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Matt Molnar
10-19-2008, 09:31 AM
Powell endorses Obama for president (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/)
Republican ex-secretary of state calls Democrat ‘transformational figure’

WASHINGTON - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for president on Sunday, criticizing his own Republican Party for what he called its narrow focus on irrelevant personal attacks over a serious approach to challenges he called unprecedented.

Powell, who for many years was considered the most likely candidate to become the first African-American president, said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that he was not supporting Obama because of his race. He said he had watched both Obama and his Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, for many months and thought “either one of them would be a good president.” [Full Article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/)]

PhilDernerJr
10-19-2008, 10:07 AM
This is pretty big for me, as I'll follow Powell anywhere. This does surprise me a little.

Gerard
10-19-2008, 02:19 PM
This is pretty big for me, as I'll follow Powell anywhere. This does surprise me a little.

If you read his whole statement it shouldnt. He touched on the two big things that really bothered me....the selection of Palin as
the VP and the negative attacks by the McCain camp. I know both sides do that but McCains campaign IMO went above and beyond and
that junk just turns me off. It's the last resort of a loser. The thing is though McCain is an honorable, good person and I think he is being
manipulated by his campaign people to put out the negative stuff. At times he seems embarassed by it.
And you are right Phil. I love Colin Powell also and this is big, though the RNC guy on CNN this morning didnt think so. Man he tried to spin
it that it wasnt that big a deal. Yeah, okay.
OK off the soapbox and back to the NY Giants!!!

PhilDernerJr
10-19-2008, 07:40 PM
Wow. EVERYONE needs to watch the video of Colin Powell on Meet the Press. You can see why I love this guy. I was nearly brought to tears.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 0#27265490 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27265490#27265490)

I will now be voting for Barack Obama.

jran225
10-19-2008, 07:48 PM
Wow. EVERYONE needs to watch the video of Colin Powell on Meet the Press. You can see why I love this guy. I was nearly brought to tears.

I actually woke up this morning just in time to watch the interview on Meet the Press. I hadn't heard Powell speak for quite some time before this morning, and I was blown away by how accurately he summed up the current state of our country and by his excellent characterization of Obama. Anybody who is in doubt about their choice of candidate must watch this interview!

Greets,
-Omar S.

T-Bird76
10-19-2008, 07:52 PM
Wow this is pretty big..I was shocked when I heard this today. This might put the final nail into McCain's race.

bonanzabucks
10-19-2008, 10:21 PM
Powell eloquently summed up what I've been thinking and saying for a long time now: The Republican Party is sick and desperately needs to clean itself up. It's been getting worse over the years and is run by a bunch of stupid ideologues who care not for facts, common sense and have a narrow vision of how to solve problems and their world views. Not to mention, this party has become so hypocritical when it comes to things such as foreign intervention and fiscal conservatism as well as individual freedoms. I'm very uncomfortable with the religious right calling the shots of the Republican Party.

I don't necessarily like Obama or his policies. He's way too left for me. But the Republican Party desperately needs introspection and a thorough cleansing and perhaps this will happen with them being out of power for a good period of time.

Midnight Mike
10-21-2008, 09:02 AM
Worst kept surprise, media has been hinting about this for months... :mrgreen:

This endorsement is a strange one & I am tempted to call it an endorsement strictly on race, but, I will hold that opinion for now.

In the interview, this caught my attention:


Powell acknowledged Obama's thin resume, but, said he is surrounding himself with people who will be able to give him the expertise that he at the moment does not have.

Matt Molnar
10-21-2008, 09:55 AM
Powell acknowledged Obama's thin resume, but, said he is surrounding himself with people who will be able to give him the expertise that he at the moment does not have.
That was Bush's strategy, too, and that turned out pretty great! :borat:

moose135
10-21-2008, 11:51 AM
This endorsement is a strange one & I am tempted to call it an endorsement strictly on race, but, I will hold that opinion for now.
Did you listen to what Powell said, or are you just repeating the right-wing talking points?

Midnight Mike
10-21-2008, 12:33 PM
Did you listen to what Powell said, or are you just repeating the right-wing talking points?

I did listen to the speech & that was how I was able to type the quote :wink:

What I posted were my thoughts alone.

What I do like is how one minute Colin Powell was considered the house-negro in the President Bush Cabinet & now, the left is embracing Colin Powell.....

The attacks that were launched against Powell & Condolleza Rice were terrible....

Midnight Mike
10-21-2008, 12:37 PM
Powell eloquently summed up what I've been thinking and saying for a long time now: The Republican Party is sick and desperately needs to clean itself up. It's been getting worse over the years and is run by a bunch of stupid ideologues who care not for facts, common sense and have a narrow vision of how to solve problems and their world views.

I would have respected Powell much more if he had endorsed a 3rd party candidate, as the Democratic is not much better than the Republican party.

What scares me about a potential Obama presidency are the fools that will be riding his coat tails, namely: Sen Edward Kennedy, Sen. John Kerry, & even Daschle....

Obama has not separted himself from the far left loonies......

