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NickPeterman

2012-03-14, 11:27 PM

Hey guys. I am trying to salvage some shots taken in less than ideal conditions. For instance, all of these were taken on a tripod at 4PM, at ISO 640, and could still only get a shutter speed of 1/100th

Any thoughts

http://www.flickr.com/photos/53263228@N04/6983734055/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7207/6837611160_be0a506b5b_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6837611194_3fc7a68372_o.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6983734211_db6f0e7a65_o.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6983734175_3c3fecb8f9_b.jpg

Nick

Kris V

2012-03-15, 04:36 AM

I think there good, all of them. The only one that might have a problem is the UA Star Alliance 767-400ER but it seems just a lil under-sharpened. :wink:

Kris V

2012-04-23, 02:55 AM

How are these?
http://www.jetphotos.net/img/3/1/8/7/39105_1334200781.jpg
http://www.jetphotos.net/img/4/9/0/6/41182_1334283609.jpg
http://www.jetphotos.net/img/3/3/3/6/56483_1334387633.jpg

threeholerglory

2012-05-04, 02:09 PM

eff it....why not try?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/k1335753955.1842headon1024.jpg

JDANDO

2012-05-05, 08:58 AM

Hey guys!

Wondering if this is sharp enough for anet/jp.

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-2QFFXW7/0/X3/IMG3421n2423j-X3.jpg

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-2QFFXW7/0/X3/IMG3421n2423j-X3.jpg

Panned at 1/60ss, ISO100, F11 using a 2 stop ND filter to allow a low shutter speed in daylight

gonzalu

2012-05-05, 01:46 PM

For A.net I would give it another selective round of USM... JP.net may be ok with it as is, but the regi may still be a bit soft.

JDANDO

2012-05-05, 02:51 PM

For A.net I would give it another selective round of USM... JP.net may be ok with it as is, but the regi may still be a bit soft.

That is what I was thinking. A little more USM and it is in anet queue.
Thanks Manny!

Kris V

2012-05-05, 03:26 PM

How is this night shot? 45 minutes after the sun was below the horizon.
http://www.jetphotos.net/img/4/5/6/0/98564_1336241065.jpg

adscram14

2012-05-05, 06:17 PM

Kris--You chopped off part of the v-stab. I'm not sure if they'd axe the shot for that, but maybe add a touch more USM as well.

Kris V

2012-05-05, 08:16 PM

Kris--You chopped off part of the v-stab. I'm not sure if they'd axe the shot for that, but maybe add a touch more USM as well.
Will try that out! The chop of the v stab seems to be ok...I'll try more USM.

Kris V

2012-06-21, 07:34 PM

How are these 2 close ups?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/y1340275458.1833img_0162.jpg
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/f1340274663.8264img_3959.jpg

JDANDO

2012-07-14, 06:29 PM

Hey guys!

How does this am shot look?

Obviously a "night" shot, but will it work for jp.net?

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-RZjWjk4/0/L/1S7T9483n567fe-morning-L.jpg

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-RZjWjk4/0/L/1S7T9483n567fe-morning-L.jpg

Thanks,
jeremy in mn

Just_Lucas

2012-07-16, 02:47 AM

How would this Be for airliners.net? :Ohttp://www.airliners.net/addphotos/middle/ready/s1342410516.144920120629_z1340408005.1649unitedair linescopyrightii.jpg.jpg

gonzalu

2012-07-16, 07:57 AM

Jeremy, your DC-10 shot looks a bit high in frame but exposure looks fine to me. Maybe a bit less contrast to my taste...

Lucas, your image is much better but would probably get rejected for centered and level still. Always try to make sure the aircraft is centered in the frame! And do not cut off your stabilizers or tail or wings or nose ... and no stabbing of the edges of the frame :smile: Your level is off. Use the lines of the vertical walls of any buildings or structures to guide you.

gonzalu

2012-07-16, 08:11 AM

Lucas here is an example of what it should look like to make it more acceptable ... there are certain parts painted in to make it look complete but DO NOT use this image as it is not final :-) I would say send me an original image via PM and I will edit for you as best as I think and I can send back to you with my edits so you can see what I did. Do you use Photoshop?

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-gNfG57T/0/O/i-gNfG57T.jpg

Lucas, also look at your profile settings. Did you purposely type in a Capital "U" in JUstLucas in your name? If not, take note that it is that way...

Just_Lucas

2012-07-16, 02:51 PM

mmmhm,i see where your going at,yes i use photoshop but not cs5 i can send you the original if you dont mind,I just dont want you to like Take the credit oh the photo,I dont mind helping but like I dont know if you want me to i can send you the original,I sent it in Yesterday as it only got rejected for Centered and nothing else which surprised me,I just hope im not taking up your spotting time with this haha, :P Thanks for your help!
Lucas here is an example of what it should look like to make it more acceptable ... there are certain parts painted in to make it look complete but DO NOT use this image as it is not final :-) I would say send me an original image via PM and I will edit for you as best as I think and I can send back to you with my edits so you can see what I did. Do you use Photoshop?

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-gNfG57T/0/O/i-gNfG57T.jpg

Lucas, also look at your profile settings. Did you purposely type in a Capital "U" in JUstLucas in your name? If not, take note that it is that way...

Just_Lucas

2012-07-17, 05:18 AM

Im guessing its going to be Rejected for Centerd,didn't want to upload it to a screener..ah well,One is Deperaturing and one i Believe is unloading,Should i Crop The jet Center in the back ground this time or leave it be? Not sure about this one..,Thanks for the response :) http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/middle/ready/p1342516496.0416boeingunited_737s-website.jpg.jpg

gonzalu

2012-07-17, 06:47 AM

Lucas,

First off, I would not take any credit for your photos. Believe me, I am pretty selfish when it comes to Aviation Photography, I couldn't care less about stealing other work if I can promote MY OWN! :tongue: but of course, it is entirely up to you if you want the help or not, no sweat off my back!

Your second one below is Backlit. If the sun is not behind you, don't bother with uploading to the databases. Also, the Motive should be tighter. Unless it is really interesting, far away scenarios do not lend themselves well for a motive so I would use it sparingly.

You should concentrate on a well composed shot of a single aircraft first and get used to editing that. Then you can start to expand your horizon!

I will take a look at my PM for your original.

Just_Lucas

2012-07-17, 05:51 PM

eek i guess i was right about not Uploading it..So What your saying is That it wouldn't go through because of Backlight and Not close enough or...?And okay i'll send you the photo haha
Lucas,

First off, I would not take any credit for your photos. Believe me, I am pretty selfish when it comes to Aviation Photography, I couldn't care less about stealing other work if I can promote MY OWN! :tongue: but of course, it is entirely up to you if you want the help or not, no sweat off my back!

Your second one below is Backlit. If the sun is not behind you, don't bother with uploading to the databases. Also, the Motive should be tighter. Unless it is really interesting, far away scenarios do not lend themselves well for a motive so I would use it sparingly.

You should concentrate on a well composed shot of a single aircraft first and get used to editing that. Then you can start to expand your horizon!

I will take a look at my PM for your original.

gonzalu

2012-07-17, 11:27 PM

One reason will be Back-lit, another Centered and the other Motive. Although I am not sure if Back-lit counts as a motive rejection or a processing one. But it should be motive as there really isn't any other reason... Pete? I am out of my league here :smile:

Just_Lucas

2012-07-18, 01:44 AM

haha okay,thanks we'll wait and see what they decide to list for rejections :)
One reason will be Back-lit, another Centered and the other Motive. Although I am not sure if Back-lit counts as a motive rejection or a processing one. But it should be motive as there really isn't any other reason... Pete? I am out of my league here :smile:

grazysub

2012-07-21, 11:41 AM

http://www.jetphotos.net/img/3/3/5/2/95539_1342885253.jpg (http://www.jetphotos.net/img/3/3/5/2/95539_1342885253.jpg)

JDANDO

2012-07-21, 03:23 PM

That is a good looking shot Jeroen! I am on my laptop, so I have no clue about the quality, however.:frown:

grazysub

2012-07-21, 04:35 PM

That is a good looking shot Jeroen! I am on my laptop, so I have no clue about the quality, however.:frown:
Thanks,
is it not to grainy?

.

Just_Lucas

2012-07-24, 02:27 PM

What do you think about this one?Qualityhttp://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/United737BoeingWebsite.jpg

Just_Lucas

2012-07-24, 02:32 PM

Also what do you think of this one?http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/PBIACopyrightII.jpg

Roush6NY

2012-07-24, 02:37 PM

Are you planning to upload this same exact copy?

If so it will get rejected for pretty much everything. Parts of acft cut off, size/ratio, too soft, too much grain, bad contrast and I can go on.

If you like send me an original copy and I will be more than happy to show you my version: [email protected]

What do you think about this one?Qualityhttp://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/United737BoeingWebsite.jpg

Just_Lucas

2012-07-24, 02:53 PM

yea,i was thinking the Same i knew it would get Rejected Alright just as long as i dont take up your Time :)
Are you planning to upload this same exact copy?

If so it will get rejected for pretty much everything. Parts of acft cut off, size/ratio, too soft, too much grain, bad contrast and I can go on.

If you like send me an original copy and I will be more than happy to show you my version: [email protected]

Just_Lucas

2012-07-24, 02:55 PM

What do you think of These 4?Should of just posted all in one Post sorry everyone for the spamhttp://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/AmericanAirlinesTakeoffPBIAIII.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/AmericanAirlinesPbiaIIWebsite.jpg
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/SouthWestDepartingIIWebsite.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/ControlTowerWEbsite.jpg

gonzalu

2012-07-24, 04:06 PM

Lucas,

These are not high quality but then again, it depends on what [you] are considering them for. If for your personal collection, do you like them? Then they are great :smile: I personally would not be pleased if these were mine.

You should (if you are so inclined) strive for the highest quality photos you can possibly produce. I suggest you spend some time practicing basic editing ... a good place to start, for lack of a better source specifically related to aviation photography editing, are the JetPhotos.net and Airliners.net

Respectively;
http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=44854

http://www.airliners.net/faq/editing_guide.php

and you will find hundreds of thousands of tutorials of every kind by doing a simple search:

Finally, take a look at [your] favorite photos and ask yourself if yours are that great. If you want to get better help, take a look at photos posted here by our members and pick your favorites. Feel free to ask the author how the picture was made and you will surely get a great answer on the gear used, settings and even the editing and final processing.

