Starbucks to close 600 U.S Stores

[T-Bird76]

SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!!!!!! This means I may have to drive an extra mile to acquire a cup of my Venti Moca Awake and Refresh extra hot Chia Tea! My god this weak economy is now starting to hurt me! I'm depressed...I need a Starbucks!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25482250/

[adam613]

Extra mile??? You poor Long Islanders are neglected...I can see three Starbucks stores out the window right now...It'd be quite the catastrophe if I had to go an extra two blocks to get coffee..

Wait, I don't even drink coffee!

[bonanzabucks]

Any way to find out which stores are closing?

[Matt Molnar]

Wait, I don't even drink coffee!
This is your fault!

What will we do with only 14,412 Starbucks?!

I guess not really a joke for the 12,000 people who are going to get canned. What is a joke is the CEO who got canned last year who had a goal of opening an ADDITIONAL 25,000 STORES (40,000 total) and is largely responsible for the mess they're in now. Something can be learned by looking at the Gap, which is hemorrhaging cash and I'd be surprised if they make it through this year: you don't need a store in every single shopping center in the world. People don't think your brand is special if they can get it anywhere.

[Matt Molnar]

Any way to find out which stores are closing?
It will probably take awhile to finalize the list since they have to work out deals with the property owners, and I doubt they'll release a list anyway. I don't think many will be in our area because they're mostly busy all the time...the only one that comes to mind as being somewhat quieter than the others is in the Toys R Us/Macys shopping center in Douglaston, but even that one probably turns a profit.

[T-Bird76]

I got my Starbucks! Venti Iced Light Latte WOOHOO!

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/mestarbucks.jpg

[wunaladreamin]

Wow...do I have comments for THAT shot!!! Egadz. I can't justify for myself paying $4 for a cup of joe, let alone learn a foreign language just to order the mother humpin' thing. I'll take my 7-11 mud black and bitter anyday.

[moose135]

Wow...do I have comments for THAT shot!!! Egadz. I can't justify for myself paying $4 for a cup of joe, let alone learn a foreign language just to order the mother humpin' thing. I'll take my 7-11 mud black and bitter anyday.
I was just going to say - it's coffee. You are supposed to drink it black, not with any goofy stuff in it (well, except for maybe a shot of Anisette).

Tommy, you would have loved the flight kitchen coffee we got for tanker flights. Brewed in a 55 gallon drum, we would pick up one or two one-gallon metal containers along with our box lunches before heading to the jet. The containers had built-in heaters which plugged into the galley. Unfortunately, the on/off toggle switch on the galley was rarely marked, and not always installed in the same direction. Typically, you found out the switch was in the wrong direction about 30 minutes into the flight, when the Boom Operator brought you a cup of cold, black coffee. You tell the Boom to flip the switch the other way, and an hour later you have re-heated black coffee. After about an 8 hour flight, it was just what you needed to wake you up for an ILS to minimums. :D

[wunaladreamin]

And why does it have to be "Venti"? Can't I just ask for a ****ing large?

[Lezam]

whoa, over 14k starbucks are out there. thats insane.

[T-Bird76]

And why does it have to be "Venti"? Can't I just ask for a ****ing large?

BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE RULES! ;)

[Derf]

And why does it have to be "Venti"? Can't I just ask for a ****ing large?

BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE RULES! ;)

That is why I go to D&D! We live in America and a Venti IS a large.... When I say Large, I do not want LIP. You can be a snob and put Venti on your walls, but when they give me lip it gets bad. ESPECIALLY IF I AM IN THERE BUYING COFFEE!!! It means I REALLY need coffee, and do not screw with me.

My last conversation was....

Me:Can I have a large light and sweet
Coffee bar maid:you mean Venti
Me:No Large
Coffee bar maid:It is called a Venti
Me:No, I want a large
Coffee bar maid:It is the same, Venti is a large
Me:Oh, I am sorry... I wanted a large....Duncan has a large (fred leaving)
Coffee bar maid:BUT IT IS A LARGE!
(sound of me waisting $4.00 in gas to get to D&D and spending $2.25 in coffee, because I can read that they have an EXTRA LARGE and know what it is bigger than a large!