T-Bird76
10-21-2008, 12:41 PM
What scares me about a potential Obama presidency are the fools that will be riding his coat tails, namely: Sen Edward Kennedy, Sen. John Kerry, & even Daschle....

I'm not to concerned about Eddie boy...the fat bastard won't be around to much longer. Harsh statement, yes but he's a low life who got away with murder. Obama better be able to stand up to the party and put real leaders in positions or he'll be a one term President.

bonanzabucks
10-21-2008, 06:20 PM
Powell eloquently summed up what I've been thinking and saying for a long time now: The Republican Party is sick and desperately needs to clean itself up. It's been getting worse over the years and is run by a bunch of stupid ideologues who care not for facts, common sense and have a narrow vision of how to solve problems and their world views.

I would have respected Powell much more if he had endorsed a 3rd party candidate, as the Democratic is not much better than the Republican party.

What scares me about a potential Obama presidency are the fools that will be riding his coat tails, namely: Sen Edward Kennedy, Sen. John Kerry, & even Daschle....

Obama has not separted himself from the far left loonies......

Maybe, but , things can't get much worse than the way they are now. Look at the "winners" Bush aligned himself with. Heck, look at who Mac aligned himself with! Phil Gramm and Carly Fiorina? The former is responsible for this economic mess and the latter was the most incompetent CEO in history. And they were his economic advisers?

But at least you're honest enough to admit the Democrats are not much better than the Republicans and the Republicans haven't done a good job the last eight years.

mirrodie
10-21-2008, 07:05 PM
No one group is better.

Tom nailed it in another thread. We are stuck with few choices. I propose that if you can't vote on any on the available candidates, then there shoudl be a blank spot to vote for "NO CHOICE"

Feel bad for McCain, an honorable man who's campaign has dug at his morality. You can see it in the Wright issue. He's pulling punches when his team is telling them to play that card.

As for Palin, her only value is that she 'energizes' the camp. Well, if I needed a cheerleader/morale booster for the group, he could have called up Monica Lewinsky for that and still chosen a more appropriate running mate. :shock:

As for Obama and his left ways, hasn't history shown that most left leaders more more central once in office?

Gerard
10-21-2008, 07:32 PM
Obama has not separted himself from the far left loonies......
And McCain has not seperated himself rom the far right loonies.

Midnight Mike
10-22-2008, 05:16 AM
Obama has not separted himself from the far left loonies......
And McCain has not seperated himself rom the far right loonies.

Well, look at who McCain has surrounded himself with

Palin
Guilanni
Romney
Liberman

Midnight Mike
10-22-2008, 05:19 AM
I'm not to concerned about Eddie boy...the fat bastard won't be around to much longer. Harsh statement, yes but he's a low life who got away with murder. Obama better be able to stand up to the party and put real leaders in positions or he'll be a one term President.

Tommy

As much as I dislike Sen. Edward Kennedy, I would not disprect him in that fashion :evil: .....

Obama, has aligned himself with the Kennedy's.............

bonanzabucks
10-22-2008, 08:42 PM
Obama has not separted himself from the far left loonies......
And McCain has not seperated himself rom the far right loonies.

Well, look at who McCain has surrounded himself with

Palin
Guilanni
Romney
Liberman

You should add Phil Gramm and Carly Florina to that list.

T-Bird76
10-23-2008, 12:49 PM
[quote="T-Bird76":3g82k0hv]I'm not to concerned about Eddie boy...the fat bastard won't be around to much longer. Harsh statement, yes but he's a low life who got away with murder. Obama better be able to stand up to the party and put real leaders in positions or he'll be a one term President.

Tommy

As much as I dislike Sen. Edward Kennedy, I would not disprect him in that fashion :evil: .....

Obama, has aligned himself with the Kennedy's.............[/quote:3g82k0hv]

Mike the man doesn't and has not earned any respect. He's a do nothing life long politician who got away with a crime....tell me why he deserves respect?

PhilDernerJr
10-23-2008, 01:16 PM
While I don't wish,nor will I play death-pool with ted Kennedy, I do think the man is pretty scummy.

I see him as a bitter, miserable coward who is the worst specimen of a wonderful family. The good die young, and that explains why he's the one that's survived.

Gerard
10-23-2008, 09:34 PM
> He's a do nothing life long politician who got away with a crime....tell me why he deserves respect?[/quote]<

Not defending what happened 40 years ago but to brand him as a "do nothing life long politician" is just incorrect.
I wont bore anyone with details but a Goggle/Wikipedia search will reveal that he has worked very hard as the Senior
Senator from Massachusetts including as a Chairman of numerous important Senate committees.
You may not agree with many of his "liberal" views or his personal life but "do nothing politician" is far from the reality
of his 46 years in govt.

NIKV69
10-24-2008, 07:17 AM
And McCain has not seperated himself rom the far right loonies.


But McCain is not far right. That is the difference. Obama is way to the left.



Mike the man doesn't and has not earned any respect. He's a do nothing life long politician who got away with a crime....tell me why he deserves respect?

Here you go Tommy.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/905683/tedcopy.jpg