Just_Lucas

2012-07-24, 05:09 PM

alright and haha i know there are not the Best Quality then again,I dont have a very good Camera,Im planning on getting the Fuji S4500 Seems like a good camera to use Thanks for your response :) and i can edit in Photoshop i Just never used Photoshop elements 10 Before and deicded to mess around with the Editing to see how they came out,Thanks for the Response! :)
Lucas,

These are not high quality but then again, it depends on what [you] are considering them for. If for your personal collection, do you like them? Then they are great :smile: I personally would not be pleased if these were mine.

You should (if you are so inclined) strive for the highest quality photos you can possibly produce. I suggest you spend some time practicing basic editing ... a good place to start, for lack of a better source specifically related to aviation photography editing, are the JetPhotos.net and Airliners.net

Respectively;
http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=44854

http://www.airliners.net/faq/editing_guide.php

and you will find hundreds of thousands of tutorials of every kind by doing a simple search:

Finally, take a look at [your] favorite photos and ask yourself if yours are that great. If you want to get better help, take a look at photos posted here by our members and pick your favorites. Feel free to ask the author how the picture was made and you will surely get a great answer on the gear used, settings and even the editing and final processing.

JDANDO

2012-08-06, 10:52 PM

Wondering if either of these might make it onto jp.net?

#1
http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Airplanes/ATL-05Aug2012/i-QpfN3Xg/0/X3/1S7T7017atl-ramp-a1-X3.jpg

#2 A bit more artsy
http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Airplanes/ATL-05Aug2012/i-K8mkL9J/0/X3/1S7T7011-atl-ramp-X3.jpg

Thanks,
jeremy in MN

gonzalu

2012-08-06, 10:57 PM

Jeremy, I think they have a great chance as Ramp shots...

Roush6NY

2012-08-07, 09:34 AM

They are great shots, I submitted a very similar shot like your #1 but not a night version a while back and it got rejected ( too much open space ) there was clearly a United 757 on the ramp and after fighting it, they still told me " its just a shot of a 757 and not a ramp" OKEY !!!!

Just_Lucas

2012-08-08, 01:54 PM

Thanks manny,I dont have the best Camera as i just Got one Cause i just started out in a photography class,But im hoping either to get a camcorder or Just A Regular 35 MM Lens or The Fuji S4500,Doesn't seem like a bad camera and its cheap,The Picture Quality is 16MP By the way And the editing i was just messing around with photoshop Elements >.> guess they didn't come out as what i excepted :P

Just_Lucas

2012-08-14, 11:31 PM

oh opps wrong quote lol

Just_Lucas

2012-08-14, 11:49 PM

Jacksonville International Airport Fl American Eagles Landinghttp://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/AmericanEaglewebsite.jpg
Old Paint Job of Us airways 1980's Paint Job
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/UsAirways1980PaintJob.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/UsAirwaysTaxingWebsite.jpg
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/UsAirways1980PaintJobIII.jpg

gonzalu

2012-08-15, 06:35 AM

Lucas, these do not have potential for upload to the on-line databases... in my opinion, they should be for your private collection.

Just_Lucas

2012-08-15, 04:49 PM

awww,:(,I just found out it was a 5MP Camera but it seemed to Be better then my 16MP the way i shot it,it was shot from a different camera so i was Just seeing how it looked i wasn't thinking about uploading it but i wasn't sure,Just looked it up and to find out it was 5MP :P
Lucas, these do not have potential for upload to the on-ine databases... in my opinion, they should be for your private collection.

megatop412

2012-08-15, 06:30 PM

Lucas of all your recent shots posted I would say that only the American 737 being pushed back is close enough to the action. The other shots have way too much empty space in them. Unfortunately, cropping will not be the answer, as your shots are already too soft. To follow up on Manny's comment, you want to decide whether you want these shots for your own personal collection or if your aim is to get some shots accepted by the major sites.

I hate the idea of discouraging you because I was once in your position. I had an all-manual film SLR that required that I zoom, focus, AND watch the meter to adjust my exposure all at the same time, and I was getting very few keepers. One thing I would suggest you consider is, instead of the Fuji you're considering, you look into getting a DSLR. I know it's more money, but if you check out some used gear, and learn how to use it, you will end up with much higher quality. Believe it or not, a used DSLR and lens will most likely give you much better shots than a 'bridge' camera like the Fuji(again, once you learn to use it). Just something to consider

Just_Lucas

2012-08-15, 09:19 PM

yea,thanks i will take a look at the camera.is that the full title of it?
Lucas of all your recent shots posted I would say that only the American 737 being pushed back is close enough to the action. The other shots have way too much empty space in them. Unfortunately, cropping will not be the answer, as your shots are already too soft. To follow up on Manny's comment, you want to decide whether you want these shots for your own personal collection or if your aim is to get some shots accepted by the major sites.

I hate the idea of discouraging you because I was once in your position. I had an all-manual film SLR that required that I zoom, focus, AND watch the meter to adjust my exposure all at the same time, and I was getting very few keepers. One thing I would suggest you consider is, instead of the Fuji you're considering, you look into getting a DSLR. I know it's more money, but if you check out some used gear, and learn how to use it, you will end up with much higher quality. Believe it or not, a used DSLR and lens will most likely give you much better shots than a 'bridge' camera like the Fuji(again, once you learn to use it). Just something to consider

megatop412

2012-08-15, 10:27 PM

I would suggest going for a used Nikon D40x or D60, and something like a used 55-200mmVR lens to go with it(or its Canon equivalent like the XSi). There are many of them floating around. If you find you enjoy this you could later step up to a more serious model with more features.

I'm not trying to sell you a camera, just saying that a bridge camera will probably end up limiting you whereas a DSLR like those mentioned above would get you in the ballpark of where you want to be. Yes, it is possible to take very good pictures with bridge cameras like the Fuji, I just know that if you feel like you are serious about photography, you will probably end up with an SLR at some point anyway.

Just_Lucas

2012-08-17, 05:09 PM

thanks!,i looked at it and im not sure if i had the $$ for it right now lol :P
I would suggest going for a used Nikon D40x or D60, and something like a used 55-200mmVR lens to go with it(or its Canon equivalent like the XSi). There are many of them floating around. If you find you enjoy this you could later step up to a more serious model with more features.

I'm not trying to sell you a camera, just saying that a bridge camera will probably end up limiting you whereas a DSLR like those mentioned above would get you in the ballpark of where you want to be. Yes, it is possible to take very good pictures with bridge cameras like the Fuji, I just know that if you feel like you are serious about photography, you will probably end up with an SLR at some point anyway.

gonzalu

2012-08-17, 06:22 PM

Then SAVE your money. Resist the temptation to buy ANYTHING until you have enough for the one you really want... if you want it. You may be happy with what you have :smile:

Always remember physics. A small camera with a small sensor boasting a 40X zoom, is not necessarily a direct comparison to reality or the reality you want. 40X in a vacuum just means forty times magnification of whatever the start is.

Most of these cameras quote based on a very wide angle lens of very short focal length ... more like focal ratio. Basically a very small sensor concentrates pixels in the center of the image and they measure from that point of view.

So, a 45mm lens on a 1/2 sensor gives an apparent magnification of a larger focal length.

Angle of View is dictated by distance.
Magnification is dictated by distance.

45mm on a small sensor or a large sensor will ALWAYS BE 45mm :frown: so watch out for those "equivalent" numbers. Sure, I can use my camera with a 25mm lens, crop the central portion of the image and make it look IDENTICAL to one shot with a 250mm lens from the same position. Resolution will be HORRENDOUS on the one shot with the 25mm lens but, the AoV will be identical.

JDANDO

2012-08-17, 08:07 PM

Then SAVE your money. Resist the temptation to buy ANYTHING until you have enough for the one you really want... if you want it. ....

Quoted for truth. Sometimes it takes time to achieve your goals/wants. Hang out with the smart people, learn photograph, sometimes people will even let you use their equipment.

A Canon Xsi is a decent enough camera to get pictures on Anet or jp.net. Ask me how I know.

Just_Lucas

2012-08-17, 09:14 PM

so true,my photography teacher lets lends us cameras for the weekend,She has some cannons Any idea of what cannon to ask to take out?at the moment i have a Lumix Panasonic Dmc-Fz5,And another Panasonic for recording Vids For my youtube chan,If you have an idea of What cannon Camera Let me know and ill see if she has it,thanks for the help mate :) Lucsa
Then SAVE your money. Resist the temptation to buy ANYTHING until you have enough for the one you really want... if you want it. You may be happy with what you have :smile:

Always remember physics. A small camera with a small sensor boasting a 40X zoom, is not necessarily a direct comparison to reality or the reality you want. 40X in a vacuum just means forty times magnification of whatever the start is.

Most of these cameras quote based on a very wide angle lens of very short focal length ... more like focal ratio. Basically a very small sensor concentrates pixels in the center of the image and they measure from that point of view.

So, a 45mm lens on a 1/2 sensor gives an apparent magnification of a larger focal length.

Angle of View is dictated by distance.
Magnification is dictated by distance.

45mm on a small sensor or a large sensor will ALWAYS BE 45mm :frown: so watch out for those "equivalent" numbers. Sure, I can use my camera with a 25mm lens, crop the central portion of the image and make it look IDENTICAL to one shot with a 250mm lens from the same position. Resolution will be HORRENDOUS on the one shot with the 25mm lens but, the AoV will be identical.

Just_Lucas

2012-08-17, 09:15 PM

lol how you know?and ill see if i can get one lended to me
Quoted for truth. Sometimes it takes time to achieve your goals/wants. Hang out with the smart people, learn photograph, sometimes people will even let you use their equipment.

A Canon Xsi is a decent enough camera to get pictures on Anet or jp.net. Ask me how I know.

gonzalu

2012-08-17, 09:35 PM

Lucas,

First, know it's Canon, one n :smile: So, just the very first cheapest entry model wil ldo. Go with a used 28-300mm Sigma cheapo lens and that alone will elevate your photos to another stratosphere. Trust me, sensor size makes a huge difference. But you have to have your heart in it too.

Another thing you must start to do is to pour through the very best pictures on JetPhotos.net and Airliners.net as they are scrutinized for quality... especially if you want to ultimately get accepted there. If that's not your goal, you can just look at the very best on Flickr or 500px or any other site you like. But by all means, first learn to copy or mimic the best work YOU like.

