No More F-22s

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from Aviation Week

Gates: No Substantive Reason For More F-22s
Jul 21, 2009
Bettina H. Chavanne

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With a congressional vote on F-22 funding imminent, Defense Secretary Robert Gates reiterated his objection to buying more of the aircraft in a Pentagon briefing July 20.

"What I've not heard is a substantive reason for adding more aircraft in terms of our strategic needs," he told reporters. When questioned about the loss of jobs resulting from the F-22's cancellation, Gates said the aerospace industry will see a "substantial increase" in jobs due to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter "if we don't drain money away from it."

Gates accused lawmakers of "wheeling and dealing&for pet projects," which has presented DOD with "even more difficult choices& We've got to get the money from somewhere."

Gates also announced a temporary increase in the U.S. Army's authorized active duty end strength, from 547,000 to 569,000. The 22,000-troop increase would plug holes created by increased violence in Afghanistan and Pakistan, a rising number of nondeployable troops and the end of stop-loss, according to Gates. The additional forces will "ensure deployed units are properly manned" and will not be used to create additional brigades.

The temporary increase will not require additional funding in fiscal 2009 or '10, but Gates indicated money may be needed after that point.

i wonder if LM is going to increase petitioning the gov't to export these airplanes. i know israel and japan are both super interested in it...

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"WASHINGTON – The Senate voted to terminate further production of the Air Force's topline F-22 fighter jets Tuesday, giving President Barack Obama a major spending victory and siding with the Pentagon's desire for smaller jets better suited to 21st century wars.
F-22 supporters complained the action would be a blow to long-term national defense — and cost thousands of jobs in the middle of the recession.
The 58-40 vote to cut the money from a $680 billion defense bill was a hard-fought victory for Obama, who had threatened to veto defense spending legislation if it included funds for more F-22s. Wavering lawmakers heard repeatedly from Vice President Joe Biden, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and other senior administration officials.
The vote was "a signal that we are not going to continue to build weapons systems with cost overruns which outlive their requirements for defending this nation," declared Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who joined Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin in arguing for cutting off production.
The $1.75 billion was aimed at adding seven F-22s to the current plan to deploy 187 of the twin-engine stealth planes. Of those 187, the Air Force has received 143 and is waiting for delivery of 44 more.
Gates, first appointed by President George W. Bush, wants to shift military spending to programs more attuned to today's unconventional wars. The F-22, designed for midair combat, has been irrelevant to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and therefore unused there.
Gates and other Pentagon officials want to put more emphasis on the next-generation F-35 Lightning, a single-engine jet that would be used primarily to attack targets on the ground and would replace the F-16 and the Air Force's aging fleet of A-10s. The Air Force plans to buy more than 1,700 F-35s, which are currently being produced in small numbers for testing purposes. Versions of that plane, known as the Joint Strike Fighter, are also being built for the Navy and Marine Corps, another plus for supporters.
The defense bill has money to build 30 F-35s.
"The president really needed to win this vote," said Levin, D-Mich., not only on the merits of the planes but "in terms of changing the way we do business in Washington."
"I reject the notion that we have to waste billions of taxpayer dollars on outdated and unnecessary defense projects to keep this nation secure," Obama said after the vote.
On the other side, supporters of the program insisted the F-22 is important to U.S. security interests — pointing out that China and Russia are developing planes that can compete with it — and needed to protect aerospace jobs in a bad economy.
"The Chinese are really anxiously awaiting this vote," said Sen. Saxby Chambliss, a Republican from Georgia whose state would be one of the hardest hit by the shutdown of F-22 production. The planes are being built by Lockheed Martin Corp., also a major contractor for the F-35.
Chambliss added that "there are a lot of people who think we ought to just step in line, salute the Pentagon and move ahead with what the Pentagon says." That, he said, is not the role of Congress.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, added that the F-35 is designed to supplement, not replace, the F-22, "the "NASCAR racer of this air dominance team." Supporters of the F-22 have put the number needed at anywhere from 250 to 380.
According to Lockheed, 25,000 people are directly employed in building the F-22, and an additional 70,000 have indirect links, particularly in Georgia, Texas and California.
Jodi Rell, the Republican governor of Connecticut, said thousands of jobs were at risk in her state, where United Technologies Corp.'s Pratt & Whitney subsidiary produces F-22 engines.
"In the midst of the greatest economic turmoil since the Great Depression — and at a time when Congress has approved countless hundreds of billions of dollars in stimulus funding and bailouts for banks and automotive manufacturers — I cannot understand why this relatively small amount of money is seen as a stumbling block," she said.
Levin suggested that some workers might be shifted to F-35 production. "We have to find places for people who are losing their jobs," he said.
While Tuesday's vote gives momentum to the anti-F-22 side, a final decision must wait for the House and Senate to reach a compromise on their differing defense bills. The House last month approved its version of the defense bill with a $369 million down payment for 12 additional F-22 fighters.
The House Appropriations Committee, which determines actual annual spending levels, last week also endorsed more F-22 money and approved $560 million for an alternate engine for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. That engine program is another that Obama, backed by the Pentagon, says is unwarranted and would subject the entire bill to a veto.
The Senate defense bill authorizes $550 billion for defense programs and $130 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and for other anti-terrorist operations.
In the only other vote of the day, the the Senate gave 93-1 support to an amendment proposed by Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., to extend authority to increase Army strength by 30,000 over three years. Gates on Monday announced plans to boost the size of the Army, now 547,000, by 22,000 soldiers."

Source- Yahoo news (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_defense_spending)