Does Starbucks have an extra large? Wait, forget it.... I do not want to learn a new word right now. :roll:

[moose135]

And why does it have to be "Venti"? Can't I just ask for a ****ing large?
Because a "Large" is $2, a "Venti" is $5 :wink:

[T-Bird76]

And why does it have to be "Venti"? Can't I just ask for a ****ing large?
Because a "Large" is $2, a "Venti" is $5 :wink:

It's called a Grande Moose...please get it right. A "small" is called a Tall. There is also a new size, a Short which is smaller then the Tall.

Now since I'm a kind man and a with Advanced degrees in Business and Psychology I will take the time now to help you understand and order your beverage from Starbucks. This will make your visit more enjoyable and your drink very tasty. Please read below...

1. Decide what you want to order before your turn in line.
Decide if you want a hot or cold beverage, and which size.

Four sizes for hot beverages:
Short (8oz)
Tall (12oz)
Grande (16oz)
Venti (20oz) (trade-marked size) Venti is Latin for 20

Three sizes for cold beverages:
Tall (12oz)
Grande (16oz)
Venti (24oz) Again here's the Latin thing...

Decide what type of beverage you want.

Brewed coffee,
Coffee of the week (COW). COW is generally a bold, mild and decaf, though they can change the offerings after 2pm, or as they run out. Remember, if you are inside; ask for room for cream if you need it. It's a lot less embarrassing than cleaning up all the coffee you spill or have to pour out into the trash bin.

There are three types of tea. Short and Tall teas come with one tea bag. Grande and Venti come with two. Cold teas come shaken with either a dilute of water or lemonade, and are served sweetened unless requested otherwise. The standard sweetener is Classic Syrup, which is flavorless sugar syrup. Valencia is the old standard for syrup, and is available upon request. (Note: Valencia is being phased out of Starbuck's syrup offerings.)
Green
Black
Herbal infusions, such as Passion Fruit

Non-espresso based drinks. These are generally referred to as creamers or steamers. They are basically a latte with no espresso and are made with any available syrup.
Hot chocolates
Caramel apple ciders

Cold drinks include iced coffee, iced espresso and frappuccino. Same sizes and oz's, but no short size, and iced venti is 24 oz. Ice espressos are the same as their hot counterpart, except served over ice cubes (non-blended). There are two basic types of frappuccinos:

Coffee base
Crème Base (CBB), which is a mix of a secret powder and nonfat milk.
Coffee Light is made with Sucralose (splenda style sweetener) and is served sans whip, and a decaffeinated coffee base. Determine how much caffeine you want in your beverage. Remember that just because it’s bigger doesn't necessarily mean it will have more caffeine.


Espresso Drinks (This is my drink of choice). All Lattes, Cappuccinos, and macchiatos have the following shots:
1 in short and tall
2 in Grande and hot venti. I generally add one or two extra shots. I add two shots if the day is rather stressful.
3 in iced venti

Americanos:
2 in a tall
3 in Grande
My personal favorite, 4 in venti, I generally add one or two extra shots. I add two shots if the day is rather stressful.

Mocha Valencias:
2 in a tall
2 in Grande
3 in venti
Choose the type of milk or non-dairy creamer you want. If you opt for anything other than whole, non-fat, or 2%, you will be charged an additional cost. It is possible to create blended milk, which is a mix of whole and non fat, though its actual mixture will very depending upon the barista preparing it.

Whole
2 percent (the standard unless specified - as of 2007)
Nonfat
Breve(half and half)
Heavy Whipping Cream (un-whipped)
Soy
Organic

You can add whipped cream to any drink for no extra charge. Whipped cream is made with heavy whipping cream and 8 pumps of vanilla syrup.

Speak directly at the cashier after you have their attention, and when placing an order. If you must turn away to point to something, remember that speaking in a different direction will make it difficult for the cashier to hear you in a noisy environment.

Ask your cashier for any pastries or items from the 'ready to eat' case first, if desired. Do alternate the ordering of pastries and coffees as it will slow down your wait time, as well as everyone else's wait time behind you.

Now order your beverage and enjoy.

Starbucks also has a rather nice selection of music favorites from local and popular artists to choose from.

[moose135]

1. Decide what you want to order before your turn in line...
I think Seinfeld would call them the Coffee Nazis :)

You may have degrees in Business and Psychology, but I think my Engineering degree will be more useful trying to order something at Starbucks!

[Derf]

1. Decide what you want to order before your turn in line...
I think Seinfeld would call them the Coffee Nazis :)

You may have degrees in Business and Psychology, but I think my Engineering degree will be more useful trying to order something at Starbucks!