Go out and ask questions of others who do it well and often. I do that all the time. I spend countless endless hours on photography forums reading and learning and watching how the real pros do it.

Reading books helps a lot. I picked up a book on lighting when I wanted to learn about studio photography. The supposed best books on the subject SUCKED badly. I ended up learning about LIGHT itself from two pros who knew how light functions at a physics level and then applied it to photography. WOW, how eye opening. Now I look at lights and shadows completely differently.

So, take your time and practice. LEARN HOW TO EDIT. Deleting your own photos is the best experience in the world. Learn to be your worst critic. And you either want to be the best you ca nbe or produce as much as possible. Two different mindsets and one will never be the other. If I go out spotting and take 1000 pictures in a single full day of spotting at JFK (lots of traffic) I may end up with 100 keepers... usually one or two per plane. Sometimes a whole hour will get deleted.

You know what, show us some of your other work with your existing camera. Can you show me your very best closeup of a flower? Or a car? Or a landscape? I mean your very best... You may be surprised your camera and your skills are already well matched and then I can show you that for aviation, the camera combo just doesn't fit. If you can;t take a great picture with your existing camera, you need to look at yourself first :smile:

JDANDO

2012-08-17, 09:50 PM

lol how you know?and ill see if i can get one lended to me

I would say 1/5 of my 1400 images on jp.net/anet are shot with my XS, 10mega pixel and it gets the job done.

Try to find someone to spot with and help you with the editting. The sites have some very specific guidelines that do not change. If you want to upload you play by their rules.

Most of all, have fun. If spotting and taking pictures is not fun it is not worth your time.

Just_Lucas

2012-08-17, 09:53 PM

yea haha i know,last time my Cousin who was a pilot at American eagle was there so was fun,couldn't get into any good spots Due to it being at Jax and not Atalanta,but thanks i will ask my teacher to see if she has that camera and yes i will have someone help me eventually! :P
I would say 1/5 of my 1400 images on jp.net/anet are shot with my XS, 10mega pixel and it gets the job done.

Try to find someone to spot with and help you with the editting. The sites have some very specific guidelines that do not change. If you want to upload you play by their rules.

Most of all, have fun. If spotting and taking pictures is not fun it is not worth your time.

Kris V

2012-08-18, 07:03 PM

Its been awhile since I have tried Anet, and I would like to know if this has a chance.
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/k1345323908.608img_2054-2.jpg
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/k1345323908.608img_2054-2.jpg
And a version with no watermark.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/krisaviationpics/7811196934/sizes/l/in/photostream/

gonzalu

2012-08-19, 09:20 PM

Kris V

2012-08-20, 08:00 PM

Kris, motive and crop look like will do fine... however, it is a bit dark for my taste. Perhaps a little less contrast and more brightness? But again, just my own taste. I don;t think there is anything wrong with it.
Thanks Manny, I hope this can get on Anet, but I'll see what I can do on brightness and contrast wise.

Just_Lucas

2012-09-04, 09:26 PM

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/middle/ready/n1346806745.1041407315_260458437350802_1071528498_ n.jpg What you all think it will get rejected for?:P

JDANDO

2012-09-04, 09:49 PM

What you all think it will get rejected for?:P

Bits cut off, contrast, horizon, centering.....

JDANDO

2012-09-04, 09:51 PM

Hey guys!

Do you think any of these would stand a chance on jp.net?

Thanks,

#1
http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-CmBBWT8/0/X2/IMG6862ph-kci-X2.jpg

#2
http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-GnwRDtC/0/X2/IMG6864ph-kci-X2.jpg

#3

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-f7ZJmJj/0/X2/IMG6860ph-kci-X2.jpg

gonzalu

2012-09-04, 10:19 PM

The crops are a bit tight... I like the first one a lot more than the other two and number 2 seems a bit high in frame. Also, don;t forget to check off dusk dark night shot category as it is pretty late it seems :-) Number one is also a bit high in frame as is...

What do you think?

Just_Lucas

2012-09-04, 10:22 PM

I like 3 and 2 Out of the best,#3 Because of the sunset off the background and 2 Is Because Of the way you shot it,I'd say put both of them and give it a try :)

Just_Lucas

2012-09-04, 10:23 PM

yea,Thats the only thing about private jet centers.....They wont let you in Without a pass or A passanger on the plane thanks though
Bits cut off, contrast, horizon, centering.....

Just_Lucas

2012-09-05, 04:47 PM

Hey everyone i have a question do you think a cannon rebel will get photos on to Airliners.net?Just wondering cause im taking a Camera out for the weekend and its a cannon Rebel i think im not sure i have to see,but its a cannon Eos

Just_Lucas

2012-10-01, 06:30 AM

Any ideas on these three? This will probally be for centering,wouldn't be surpsied.
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/JetBlueWebsite.jpg
Southwest and Jet blue passing by,Kind of nice.
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/JetBlueSwOhhithereWebsite.jpg
Smoke coming off of this one.
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/usairwaysWEbsite.jpg

Just_Lucas

2012-10-01, 07:03 AM

How about these Five
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/UnitedIwebsite.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/Delta2website.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/SouthwestIVwebsite.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/Gulfstream2website.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/UnitedIIwebsite.jpg

moose135

2012-10-01, 08:02 AM

lijk604

2012-10-01, 09:04 AM

None of those will be accepted, Lucas. They are all backlit, most are not cropped close enough or centered properly, and you clipped off the end of the horizontal stab (and I think the right wing tip) on the Delta DC-9.
To add to Moose's point, there is a lot of grain in these shots as well. Very noticeable in the SWA head on. These are the ones for your personal collection.

Roush6NY

2012-10-01, 09:45 AM

Lucas

My best personal advice I can give you, is to just go on jetPhotos and go through as many photos in the database as you can, look and learn on how they are cropped, the contrast, the color ..etc .. This is a great way to see what is except able in their eyes for your photos to have a chance and make it in

Read this guide, this will explain everything you need to know, http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=44854

Just_Lucas

2012-10-01, 11:14 AM

Yea,i was just seeing Was my first time usign the Nikon D70 Camera So i didn't really know what mode or How it would come out (: Thanks anyways.
To add to Moose's point, there is a lot of grain in these shots as well. Very noticeable in the SWA head on. These are the ones for your personal collection.

gonzalu

2012-10-01, 11:30 AM

Lucas, start without thinking about the camera. This should be your first step:

--Sun behind you
--Plane in front of you

That step alone will improve things tremendously.

After that, set your camera to

--APERTURE priority
--ISO 320
--Set your aperture to f/8
--Matrix Meter

Enjoy... and by all means CENTER YOUR Planes... Until you have that down pat, you MUST CENTER your planes... :smile:

Just_Lucas

2012-10-06, 02:05 PM

Alright thanks mate Appericate it Ill remeber it Next time i go Its just the spot where i was at the suns in the middle of the Landing&Control Tower haha,I just wrote it down and Going to do it Next time i go,I use a Nikon D70 do you think its enough to get it on airliners?:P only wondering lol And i need like a bloody 400M lens haha..well maybe 300 Im not really sure really big runway :X Thanks mate aPeripatetic it!
Lucas, start without thinking about the camera. This should be your first step:

--Sun behind you
--Plane in front of you

That step alone will improve things tremendously.

After that, set your camera to

--APERTURE priority
--ISO 320
--Set your aperture to f/8
--Matrix Meter

Enjoy... and by all means CENTER YOUR Planes... Until you have that down pat, you MUST CENTER your planes... :smile:

Bellucciman

2012-10-13, 08:17 AM

Greetings!
I submitted this one to Jetphotos.net too quickly and missed some dust and framing issues, so rejected. Here's another edit that hopefully addresses those issues. Does anyone see anything that I may have missed? Does it need a bit of contrast? Suggestions are more than appreciated!
Regards, Mike
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Jetblue22L/JFK%2009-23-2012/JFK_IL_RA96078_09_23_2012_1669_zpsb9e4efe6.jpg

MarkLawrence

2012-10-13, 08:35 AM

it does look a little low in the frame Mike - I usually line to center of the picture on the window line - I haven't looked at it in PS - just a casual quick glance...

Bellucciman

2012-10-13, 09:44 AM

Thanks Mark! Here's the edit:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/Jetblue22L/JFK%2009-23-2012/JFK_IL96-300_RA96078_09_23_2012_1669x2.jpg

MarkLawrence

2012-10-15, 06:59 AM

That looks pretty good to me!

gonzalu

2012-10-15, 08:11 AM

Way over sharpened in my opinion... :frown:

Just_Lucas

2012-10-23, 05:44 PM

..sigh rejected again for quality I had the iso on 1800 :( any ideas on how to make it a bit better too Lazy to upload To photobucket So using the Rejected one from airliners
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20121017_h1349727569.0654usairwaysexpress2website. jpg

moose135

2012-10-23, 06:05 PM

Start by shooting with the sun behind you, so your subject isn't backlit. Next, dial down the ISO to 100 - 200 (depending on your camera). It looks like you tried to brighten the shady side of the fuselage in post-processing, and often times (especially at higher ISO settings) that will generate noise in those darker areas. It also looks like an odd crop size - what aspect ratio did you use when sizing the image?

And let me add a comment on an earlier post you made...

Next time i go,I use a Nikon D70 do you think its enough to get it on airliners?
For starters, don't worry about what you need to get a shot on A.net or JP.net, just concentrate on learning the basics. Once you've mastered those, taking photos that are good enough for the two big upload sites will be much easier. Listen to the advice that we have given you in this thread and elsewhere. Learn your camera settings and what works in different conditions, shoot with the sun at your back so your subjects aren't backlit, work on proper composition, learn how to read the histogram and what it means. Post some examples in a thread here, ask for feedback, and try the techniques that are discussed. You have it easy - I've been taking pictures for over 40 years, back when you sent a roll of film off to be developed and waited to see what you got. With digital, you can get almost immediate feedback to see if you are getting it right. But more to that point, I didn't take good photos right off the bat (and sometimes I still don't...) but as with most things, practice makes you better. And you have a forum full of photographers who are more than willing to give you advice.

Just_Lucas

2012-10-23, 06:11 PM

uhm im not sure hehe..But next time when i go im going to use the eos Rebel Same iso as you said for the D70,And yes i did try to brighten/Contrast it a bit though i did a good job aperanlty airliners did not like it...
Start by shooting with the sun behind you, so your subject isn't backlit. Next, dial down the ISO to 100 - 200 (depending on your camera). It looks like you tried to brighten the shady side of the fuselage in post-processing, and often times (especially at higher ISO settings) that will generate noise in those darker areas. It also looks like an odd crop size - what aspect ratio did you use when sizing the image?

