are collaborating together and BR is gradually transfering its MD-11 fleet to MF. What's going to happen to this transaction?

"If" the ban takes place, there would be no impact to Non-Chinese present MD-11 operators. New MD-11 operators would probably not be able to gain access to the Chinese market.

Of course everything depends on how serious the Chinese Government pushes the issue.

Matt Molnar
2009-11-30, 04:02 PM
Banning FedEx and UPS MD-11 freighters would put a serious dent in China's economy.

moose135
2009-11-30, 07:20 PM
"If" the ban takes place, there would be no impact to Non-Chinese present MD-11 operators. New MD-11 operators would probably not be able to gain access to the Chinese market.

Of course everything depends on how serious the Chinese Government pushes the issue.
I know this is ancient history for some of you, but back in 1979, after the Chicago crash, the FAA pulled the Airworthiness Certificate for the DC-10, grounding the fleet. While this only applied to US operators of the aircraft, any foreign DC-10s that were in the US were also grounded until modifications were made. I remember a foreign DC-10 - Varig, maybe? - sitting on the ramp at Hangar 14 for weeks. I guess if the Chinese government went that way, they could ground any FedEx or UPS aircraft currently in the country, or ban others from entering.

Midnight Mike
2009-11-30, 08:28 PM
I know this is ancient history for some of you, but back in 1979, after the Chicago crash, the FAA pulled the Airworthiness Certificate for the DC-10, grounding the fleet. While this only applied to US operators of the aircraft, any foreign DC-10s that were in the US were also grounded until modifications were made. I remember a foreign DC-10 - Varig, maybe? - sitting on the ramp at Hangar 14 for weeks. I guess if the Chinese government went that way, they could ground any FedEx or UPS aircraft currently in the country, or ban others from entering.

Moose

Of course, as long as there is good reason such as mechanical malfunctions.

Now, the FAA is almost considered an international standard, so, if the FAA yanked a certificate, many enities would follow suit.