NO MOOSE, The Soup Nazis actually has.....GOOD SOUP!

[wunaladreamin]

That's it...enough with the ordering etiquite. I'm sorry Tommy, but when a place needs detailed instruction on how to order a fricken coffee, that's just absurd. Egadz! I'm buying a by the cup coffee maker and when I want to enjoy the rich tasty goodness of a fine beverage made from roasted beans I'll simply say to myself "Hey @$$ hat, make me a cup of coffee."

[Derf]

Tell me you actually called someone as @ss Hat?

[T-Bird76]

That's it...enough with the ordering etiquite. I'm sorry Tommy, but when a place needs detailed instruction on how to order a fricken coffee, that's just absurd. Egadz! I'm buying a by the cup coffee maker and when I want to enjoy the rich tasty goodness of a fine beverage made from roasted beans I'll simply say to myself "Hey @$$ hat, make me a cup of coffee."


Those things are no good Kenny! Btw I'm a coffee snob...it’s my thing, like some people with wine and cigars. I’m like that with coffee. Now if you want a fine coffee machine I recommend the Cuisinart DGB-900BC coffee maker. Here's a link http://www.cuisinart.com/catalog/produc ... 6&cat_id=3 (http://www.cuisinart.com/catalog/product.php?product_id=514&item_id=626&cat_id=3)

I have that model and it’s AWESOME! Grinds and brews, I'll only drink freshly grounded coffee.

Now as for coffee itself you different varieties that offer varied flavor. Some of what’s in my house right now include…

Costa Rican- Perhaps the boldest tasting coffee there is. This coffee is not for the weak of heart and can be very bitter. It’s a very dark coffee grown in very dense jungle with soil rich in minerals.

Indonesian Coffee- Very similar to Costa Rican but a very distinct after taste. Not my favorite.

African blends- Coffee from Kenya is very good and has a very earthy taste to it. It’s smooth and consistent throughout your entire palette.

Hawaiian- There are two types of coffee from Hawaii, Kona and Blue Mountain. Blue Mountain has a much bolder taste then Kona since it grown in the volcanic region where the soil is extremely acidic which translates to a very powerful and bitter coffee. Kona is grown much closer to the ocean grown in the sandy region. Kona is ok but Blue Mountain if much better.

Jamaican Blue- Now for those of you who have smoked weed once, twice or a number of times in your life you will know the purple leafs are the most potent...well the same holds true for Blue Jamaican coffee beans. These beans ARE very high in natural caffeine and have a very dark blueish look to them. I like this coffee in the winter the most.

[RDU-JFK]

Btw I'm a coffee snob...

You sound like Peter King!

[lijk604]

With all that caffene in your system it's no wonder I get so many blurry rejections. :wink:
j/k Tommy.

[T-Bird76]

With all that caffene in your system it's no wonder I get so many blurry rejections. :wink:
j/k Tommy.

Keep it up and you might see more. MUAHAHAHAHAHA! :twisted: With that said my coworker and I are going to yes you know where...Starbucks, yes I really am!

[flyboy 28]

Jamaican Blue- Now for those of you who have smoked weed once, twice or a number of times in your life you will know the purple leafs are the most potent...well the same holds true for Blue Jamaican coffee beans. These beans ARE very high in natural caffeine and have a very dark blueish look to them. I like this coffee in the winter the most.


Because it gets you super f***ed up? :borat:

[T-Bird76]

This is a Venti Vanilla Bean Blended frappuccino with whipped cream. Kenny the next time I spot with you I'm taking you to Starbucks and buying you one!

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/mestarbucks2.jpg

[adam613]

This is a Venti Vanilla Bean Blended frappuccino with whipped cream. Kenny the next time I spot with you I'm taking you to Starbucks and buying you one!

Note to self: Make sure to show up to this. Could be funniest moment in history of plane-spotting.

[moose135]

This is a Venti Vanilla Bean Blended frappuccino with whipped cream.
It's not even the right color - what the hell is in that stuff, Tommy?

[cancidas]

It's called a Grande Moose...please get it right. A "small" is called a Tall. There is also a new size, a Short which is smaller then the Tall.

Now since I'm a kind man and a with Advanced degrees in Business and Psychology I will take the time now to help you understand and order your beverage from Starbucks. This will make your visit more enjoyable and your drink very tasty. Please read below...