Roush6NY

2012-10-23, 06:27 PM

As Moose said it best, forget about JP or Anet. Learn how to take photos 1st the correct way, learn how to edit the right way. After you get all that down packed, study and read what those sites require, after that, try it the correct way and you will get better results

I am not trying to sound like an ******* but I feel like you keep asking the same questions regarding your photos being good enough for anet over and over but you are not taking the advice that has been provided to you from the members to make your photography better.

We are all here to help you, look I personally did not no anything about photography, I learned everything I know from the guys here and it has helped a ton!

Again, just listen and take the advice :)

gonzalu

2012-10-23, 06:56 PM

Lucas, didn't I tell you to shoot ONLY with the sun behind you? Just because you can't do it at your airport for whatever reason does not make it ok to do it with the sun in your face... period. As Kaz said, no more asking until you get ONE thing done that we have tried advising you on ... please... and I am being a jerk because I went out of my way to try and help you, here and off line... the above picture is just a smack in my face, never mind a.net :-(

Just_Lucas

2012-10-23, 08:03 PM

This is an old photo :( Not recentely...sorry i should of said that :(
Lucas, didn't I tell you to shoot ONLY with the sun behind you? Just because you can't do it at your airport for whatever reason does not make it ok to do it with the sun in your face... period. As Kaz said, no more asking until you get ONE thing done that we have tried advising you on ... please... and I am being a jerk because I went out of my way to try and help you, here and off line... the above picture is just a smack in my face, never mind a.net :-(

Just_Lucas

2012-10-23, 08:08 PM

i'll try to Its always hard for me to take advice for some reason >.> Thanks (: This photo is probally a month or two old now..and i dont blame you for what you said I can be sorda an ass sometimes when it comes to getting help Im not sure why.. :\
As Moose said it best, forget about JP or Anet. Learn how to take photos 1st the correct way, learn how to edit the right way. After you get all that down packed, study and read what those sites require, after that, try it the correct way and you will get better results

I am not trying to sound like an ******* but I feel like you keep asking the same questions regarding your photos being good enough for anet over and over but you are not taking the advice that has been provided to you from the members to make your photography better.

We are all here to help you, look I personally did not no anything about photography, I learned everything I know from the guys here and it has helped a ton!

Again, just listen and take the advice :)

Just_Lucas

2012-10-25, 11:06 PM

I know this aint A material but i just thought What you all think of it I think there waving at me...,This Was The same day as i shot that Us airways Same Date,I haven't been to the airport sense Manny told me that Info..I hope hes still not mad at me >.>
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/JetBlue1website.jpg

JDANDO

2012-11-10, 12:56 PM

Hey guys. This little guy dropped into to CYUL, very interesting to have a small prop land really long, while all the commercial stuff is landing normally.

Anyway, how is this for centering? I put the center of the frame on the fuselage.

Thanks

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-xsthS99/0/X3/1S7T4001c-fxcw-X3.jpg

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-xsthS99/0/X3/1S7T4001c-fxcw-X3.jpg

gonzalu

2012-11-10, 05:26 PM

Not mad at you at all :)

Kris V

2012-11-11, 01:55 AM

Here is a few I am unsure about for JP from Florida.
http://www.jetphotos.net/img/4/5/7/2/38629_1351726275.jpg
http://www.jetphotos.net/img/3/9/3/7/17681_1351727739.jpg
http://www.jetphotos.net/img/4/6/0/1/57373_1351728106.jpg
http://www.jetphotos.net/img/3/9/3/9/15862_1351736939.jpg

Just_Lucas

2012-11-14, 09:23 PM

Im thinking its going to get rejected For darkness...
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/AreboticTeam9.jpg
What about this Nice looking fellow?Even though cut the wing off But still pretty decent (:
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/F18Jet3.jpg
if you look very closly you can see a plane landing in the background (: IM not sure about this if they accept tails..
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/Mig17Tailwebsite.jpg

all for now Lost about 100 photos due to my memory card being corrupted still kind of upset about that :( Thanks everyone

gonzalu

2012-11-14, 09:33 PM

Actually, Lucas, the F-18 has TONS of potential if properly edited (it's a bit grainy and dark now) and even the Mig tail is promising!

gonzalu

2012-11-14, 09:34 PM

Kris yours look terrific ...

Just_Lucas

2012-11-14, 10:01 PM

Thanks (:,I just didn't know if airliners accepted Tails of an airplane But i'll try and edit the f18 later (: Thanks
Actually, Lucas, the F-18 has TONS of potential if properly edited (it's a bit grainy and dark now) and even the Mig tail is promising!

Just_Lucas

2012-11-14, 10:21 PM

I wonder what this would be caterogized as haha!
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/JetHouseWebsite.jpg
Old 1920's Plane I believe...
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/1920Plane.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/AreobitiicTeam7.jpg
Heres another verison of the f18 @ manny a bit edited.
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/F18jet2.jpg
I dont think this old P51 Mustang would get on :(

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/Eurocopter.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/Eurcopter5.jpg
One last photo

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/MachineGunFromTiger.jpg
Thanks for taking a look much apericated

Just_Lucas

2012-11-17, 06:05 PM

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/F18Jet31.jpg
@Manny how does it look?

MarkLawrence

2012-11-17, 08:31 PM

I will say on my Mac screen, it does look rather dark...

Delta777LR

2012-11-19, 03:35 PM

what about these anyone?

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/_MG_5773_edited-2.jpg

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/IMG_7880.jpg

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/_MG_6930_edited-1.jpg

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/IMG_9234_edited-1.jpg

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/_MG_7010.jpg

anything i should fix?

Just_Lucas

2012-11-23, 01:49 PM

Yes it does My mgi jsut got rejected for quality and stuff lol,Guess i gotta redit it.
I will say on my Mac screen, it does look rather dark...

megatop412

2012-11-25, 05:20 PM

Sergio maybe it's the laptop screen I'm looking at them on but they look a bit soft- I would say the Delta landing has the best chance of being accepted, that's a great shot

gonzalu

2012-11-25, 08:10 PM

The World Atlantic is overexposed a bit...

Just_Lucas

2012-11-27, 08:39 PM

I was Thinking The same Thing to.
The World Atlantic is overexposed a bit...

gonzalu

2012-11-28, 08:07 PM

I was Thinking The same Thing to.
Too, not to.

threeholerglory

2012-11-29, 12:50 PM

Too, not to.

Brootal.

gonzalu

2012-11-29, 01:03 PM

Spanish is my first language and in the town I grew up in, education was the way of life, true of my country but my town took it to an extreme. When I came to the US, my primary goal was to educate myself first in the basics (Grammar primarily) and I still find myself learning, everyday. I think there is no excuse not to try and strive for proper English writing and speaking and pronunciation and intonation, 'no whah am sayin homie? :tongue:

So, no disrespect meant, but I really don't like the misuse of 'to' and 'too' and the next common one, 'its' and 'it's'. It is so rampant there ought to be a congressional hearing about it... drives me insane!

JDANDO

2012-12-01, 11:27 AM

Hey guys!

Just wondering if I could get some input on how to level this one!

A rare 777 in Phoenix. Bringing the Mariners back from Spring Training in Japan.

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/6945879_ZFL7vj#!i=2247208411&k=2D58MQt&lb=1&s=O

Thanks in advance.

gonzalu

2012-12-01, 12:02 PM

Level looks good... it may be a TINY BIT low in frame for my taste :smile: I like placing the window line of the plane in the center of the frame vertically... just my own rule

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-BNqsTXb/0/O/i-BNqsTXb.jpg

megatop412

2012-12-01, 07:23 PM

Manny your attitude towards caring about education is refreshing. Hopefully it gains momentum with more people

Just_Lucas

2012-12-08, 06:39 PM

Any idea's? :Chttp://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/Baltimore.jpg

JDANDO

2012-12-08, 06:44 PM

Humm.

low contrast, bits cut off, soft, maybe noisy in the sky. But my monitor is crap.

nssd70

2012-12-08, 06:52 PM

Looks blurry,and Airliners and Jetphotos usually likes to see all of the tail.

Doug

Cary

2012-12-08, 07:18 PM

Any idea's? :C

Grainy, dirty, motive, size, soft, quality, contrast

Just_Lucas

2012-12-09, 12:57 AM

Yup kind of figured that saw it on mine to is there a way of fixing it?Damn inage sensor on dem D70's :C Thanks all by the way :)
Grainy, dirty, motive, size, soft, quality, contrast

Cary

2012-12-09, 01:16 AM

Yup kind of figured that saw it on mine to is there a way of fixing it?Damn inage sensor on dem D70's :C Thanks all by the way :)

Not really much hope on that image. Is that the way you shot the picture, or did you crop it like that afterward? It looks like it was cropped from a larger picture. If you want a tail photo, you usually want to keep the wing out of the frame, unless it adds visual interest (like a winglet with an airline's logo, etc.).

Just_Lucas

2012-12-09, 01:35 AM

I dont belive i did i'll have to look At it in the morning I have a simulair one of the mig with a plane in the background but It got rejected ill show you it later :C,I have a slight feeling that even if i work on the mig it will get rejected :C but atleast its a try.
Not really much hope on that image. Is that the way you shot the picture, or did you crop it like that afterward? It looks like it was cropped from a larger picture. If you want a tail photo, you usually want to keep the wing out of the frame, unless it adds visual interest (like a winglet with an airline's logo, etc.).

adscram14

2012-12-09, 09:49 AM

That's definitely a motive rejection, among the things the others have said.

Just_Lucas

2012-12-09, 05:37 PM

Hiya heres the photo of the Mig i was talking about I dont really know what to do with it Was rejected when i sent it in For grainy category and image i think..http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/Mig17Tailwebsite.jpg

deltaA330

2012-12-09, 10:24 PM

Any of these have a chance of getting accepted on Jetphotos or A.net? Tips? Thanks
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258324473/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa3...n/photostream/

megatop412

2012-12-09, 11:08 PM

jerslice

2012-12-09, 11:14 PM

Me either...might want to post them instead of linking.

deltaA330

2012-12-09, 11:18 PM

Sorry, these should work. BTW, I know it is slightly dark but I tried a little more exposure and some details of the ac were lost.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258324703/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258324473/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258324859/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8259393686/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258325223/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258325319/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258325419/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8259394260/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8259394362/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258325749/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8259394552/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8259394646/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258326065/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8259393350/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258326155/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8258326235/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8255147758/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8254074657/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8255147938/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8255148028/

jerslice

2012-12-09, 11:47 PM

Some might have a chance on jp.net...a.net is too much a stickler to take them. As you noticed though, Flickr is free :)

adscram14

2012-12-10, 07:17 AM

Some might have a chance on jp.net...a.net is too much a stickler to take them. As you noticed though, Flickr is free :)

If its a chance its a very small chance. Too dark and grainy!

Kris V

2012-12-10, 10:39 PM

Do you gentlemen think if this is good for Anet or not? (please be harsh)
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/o1355193398.8001img_6263anet.jpg

lijk604

2012-12-10, 10:48 PM

Probably get a dark rejection.

Kris V

2012-12-11, 01:28 AM

Hopefully this is an improvement?
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/c1355203183.3823img_6263anet.jpg

gonzalu

2012-12-12, 12:15 AM

lijk604

2012-12-12, 03:27 PM

Manny, your opinions are worth more than 2 cents, and are far from stupid.

moose135

2012-12-12, 06:10 PM

Manny, your opinions are worth more than 2 cents, and are far from stupid.
We need a "Like" button here...

Kris V

2012-12-12, 10:26 PM

Better but still contrast and brightness may be an issue... also feels oversharpned or soft/oversharpened in some areas in various places in the frame. Being that it is a low light shot, was the original shallow depth of field? Unless done on tripod/long exposure with a small aperture, I guess it was wide open or close to it. Just my stupid two cent observations :tongue:
The settings were ISO:160, F7.1, and 1/200...so not so much as a shallow depth of field. I see the contrast can be the issue, and giving a second look the brightness also seems to be a problem.
Your opinion is worth more then 2 cents. :wink:

Kris V

2012-12-12, 10:54 PM

Well did my best to fix it now:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/b1355367256.0863img_6263anet2.jpg

gonzalu

2012-12-12, 11:37 PM

Thanks guys... but today I went 4 for 11 so what do I know :tongue:

Kris, give it a shot I guess... I wouldn't dare, my luck isn;t great lately. I seem to get it all wrong from time to time ... ugh!

Kris V

2012-12-13, 02:54 AM

Thanks guys... but today I went 4 for 11 so what do I know :tongue:

Kris, give it a shot I guess... I wouldn't dare, my luck isn;t great lately. I seem to get it all wrong from time to time ... ugh!

Ok sounds good Manny! If it gets rejected I can always fix it. :biggrin:

deltaA330

2012-12-13, 07:03 PM

How are these photos? Could any make it on Jetphotos?? Sun finally decided to come out in west Michigan!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8270053721/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8270053797/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271118680/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271118748/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271118808/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271118876/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271118926/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8270054279/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271119116/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271119204/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8270054535/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271119364/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8270054711/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271119512/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8270054853/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8270054943/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271119734/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271119790/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8271119870/

Delta777LR

2012-12-13, 07:22 PM

you might wanna reupload your photos again.

deltaA330

2012-12-13, 07:26 PM

you might wanna reupload your photos again.

You mean to the forum? You can right click the thing and then open the image in a new tab. It should take you to my flickr.

Just_Lucas

2012-12-13, 07:56 PM

I love how people Ignored my Soviet photo XD :),Im not ready for this yet hehe still gotta learn Need to go out and get some photos this weekend..if only the weather wouldn't be so stormy...and hi manny :)

Delta777LR

2012-12-13, 08:15 PM

You mean to the forum? You can right click the thing and then open the image in a new tab. It should take you to my flickr.

I tried that, i didnt work

deltaA330

2012-12-13, 08:34 PM

I tried that, i didnt work

Ok then here's a link to my flickr photostream. http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltaa330/8270053721/ Scroll through until you get to a picture of a Delta Connection CRJ-200 registered N8409N. This picture shows the aircraft taxiing, not in the air. I say this because there are two pics of this CRJ on there. In total, there are 19 photos I want you, and others, to look at.

JDANDO

2012-12-21, 10:28 PM

Hey guys.

Got this image earlier this week in a bit of a snowstorm. How does it look? The plane was heading towards de-icing.http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/potn/i-Hqbx74t/0/X3/1S7T6446n3751b-X3.jpg

Levels?
Horizon

Thanks in advance

Just_Lucas

2012-12-23, 06:30 PM

This is the farthest I've gotten with the F18..I Dont know what else to fix :C Any suggestions/Comments would be gratefully appreciated
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/F18Jet31.jpg

JDANDO

2012-12-23, 07:14 PM

This is the farthest I've gotten with the F18..I Dont know what else to fix :C Any suggestions/Comments would be gratefully appreciated

dark and grainy. :frown:

Another one for the personal collection.

adscram14

2012-12-23, 09:19 PM

I second Jeremy's opinion. Also a little blurry.

gonzalu

2012-12-23, 10:39 PM

Quick and dirty levels... nothing fancy...

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-3ncxkMs/0/O/i-3ncxkMs.jpg

Just_Lucas

2013-01-07, 09:56 PM

why thankyouuuuu manny c:,i didn't know what to do with it lol.
Quick and dirty levels... nothing fancy...

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-3ncxkMs/0/O/i-3ncxkMs.jpg

wunaladreamin

2013-01-07, 10:11 PM

Lucas, learn the histogram. It is absolutely key in your exposure problems.

gonzalu

2013-01-07, 10:19 PM

Lucas, Kenny did not tell you am a cheater. I learned photography from the likes of Ansel Adams and learned to place gray levels in different brightness levels. Unfortunatley many poeople do not have that basic understanding of light. It is an INVALUABLE lesson...

The Negative: Exposure and Development, 1949. ISBN 0-8212-0717-2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0821207172)

This should be REQUIRED by all new photographers... I tried to memorize it but still have not been able to master it. Digital is much like it, aside from the obvious way data is recorded as opposed to how film emulsions clump up depending on their chemical composition and makeup.. But it is close enough :smile:

Just_Lucas

2013-01-07, 10:34 PM

yeah haha so am i c: Next two years of photography for me and graudating with photography degree c: so im learning like you (: im not the only Photographer in my family though my uncle is a famous photographer so..he helps me aswell :) thanks for your help by the way hehe
Lucas, Kenny did not tell you am a cheater. I learned photography from the likes of Ansel Adams and learned to place gray levels in different brightness levels. Unfortunatley many poeople do not have that basic understanding of light. It is an INVALUABLE lesson...

The Negative: Exposure and Development, 1949. ISBN 0-8212-0717-2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0821207172)

This should be REQUIRED by all new photographers... I tried to memorize it but still have not been able to master it. Digital is much like it, aside from the obvious way data is recorded as opposed to how film emulsions clump up depending on their chemical composition and makeup.. But it is close enough :smile:

deltaA330

2013-01-09, 05:27 PM

Do these photos look oversharpened? Thanks

http://www.jetphotos.net/img/4/2/3/4/74293_1357683432.jpg

http://www.jetphotos.net/img/4/7/9/8/81639_1357683897.jpg

http://www.jetphotos.net/img/3/4/7/5/81423_1357684574.jpg

Roush6NY

2013-01-09, 05:33 PM

They do look over sharpened, its very obvious on the reg #s and the acft titles ( esp the middle shot )

deltaA330

2013-01-09, 05:45 PM

Ok thanks

deltaA330

2013-01-09, 07:24 PM

What do you guys think of these?
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/602808_3563260819828_1672693458_n.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/13723_3563260779827_208970525_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/75322_3563261059834_817981784_n.jpg
Compared with these...
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/27297_3578118271255_363913791_n.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/553113_3578118311256_1704682791_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/385348_3578118031249_1440907_n.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/19299_3578118391258_2051764643_n.jpg

Delta777LR

2013-01-27, 04:47 PM

on the embarer take off shot u have a dust spot to the right near the top. Also u gotta watch with the sky it likes when u decrease the noise the sky looks more like minupitle digital. Best thing to do that i mostly do is using the wand inverting it only to the aircraft and and modify it by one the USM and u can decrease the noise/grain only to the aircraft.

RomNYC

2013-01-30, 04:08 PM

NYCAers, your thoughts on this? Thanks in advance :)

http://www.instantscaptured.com/photos/i-wM7wdK5/0/L/i-wM7wdK5-L.jpg

gonzalu

2013-01-30, 05:00 PM

RomNYC

2013-01-30, 05:25 PM

Nice shot Rom... To be really anal, I would move it left in frame a few pixels until it is PERFECTLY centered... also, A.net may consider it a bit overexposed, perhaps JP.net as well... did you get my e-mail about hardware calibration?

Also, at this size, it looks a bit soft. I say you should post an 1000px wide (minimum) or anythign up to 1600px wide (max) and then let us judge... Judging it at this resolution will not be a good final opinion...

Thanks Manny. I do agree on the overexposure, I realized that as soon as I sent my previous message. The actual photo is 1024px wide, but I didn't want to congest the thread with a bigger file. You may view it full size here: http://www.instantscaptured.com/Portfolio/Misc/Misc/24911563_CvJWr3#!i=2343596936&k=wM7wdK5&lb=1&s=O

Let me know if the additional edit looks better?

Re: hardware calibration, remember who you're talking to ;) I know what it means, but I have no idea what to do about it. Is it even worth doing on a 6 year-old 13-inch Mac?

Thanks for your input!

gonzalu

2013-01-30, 05:50 PM

Rom,

Is the ORIGINAL out of camera image OOF? or blurred in any way? The 1023px wide image you uploaded looks soft/oversharpened... which means it was soft to start and then oversharpened to compensate. The jaggies look rough and still looks soft... Can you send me the OUT OF CAMERA RAW or the JPG off line? I can give you a better opinion that way. This particular one is not going to have an easy time during screening :)

Hardware calibration works on ANY computer :) I have yet to find one that won't do it.

Thankfully, all Macs have decent panels to begin with so your road will be fairly straight without much traffic. You have to buy a piece of hardware that sits in front of your screen and measures the colors and brightenss of the screen and then createsa CUSTOM color profile you install on your operating system. Sometimes the changes can be DRAMATIC to not that much. But at least you have the same or as close to similar look as that of a screener or Cary, myself and anyone else here who has a hardware calibrated monitor.