1. Decide what you want to order before your turn in line.
Decide if you want a hot or cold beverage, and which size.

Four sizes for hot beverages:
Short (8oz)
Tall (12oz)
Grande (16oz)
Venti (20oz) (trade-marked size) Venti is Latin for 20

Three sizes for cold beverages:
Tall (12oz)
Grande (16oz)
Venti (24oz) Again here's the Latin thing...

Decide what type of beverage you want.

Brewed coffee,
Coffee of the week (COW). COW is generally a bold, mild and decaf, though they can change the offerings after 2pm, or as they run out. Remember, if you are inside; ask for room for cream if you need it. It's a lot less embarrassing than cleaning up all the coffee you spill or have to pour out into the trash bin.

There are three types of tea. Short and Tall teas come with one tea bag. Grande and Venti come with two. Cold teas come shaken with either a dilute of water or lemonade, and are served sweetened unless requested otherwise. The standard sweetener is Classic Syrup, which is flavorless sugar syrup. Valencia is the old standard for syrup, and is available upon request. (Note: Valencia is being phased out of Starbuck's syrup offerings.)
Green
Black
Herbal infusions, such as Passion Fruit

Non-espresso based drinks. These are generally referred to as creamers or steamers. They are basically a latte with no espresso and are made with any available syrup.
Hot chocolates
Caramel apple ciders

Cold drinks include iced coffee, iced espresso and frappuccino. Same sizes and oz's, but no short size, and iced venti is 24 oz. Ice espressos are the same as their hot counterpart, except served over ice cubes (non-blended). There are two basic types of frappuccinos:

Coffee base
Crème Base (CBB), which is a mix of a secret powder and nonfat milk.
Coffee Light is made with Sucralose (splenda style sweetener) and is served sans whip, and a decaffeinated coffee base. Determine how much caffeine you want in your beverage. Remember that just because it’s bigger doesn't necessarily mean it will have more caffeine.


Espresso Drinks (This is my drink of choice). All Lattes, Cappuccinos, and macchiatos have the following shots:
1 in short and tall
2 in Grande and hot venti. I generally add one or two extra shots. I add two shots if the day is rather stressful.
3 in iced venti

Americanos:
2 in a tall
3 in Grande
My personal favorite, 4 in venti, I generally add one or two extra shots. I add two shots if the day is rather stressful.

Mocha Valencias:
2 in a tall
2 in Grande
3 in venti
Choose the type of milk or non-dairy creamer you want. If you opt for anything other than whole, non-fat, or 2%, you will be charged an additional cost. It is possible to create blended milk, which is a mix of whole and non fat, though its actual mixture will very depending upon the barista preparing it.

Whole
2 percent (the standard unless specified - as of 2007)
Nonfat
Breve(half and half)
Heavy Whipping Cream (un-whipped)
Soy
Organic

You can add whipped cream to any drink for no extra charge. Whipped cream is made with heavy whipping cream and 8 pumps of vanilla syrup.

Speak directly at the cashier after you have their attention, and when placing an order. If you must turn away to point to something, remember that speaking in a different direction will make it difficult for the cashier to hear you in a noisy environment.

Ask your cashier for any pastries or items from the 'ready to eat' case first, if desired. Do alternate the ordering of pastries and coffees as it will slow down your wait time, as well as everyone else's wait time behind you.

Now order your beverage and enjoy.

Starbucks also has a rather nice selection of music favorites from local and popular artists to choose from.
i prefer my way tommy, going to the bodega on the corner where they make the cup for me when i walk. i don't even have to tell them what i want they already know. did i mention that it only costs me $1.00 and i don't have to plant a tree for make up for all the gas i used because i WALK there?

(i'm not going to explain what a bodega is, go watch "how high")



Tommy, you would have loved the flight kitchen coffee we got for tanker flights. Brewed in a 55 gallon drum, we would pick up one or two one-gallon metal containers along with our box lunches before heading to the jet. The containers had built-in heaters which plugged into the galley. Unfortunately, the on/off toggle switch on the galley was rarely marked, and not always installed in the same direction. Typically, you found out the switch was in the wrong direction about 30 minutes into the flight, when the Boom Operator brought you a cup of cold, black coffee. You tell the Boom to flip the switch the other way, and an hour later you have re-heated black coffee. After about an 8 hour flight, it was just what you needed to wake you up for an ILS to minimums. :D
that still doesn't beat making it in your own canteen cup, so simple even the grunts can do it!