My reds should be about 99.99% exactly the same as that shown on Cary's monitor... that I can guarantee... Software calibration will be VERY poor but BETTER than NOTHING! ... the very least you can do is calibrate your Gamma manually...

http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/ss/using-display-calibrator-assistant.htm

RomNYC

2013-01-30, 05:57 PM

Will do.

It does not appear OOF to *me*, but you may have another opinion. Let me know. My originals DO look soft, no question about that. That was shot at either 1/1250 or maybe even 1/1600, why don't I get something sharper? Sometimes I question the way I follow an aircraft with the camera as I am shooting. Might be something to work on over there.

gonzalu

2013-01-30, 08:47 PM

Rom, it is not related to shutter speed or motion blur I am afraid. Looks to me to be lens quality and conditions. So they look ghosted in sharp contrast areas... a few things contribute to this..

With GOOD system components, this is likely caused by Heat Haze or Turbulence as is the case with my images from that day. I TOO have the dreaded ghosted edges on contrast boundaries like where the titles edges meet the white fuselage. Unfortunately, I was en-route to (unnamed location) when this plane came in so I don;t have an exact comparison, but, my Caribbean Air 737s do look slightly mushy as well.

Another thing that causes this is poor lens quality. Lower end lenses have much less corrective optics (less elements) no Aspehrical elements (those elements that are NOT perfectly spherical on purpose to focus different wavelengths properly on the focus plane. Those are HAND POLISHED/CUT and are expensive) or expensive coatings ...

Finally, a filter mounted in front of your lens could also help (by help I mean HELP NEGATIVELY by introducing TWO more air to glass surfaces that can reflect light and reduce contrast) depending on the light angles, shading of the front element, etc.

In the case of your image it is my feeling that the lens construction combined with the absolute horrible conditions on the 26th (Super Cold and Full Bright Sun near Water) contributed to the less than stellar results, myself included.

Tried to do the best I could in post... however, your resulting CROPPED image is less than 2900px wide so reducing that to even 1000px will not help hide the flaws completely ... that said, it can still be passable, you be the judge... (images are 1024px wide but display here compressed by the vBulletin Theme... please right-click view image in Firefox to view original FULL SIZE and full quality... )

ORIGINAL

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-j27vpZs/0/XL/i-j27vpZs-XL.jpg

EDIT

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-xnTqmPv/0/XL/i-xnTqmPv-XL.jpg

...

Also be careful with those nasty dust spots... they are quite visible...

RomNYC

2013-01-30, 09:30 PM

Not a lot in my favor on this one! Thanks Manny, this failure at least gave me a nice photography lesson from you :tongue: Hopefully I'll find a couple of decent shots from that session, in spite of the conditions.

gonzalu

2013-01-30, 09:59 PM

Rom, I think the shot properly edited (feel free to use my edit) has a good chance with JetPhotos but maybe not so much with A.net... you should try, your mileage may vary. Depends on the screener sometimes if the first screener decides he/she likes it, the rest of the team may not see it and get accepted straight through. If the team gets to vote on it as it is done often lately, your chances of pleasing them all is much tougher :/

Kris V

2013-02-02, 04:46 AM

How would these fair for Airliners?
(Please be harsh)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8496/8437509662_a56960cd96_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8213/8436426571_0bbba76460_o.jpg

gonzalu

2013-02-02, 06:03 AM

Beautiful shots Kris...

The Everts Cargo is a bit low in frame and may get a motive rejection. Not sure but, I see no other DC-6 shots cropped like this in the db. Maybe if you cropped by the wing root? I don;t really know.

The 77F looks a bit dark; could use some more exposure. Not so much to kill the mood, but someone may feel it should be brighter MOTIVE-wise... if the intent is to show the sunset, keep it bright and more yellow. Your call.

I recently got a similar shot as the Everts rejected about three times, three different crops, all motive related due to the crop. That is a tough one and now I just stay away from that sort of crop... YMMV

Kris V

2013-02-02, 03:32 PM

gonzalu

2013-02-02, 03:47 PM

Kris, in my opinion, the Everts may look better in 3x2 instead of 4x3 ratio... to my eyes a long fuselage looks best in a long thin frame rather than a square one, but of course, that is all subjective :wink:

Kris V

2013-02-02, 06:39 PM

RomNYC

2013-02-03, 10:25 PM

Thoughts on this one? Main point of concern is the composition, since I purposefully moved the plane to the right to show the moon.

Full size: http://www.instantscaptured.com/Portfolio/Misc/Misc/24911563_CvJWr3#!i=2349589366&k=CbKVQ5r&lb=1&s=O

http://www.instantscaptured.com/photos/i-CbKVQ5r/0/L/i-CbKVQ5r-L.jpg

JDANDO

2013-02-03, 10:29 PM

I like the composition, not sure jp will like it, but give it a go.

RomNYC

2013-02-03, 11:11 PM

Thanks Jeremy. Won't cost anything to give it a try, although I feel it's a little low in frame as I look at it now.

Kris V

2013-02-04, 03:08 AM

Looks good to me, though I think might be the small size but a tad oversharp?

gonzalu

2013-02-04, 09:25 AM

While it's a few pixels high in frame, I say it isn;t that bad for centered (although stabbing the right frame too much for my taste :smile:)

It is certainly a bit oversharpened...

deltaA330

2013-02-06, 07:27 PM

Guys what do you think of this pic of the helicopter? My other one keeps getting rejected for either soft or too small in frame. I still believe it is a great shot, but whatever it is their loss not mine :). So here is my last try at getting a pic of this chopper on jetphotos. Luckily it isn't the end of the world if it doesn't because I see this nearly every time I go out to GRR!
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8452137592_6bcac693bb_b.jpg

Also how about this pic? 5th time trying to nail this horizon level...
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/555981_3747151416978_1922677585_n.jpg

MarkLawrence

2013-02-06, 08:30 PM

lijk604

2013-02-06, 08:35 PM

deltaA330

2013-02-06, 08:44 PM

The Beechjet will be rejected for the horizon - use the horizontal of the terminal roof to align that - it will work a lot better. I think the helicopter is a little soft - it also seems a little high in the frame - but - it sure is salvageable!! Shout if you need help with the edit!

Actually that was my problem. I did that and it was rejected for horizon unlevel. Manny helped me realize that since the roof of the terminal is slanted back from where I was shooting, it should slant to the right while the tower is perfectly straight and level.

deltaA330

2013-02-06, 08:46 PM

The Beechjet also has jaggies at the nose end of the striping. Don't let Anet/JP be your judge of good photos. I like 'em and I also like the one of the 76 with the snow that you tried getting on there.
Chalk it up to their loss, but put 'em on your own page (Flickr, Smugmug, etc...) they will garner a good number of hits.

I don't think jetphotos is too over picky, plus those come out a lot more in these forums, it is not as bad at the full 1200 pixels. That's not why it has been rejected 4 times (horizon, horizon, horizon, HORIZON!!!)

I agree that it is their loss. Oh well! I guess that's what I get for going for something other than a side shot :).

gonzalu

2013-02-06, 09:34 PM

Alex,

The helo is certainly soft... butthat's not because of sharpening, it is because of Distance... meaning it was really far and you probably only got about 1500 pixels on the frame with the helo in them and then cropped a lot... that's what it looks like. The landing shot, you got it, the terminal is NOT level and should not be... Mark, see my post on the rejections thread... I show the Google Maps sat image with comments... it best explains the problem. With no horizon in sight, your best bet is the verticals... the one above is still slightly CCW even without measuring I can tell.. .One trick used by screeners to quickly tell is to use the frame of the BROWSER to check the level.. so do that too... move the mouse to the edge of your browser and shrink the edge until it touches the lines in the picture you're checking for level... works! :-)

That building is about 45 degrees right yaw to the photographer position... I would expect it to sink even lower :tongue:

lijk604

2013-02-13, 09:57 PM

Lucas,

For your personal collection these are really nice shots. I'm sorry to say that jp/ANet probably will reject them.

1) Weird crop, but most important, the prop is soft/blurry

2) Horribly un-level, and no depth of field, only the wingtip in focus. (Personally, fix the level, and this is a great shot to me)

3, 4 & 5) Too much dead space around the aircraft. (Again for me, I love how you framed #4, but that is not what jp/anet wants)

6) Not level & wingtip cut off

7) Probably your best chance, but a little dark

8) Motive. Just an odd angle, that the screeners do not typically find appealing.

Just_Lucas

2013-02-13, 10:30 PM

Thanks and yeah I liked #2 and #1 but I didn't know how to Corp it right that well hehe, and thanks :), What about corping #4 a bit? I really did not know much to corp without messing the photo completely up,and thanks will fix the photos :)I have more But didn't want to Spam up the page with photos but i can upload the rest later i have a few Hdr's I dont know if they accept that but If you looked at My World war II photos topic i made those are the photos I took that day and thanks for the tips and glad you liked some of them :)
Lucas,

For your personal collection these are really nice shots. I'm sorry to say that jp/ANet probably will reject them.

1) Weird crop, but most important, the prop is soft/blurry

2) Horribly un-level, and no depth of field, only the wingtip in focus. (Personally, fix the level, and this is a great shot to me)

3, 4 & 5) Too much dead space around the aircraft. (Again for me, I love how you framed #4, but that is not what jp/anet wants)

6) Not level & wingtip cut off

7) Probably your best chance, but a little dark

8) Motive. Just an odd angle, that the screeners do not typically find appealing.

lijk604

2013-02-14, 10:05 AM

Lucas,
For #4, again, I love it. The way it's framed, it gives the aircraft room "to move" in your imagination. For jp/anet, though, they want them cropped as close to the edges of the aircraft as possible. Without seeing the original, I do not think you could crop it for them and keep the 3x2 or 4x3 ratio.

Anet will outright reject HDR's. JP is a little more forgiving, but they have to be really well done (ie: no halos, nothing grungy or blown out). It can be done, but even the best of us have had our HDR turned away.

Dont get discouraged. You have a good eye, you just need some polishing work. Look at the Spotting review threads, and look at the Anet/JP accepted threads. This will give you a good idea as to what is accepted and what is not.

And to echo William's comment: for props that are moving...get your shutter speed to around 1/250 at the fastest...if you can go slower without overall blur even better. But 1/250 unless they are taxi-ing will give you a nice blur to the props so it gives your subject life.

Just_Lucas

2013-02-17, 12:21 AM

Thanks :) so would you suggest me not corpping #4 and try uploading to Airliners or should i corp it a little?and i did not want one of them to be too bright but i will fix that aswell and thankyou for your help :) i will Fix them later. I also have more but didn't want to upload which i will later.
Lucas,
For #4, again, I love it. The way it's framed, it gives the aircraft room "to move" in your imagination. For jp/anet, though, they want them cropped as close to the edges of the aircraft as possible. Without seeing the original, I do not think you could crop it for them and keep the 3x2 or 4x3 ratio.

Anet will outright reject HDR's. JP is a little more forgiving, but they have to be really well done (ie: no halos, nothing grungy or blown out). It can be done, but even the best of us have had our HDR turned away.

Dont get discouraged. You have a good eye, you just need some polishing work. Look at the Spotting review threads, and look at the Anet/JP accepted threads. This will give you a good idea as to what is accepted and what is not.

And to echo William's comment: for props that are moving...get your shutter speed to around 1/250 at the fastest...if you can go slower without overall blur even better. But 1/250 unless they are taxi-ing will give you a nice blur to the props so it gives your subject life.

Just_Lucas

2013-02-20, 06:03 PM

Kay fixed two of them Of course without the copy right but how do they look?x:

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/Jet1I_zps0e09396e.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/P519I_zps8037a69a.jpg

wunaladreamin

2013-02-20, 06:30 PM

I think that first one is going to be booted as backlit.

heeshung

2013-02-20, 06:55 PM

The second needs to be either 3:2 or a 4:3.

moose135

2013-02-20, 06:57 PM

The second needs to be either 3:2 or a 4:3.
Just eyeballing it, the plane looks low in the frame as well.

gonzalu

2013-02-20, 06:57 PM

As stated above, and both will be SOFT as well ...

RomNYC

2013-02-20, 07:26 PM

Slight vignetting on #1 ?

JDANDO

2013-02-21, 08:00 PM

I would say slim to no chance on being accepted. It seems that you are taking some of your old shots and trying to fit them in the anet/jp format. I think you would be better served to go out spotting with the specific intent of getting something accepted on anet/jp. Use all the techniques you have been told in this and other threads. You should come away with a handful of shots when edited properly have a good chance of being accepted.

Just beceause anet/jp accepts a shot does not make it good.

Just_Lucas

2013-02-21, 08:06 PM

These are recent and not old shots I shot these a week or so Ago So there not Old Shots, But thanks and true
I would say slim to no chance on being accepted. It seems that you are taking some of your old shots and trying to fit them in the anet/jp format. I think you would be better served to go out spotting with the specific intent of getting something accepted on anet/jp. Use all the techniques you have been told in this and other threads. You should come away with a handful of shots when edited properly have a good chance of being accepted.

Just beceause anet/jp accepts a shot does not make it good.

Just_Lucas

2013-03-04, 06:46 PM

Its been a while sense i've edited the photos and well what do you think?and thank you for all the help it does mean a lot

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/p5126_zpsa4d0be52.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/nineONine_zpse5a9fbf9.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/P5131_zps2c922e4a.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/P51187_zps60b7efae.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/localjet24I_zps8b878752.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/Just_Lucas/MachineGunB297_zps7c0d0b3a.jpg

moose135

2013-03-04, 07:43 PM

#1 - P-51: Aircraft isn't centered, and you clipped the wingtip on the left side of the photo.
#2 - B-17: I don't like that crop, it looks cut off. I would prefer to see the entire #1 prop and forward part of the nacelle, plus the whole top turret. Plus, it looks dark/backlit to me. And on second look, it may need a touch of CW rotation, the edge of the building in the background looks like it is leaning.
#3 - P-51: Again, not centered in frame, more space on the right hand side of the photo. And the horizon doesn't "feel" right to me, maybe a touch of CW needed?
#4 - P-51 Tail: Horizon not level. I see what you were trying there, but the horizon bothers me too much for it to work.
#5 - BizJet: Not a fan of the tail-on shot, high in frame.
#6 - B-17 Waist Gun position: Not bad, I like this, but I'm not sure of the exposure, and I don't know about how you clipped the window at the top right - either show the whole thing, or be a little more aggressive in framing it, right now it looks like you got sloppy with cropping.

JDANDO

2013-03-04, 07:48 PM

Its been a while sense i've edited the photos and well what do you think?and thank you for all the help it does mean a lot

Wow.

Here are my observations;

#1 Bits cut off, soft, centering

#2 cropping, motive, backlit?

#3 soft, centering

#4 motive, level, soft

#5 soft, level

#6 motive

Have you been listening/understanding what has been suggested in many other emails? Any chance you can go out and shoot with someone, since it is obvious you are getting by reading emails/forum posts.

Cary

2013-03-04, 08:11 PM

Have you been listening/understanding what has been suggested in many other emails? Any chance you can go out and shoot with someone, since it is obvious you are getting by reading emails/forum posts.

I'd say no, because one thing that is completely correctable is the size/ratio, it has been brought up numerous times (along with the correct sizes), and most/all of these still don't meet those standards.

Roush6NY

2013-03-04, 09:09 PM

Dude .. Seriously, not trying to be a dick but please stop posting the same type of photos over and over. You get the same answers over and over and nothing changes. As I recall Manny has tried to help you from day one and I guess you have not taken any action. I have my self told you what to do.

So again, Please for now FORGET Anet and Jetphotos.

LEARN how to edit your photos, improve your photography, if you are so desperate for your photos to get on the 2 big sites, take your time and read and study as to what they want on their guides.

Just_Lucas

2013-03-04, 09:47 PM

yes i know haha im so use to just doing 8x10 im sorry I dont really know there image size :\ im just use to doing 8X10 lol but thank you for the help
I'd say no, because one thing that is completely correctable is the size/ratio, it has been brought up numerous times (along with the correct sizes), and most/all of these still don't meet those standards.

oh no dont worry your not being a dick but please try not to act like one. And i know hes helped me and i thank his help and dont worry im not Trying to get these photos on the "big" sites as you call them Im just trying to get them to look good..:) and im sure you would do the same thing to if you got a really good photo and you didn't know how to edit the first,second time you would post it on two-three times just to get it right so try not to criticize me..im sure you would do the same thing to and dont worry i am learing how to edit my photos and i was never desperate if i was desperate enough i would of gone WAY past this posting at least 6-7 photos or a whole slide show My goal here isn't to get them on A or J but would be nice but my goal here is simply learning how to edit aviation Photos/planes ect,and seeing who likes them or not And Im sure you were desperate at one point in your time to get your photos on as well but i can stop posting as i do post to much lol but just letting you know i was never "desperate" to get photos on.
Dude .. Seriously, not trying to be a dick but please stop posting the same type of photos over and over. You get the same answers over and over and nothing changes. As I recall Manny has tried to help you from day one and I guess you have not taken any action. I have my self told you what to do.

So again, Please for now FORGET Anet and Jetphotos.

LEARN how to edit your photos, improve your photography, if you are so desperate for your photos to get on the 2 big sites, take your time and read and study as to what they want on their guides.

wunaladreamin

2013-03-04, 09:59 PM

I give up too. This one is a real winner.

Lucas, click here and good luck. http://www.jid.me.uk/tutorial2.html

threeholerglory

2013-03-11, 07:47 PM

shot this with my phone...we'll see!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/b1363045585.1644n498cs.jpg

RomNYC

2013-03-11, 10:23 PM

oh no dont worry your not being a dick but please try not to act like one. And i know hes helped me and i thank his help and dont worry im not Trying to get these photos on the "big" sites as you call them Im just trying to get them to look good..:) and im sure you would do the same thing to if you got a really good photo and you didn't know how to edit the first,second time you would post it on two-three times just to get it right so try not to criticize me..im sure you would do the same thing to and dont worry i am learing how to edit my photos and i was never desperate if i was desperate enough i would of gone WAY past this posting at least 6-7 photos or a whole slide show My goal here isn't to get them on A or J but would be nice but my goal here is simply learning how to edit aviation Photos/planes ect,and seeing who likes them or not And Im sure you were desperate at one point in your time to get your photos on as well but i can stop posting as i do post to much lol but just letting you know i was never "desperate" to get photos on.

Proper punctuation will also play in your favor around here/anywhere.

gonzalu

2013-03-12, 10:13 AM

Mike, looks a bit oversharpened in some areas like stair handles and cheat lines... otherwise I like it :-) Good luck.

gonzalu

2013-03-12, 10:18 AM

oh no dont worry your not being a dick but please try not to act like one. And i know hes helped me and i thank his help and dont worry im not Trying to get these photos on the "big" sites as you call them Im just trying to get them to look good..:)

Lucas, this is the wrong thread for you. Please DO NOT post in this thread unless you are pre-screening to post to Airliners.net or JetPhotos.net or any other major database site. For general photo editing questions, you should be posting on the Photography sub-forum.

http://nycaviation.com/forum/forums/66-Photography

Thank you.

DISCLAIMER: I am NOT an administrator here. I am NOT a moderator here. But I am a user of the forum and I am trying to advise you so as to protect you from being banned or spammed or flamed. I am growing tired of your endless circular disregard for common sense and the kindness that was shown to you when you first came online here.

wunaladreamin

2013-03-12, 10:24 AM

Manny it's like dealing with a troll. The more you entertain him/her/it, the more post we will be seeing from him/her/it.

gonzalu

2013-03-12, 10:35 AM

Manny it's like dealing with a troll. The more you entertain him/her/it, the more post we will be seeing from him/her/it.

Kenny, you know me fairly well. I am [TRYING] to be civil, polite and professional. :smile:

megatop412

2013-03-12, 10:59 AM

I give up too. This one is a real winner.

Lucas, click here and good luck. http://www.jid.me.uk/tutorial2.html

Great link Kenny, guess I know what I'll be reading during my 2nd cup of coffee

NIKV69

2013-03-12, 11:20 AM

Jid Webb is a awesome photog and guy as well!

gonzalu

2013-03-12, 08:43 PM

That is certainly a great guide. It helped me a lot when I was lost during my first 100 rejections ...

wunaladreamin

2013-03-12, 10:20 PM

Jid Webb is a awesome photog and guy as well!
+1 for sure.

MarkLawrence

2013-03-12, 10:29 PM

Helped me no end as well - there have been a few good tutorials on the JP forums - the histogram discussion is another that comes to mind...