[wunaladreamin]

This is a Venti Vanilla Bean Blended frappuccino with whipped cream. Kenny the next time I spot with you I'm taking you to Starbucks and buying you one!

http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/mestarbucks2.jpgLooks like cream of sum yung ghai, I think I'll avoid that like rape. Coffee should be sans milk, sans sugar, and sans bull**** and enjoyed whilst listening to colon stomping music like Kiss, Zeppelin, or Sabbath and not the smooth soothing sounds of the Eagles and Hotels in California. A good coffee is not nursed like one of those concocktions but pounded like a virgin on prom night. But, hey, iffin you wanna buy something...one of those brewhaus ambers would hit thee spot!

[moose135]

...one of those brewhaus ambers would hit thee spot!
Along with a cheeseburger? :lol:

[T-Bird76]

Looks like cream of sum yung ghai, I think I'll avoid that like rape. Coffee should be sans milk, sans sugar, and sans bull**** and enjoyed whilst listening to colon stomping music like Kiss, Zeppelin, or Sabbath and not the smooth soothing sounds of the Eagles and Hotels in California. A good coffee is not nursed like one of those concocktions but pounded like a virgin on prom night. But, hey, iffin you wanna buy something...one of those brewhaus ambers would hit thee spot!

Now you'll get nothing and like it! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[njgtr82]

This is way too difficult for a cup of coffee.... Its simple for me. I go to WaWa or 711, grab a cup and pour, add cream and sugar, pay, and drink. And yes I love and need my coffee. :D

[Matt Molnar]

Starbucks has posted a list of the first 50 stores getting the axe. Three are in New York: two on Long Island and one on Staten Island.

#10840 - CENTRAL ISLIP TOWN CENTRE
101 S RESEARCH PL
CENTRAL ISLIP, NY

#11280 - FOREST PROMENADE
1756 FOREST AVE
STATEN ISLAND, NY

#11976 - SOUTHOLD
53345 ROUTE 25
SOUTHOLD, NY

Full list: http://www.starbucks.com/aboutus/pressdesc.asp?id=880

[moose135]

Per Newsday (http://www.newsday.com/business/local/ny-bzstar0719,0,1940822.story), they have announced additional NY area closings.

Long Island:
426 Central Ave., Cedarhurst
2330 Hempstead Tpk., East Meadow
1946 Jericho Tpk.., Elwood
123 Fulton Ave., Farmingdale
385B Broadway Mall, Hicksville
1750 Veterans Hwy., Islandia
106 Old Country Rd., Mineola
1441 Jericho Tpk., New Hyde Park
1 Railroad Ave., Roslyn Heights
20 North Highway, Southampton
467 Old County Rd., Westbury
1504 Old Country Rd., Westbury

Queens:
242-02 61st Ave., Douglaston
8989 Union Tpk., Glendale
8000 Cooper Ave., Glendale

Brooklyn:
8414 3rd Ave.

Manhattan:
1675 Broadway
400 Madison Ave.
1600 Broadway
565 Fifth Ave.
340 Madison Ave.
151 W. 34th St.

[T-Bird76]

Long Island:
426 Central Ave., Cedarhurst
2330 Hempstead Tpk., East Meadow
1946 Jericho Tpk.., Elwood
123 Fulton Ave., Farmingdale
385B Broadway Mall, Hicksville
1750 Veterans Hwy., Islandia
106 Old Country Rd., Mineola
1441 Jericho Tpk., New Hyde Park
1 Railroad Ave., Roslyn Heights
20 North Highway, Southampton
467 Old County Rd., Westbury
1504 Old Country Rd., Westbury

OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Matt Molnar]

A few of those are surprising to me. 106 Old Country Road is right across from all the county offices and courts and next to a pretty big office building, you'd think they'd make a killing over there, property must be expensive though. The Douglaston and Union Tpk locations are not surprising, the quietest shops I've been to. 1675 Broadway is tiny (I think it has one table) and there's a bigger one about a block away.

*sigh* I've been to way too many sbuxes.

[wunaladreamin]

Here ya go Tommy...salud!!!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pspauld/small_cup_of_coffee.jpg

[lijk604]

Good thing Tommy doesn't live in Australia. CNN just had a report they are closing 2/3 of ALL Starbucks locations there.