That is certainly a great guide. It helped me a lot when I was lost during my first 100 rejections ...

gonzalu

2013-03-12, 10:36 PM

Although I believe much more in learning the theory and the mechanics and science that make the controls do what they do... So to that end:

Color balance: "The Canyon Conondrum" by Dan Margulies
Light: "Light: Science and Magic: An Introduction to Photographic Lighting" by Paul Fuqua and Fil Hunter

After reading just those two books, my way of seeing the natural world as a photographer totally changed for me.

Knowing the basic components, it is much easier to apply the science of photography to any new purpose... from Landscape to Aviation to Studio... it becomes more about how to set the controls than about what to do. Exposure is how everything starts.

RomNYC

2013-03-24, 02:28 PM

Bonjour from France, all. Been playing around lately and would like comments on the following photo. It was already rejected by anet for reasons that all made sense, so this is a new version. Beyond getting this pre-screened, I would really like to understand what JP/anet really expect/want. Most of my rejections are due to softness and low contrast (like many people I think)... which is fine, but I'm having troubles grasping the result that the screeners want to see. Especially contrast, I'm usually way off. I'm trying to learn my histogram, the fatter it gets the more contrast you get, but I guess I don't know what the sweet spot is.

Anyway, here goes, let me know. Full version here: http://www.instantscaptured.com/Portfolio/Aviation/Aviation/27631215_bDNsjr#!i=2423348315&k=Gpk7GDv&lb=1&s=O

http://www.instantscaptured.com/Portfolio/Aviation/Aviation/i-Gpk7GDv/0/XL/DSC_0412-2-XL.jpg

Edit: Adding a second image for your comments. Full version: http://www.instantscaptured.com/Portfolio/Aviation/Aviation/27631215_bDNsjr#!i=2423674661&k=M9dshdq&lb=1&s=O

http://www.instantscaptured.com/Portfolio/Aviation/Aviation/i-M9dshdq/0/X2/DSC_0406-X2.jpg

moose135

2013-03-24, 08:54 PM

I would really like to understand what JP/anet really expect/want....but I'm having troubles grasping the result that the screeners want to see.
Welcome to the club, we've had jackets made.
:wink:

RomNYC

2013-03-24, 09:51 PM

Welcome to the club, we've had jackets made.
:wink:

Hehe. I realize there is not one universal formula, and I try to inspire myself from what I see on the DBs so I do have an idea. I should've worded my post better. I guess I'm just trying to figure out how to notice when my contrast is way off as I'm doing my post processing, and when it's closing in on an acceptable level. I don't have that "eye" quite just yet.

JDANDO

2013-03-24, 09:54 PM

Welcome to the club, we've had jackets made.
:wink:

Bwahahahaha

Okay kids. What do you think about this one for jp? Unfortunately when she pulled away from her gate she went into the black hole of the ramp. Figured it was worth a shot since it is a rare bird, and the spotting location is only available in the winter (15' high snow bank so I had a view over the fence).

Who knows if any will be flying next year, KLM has already retired 3/13 MD-11's.

http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Airplanes/14march2013-cyul/i-QVT54Bf/0/X3/1S7T3026ph-kcc-X3.jpg

thanks

JDANDO

2013-03-24, 10:03 PM

Bonjour from France, all. Been playing around lately and would like comments on the following photo. It was already rejected by anet for reasons that all made sense, so this is a new version. Beyond getting this pre-screened, I would really like to understand what JP/anet really expect/want. Most of my rejections are due to softness and low contrast (like many people I think)... which is fine, but I'm having troubles grasping the result that the screeners want to see. Especially contrast, I'm usually way off. I'm trying to learn my histogram, the fatter it gets the more contrast you get, but I guess I don't know what the sweet spot is.

Anyway, here goes, let me know. Full version here: http://www.instantscaptured.com/Portfolio/Aviation/Aviation/27631215_bDNsjr#!i=2423348315&k=Gpk7GDv&lb=1&s=O

Edit: Adding a second image for your comments. Full version: http://www.instantscaptured.com/Portfolio/Aviation/Aviation/27631215_bDNsjr#!i=2423674661&k=M9dshdq&lb=1&s=O

Hey Rom;

What to jp/anet like to see? Very contrasty and over-sharp in my opinion. The first one looks like it has a blue tint to me, the second looks decent for jp for an evening shot. I have had pretty good luck just using the auto contrast feature in CS3. Often the shot does not look a lot like what I remember the actual image looked in my minds eye. After auto contrast and levels adjustment it is just another catalog shot.

I will take a whack at the originals.
jeremy in mn

threeholerglory

2013-03-29, 08:44 PM

I don't have overly high hopes for this one but maybe it'll get in...Trying to go 2 for 2 off my phone...that'd be a better ratio than my actual camera!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/r1364593793.4095n414er.jpg

Jared Blech

2013-04-08, 01:02 AM

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/z1365397132.4597img_3014.jpg
comments?

Delta777LR

2013-04-08, 01:40 AM

It could be me but possibly odds are the aircraft dont look fully centered. we can see what Manny, Cary, Kenny or Nick V will say

Cary

2013-04-08, 02:04 AM

Could have an issue with Soft, Grain (probably added when A.net processed the pic), and Centering (left to right). A.net likes their pics really sharp.

Jared Blech

2013-04-08, 02:45 AM

thanks guys.

Jared Blech

2013-04-08, 03:13 AM

a.net is being annoying rn, and is having the bug where it gives you the default image. i'll show you the revised copy tomorrow. Goodnight everybody.

Jared Blech

2013-04-08, 09:17 AM

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/h1365426522.6757img_3014.1.jpg
Here is the updated one. comments, tips much appriciated!-

wunaladreamin

2013-04-08, 06:28 PM

Looks soft in the nose from the iPad.

Jared Blech

2013-04-08, 09:58 PM

http://ww.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/v1365472593.4864img_3039.jpg
What about this one guys. If you have a comment/tip, can you guys maybe explain what I can do to fix the issue.
Also, it seems I am having trouble with sharpening the aircraft, when I see others on A.net and even the American 773 manny edited for me, my sharpens just don't look good... Any help is much appreciated.

adscram14

2013-04-09, 06:24 AM

Looks low in the frame.

RomNYC

2013-04-09, 06:52 AM

Swiss looks a little red.

Jared Blech

2013-04-09, 09:24 AM

Thanks everybody, anything on the sharpning??

Jared Blech

2013-04-23, 08:22 PM

Ok guys, lets hear it!!!
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/d1366690466.1512img_4176-recovered.4.jpg

wunaladreamin

2013-04-23, 08:47 PM

Too much dead space around the plane. It'll get a motive rejection.

Jared Blech

2013-04-23, 09:15 PM

Is there anything i can do about that or do i have to start over? :(
Is that the only reason (please tell me if there are others, i like constructive criticism)
Thanks wunala!

wunaladreamin

2013-04-23, 09:19 PM

I'm looking on the iPhone right now and that stands out more than anything. I think it's a tad dark and contrasty too. Easy fixes

Jared Blech

2013-04-23, 09:24 PM

Thanks again, hate being a nuisance... Is there a way to take away the dead space without losing the 1200 by 800 image size??

RomNYC

2013-04-23, 10:02 PM

I think it's a lovely shot but yes, try a closer crop. I also find it slightly oversharpened. And knowing Anet, possible magenta cast too.

Don't take me for granted though... takes me 3 tries to get to Anet, and only because I appeal the 3rd rejection haha.

wunaladreamin

2013-04-24, 09:08 AM

Thanks again, hate being a nuisance... Is there a way to take away the dead space without losing the 1200 by 800 image size??
You don't have the original?!!

Jared Blech

2013-04-24, 10:04 AM

I do... If you are talking about the raw file, i just dont feel like i can edit it like that again... Still a noob
Is it a good idea to crop and size last after you save an edited full size and then u can crop and size as you like?

wunaladreamin

2013-04-24, 10:08 AM

I personally crop and correct the horizon leveling first, then alleviate dust spots, then correct exposure, then sharpen and run noise reduction, then I save as a tiff. After that ill resize, save as a jpeg and upload

sdspinelli2

2013-05-01, 06:59 PM

Im planning on uploading this one to Airliners, does anyone have any input before I do?
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a522/sdspinelli/ChinaAirlines__zpsff2a579e.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/sdspinelli/media/ChinaAirlines__zpsff2a579e.jpg.html)

Aviation.High.Guy

2013-05-01, 10:32 PM

Not bad. I would rotate image CCW a few degrees. Level her pitch attitude. Something doesn't feel right about the nose dropped slightly.

RomNYC

2013-05-01, 11:43 PM

Got a feeling that Anet will find it overexposed... Just my own experience. A tad more contrast needed as well.

sdspinelli2

2013-05-02, 02:58 PM

I made some adjustments, how does this look? http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a522/sdspinelli/ChinaAirlines3__zpsac033b70.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/sdspinelli/media/ChinaAirlines3__zpsac033b70.jpg.html)

Cary

2013-05-02, 03:10 PM

Don't know if it's Photobucket doing some compression, but there's a lot of JPG artifacting. Especially noticeable near the windows.

sdspinelli2

2013-05-02, 07:06 PM

I think it might be photobucket because I didn't compress it yet, is there anything else you see wrong with it before I upload it?
Don't know if it's Photobucket doing some compression, but there's a lot of JPG artifacting. Especially noticeable near the windows.

Cary

2013-05-02, 07:50 PM

I think it might be photobucket because I didn't compress it yet, is there anything else you see wrong with it before I upload it?

I would leave a couple more pixels of sky behind the horizontal stabilizer (unless that's where it needed to be cropped). After that, you can upload it, and send a link to the picture on the A.net server. I could take a closer look there.

sdspinelli2

2013-05-02, 08:42 PM

If I were to add more space behind the tail I would have to do some cloning (do they allow cloning?) Here is the final image http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/v1367541610.5256chinaairlines33.jpg
I would leave a couple more pixels of sky behind the horizontal stabilizer (unless that's where it needed to be cropped). After that, you can upload it, and send a link to the picture on the A.net server. I could take a closer look there.

Cary

2013-05-02, 09:08 PM

If I were to add more space behind the tail I would have to do some cloning (do they allow cloning?) Here is the final image http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/v1367541610.5256chinaairlines33.jpg

Cloning is a big no-no. You can get banned. I would say it's close, but the sky may be too grainy or have some quality issues. Also, I've been rejected for not having enough whitespace around the aircraft (on a photo with more space than this one), and the horizontal stabilizer is almost touching the edge here.