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adam613
2007-11-27, 12:29 AM
So my pictures from FLL came out noisy, overexposed, and halo-y. For the most part, I know what I did wrong with the camera, but I thought this might be a good exercise in sharpening techniques.

How'd I do? Do these look over-processed? It's hard for me to tell, because I know what they looked like before. :) And it's rather tedious editing, so I figured I'd get feedback before I do any more.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2090/2067189837_f851989e1b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2092/2067189743_c2d11bd9a6_o.jpg

ChrisW
2007-11-27, 07:31 AM
They both have serious quality issues unfortunately. Care to post any of the original files?

adam613
2007-11-27, 10:04 AM
Yeah, I know there are serious quality issues, and I've accepted the fact that none of them are going to JP. But I'd still like to do the best I can with them. I was experimenting with Aperture Priority mode on my camera and I need to use a lower exposure compensation (to get the exposure right) and a bigger aperture (to cut down on the noise).

I dropped the original JPEGs in http://adamtrilling.com/pics/20071123_fll/ (not posting them directly because they're 3 MB each). I'm going to do more tonight, but most of them have similar issues; either the cloudy background makes them hard to sharpem (like Ted) or they are overexposed and have halos (like the C172).

NIKV69
2007-11-27, 10:27 AM
overexposed,

Yep, what camera you using now Adam? Either way also looks like the sun was just in a bad spot.. In the case of the Cessna that fuselage is so white unless you have the sun in the right spot its blown out city. Remember camera settings are one thing. Getting the subject lit right is also important.

adam613
2007-11-27, 11:59 AM
overexposed,

Yep, what camera you using now Adam? Either way also looks like the sun was just in a bad spot.. In the case of the Cessna that fuselage is so white unless you have the sun in the right spot its blown out city. Remember camera settings are one thing. Getting the subject lit right is also important.

I'm using a Panasonic FZ50. It's still a small sensor, so I still have noise issues, but not nearly as bad as what I had before.

I'm still trying to figure out this whole sun thing. The nice thing about FLL (with its 9/27 runways) is that the sun is always directly behind you, but I'd have probably done better early in the morning when it wasn't as high in the sky, right?

Should I get an ND filter? That would give me a lot more flexibility in the bright sunlight we tend to like, no?

NIKV69
2007-11-27, 01:55 PM
but I'd have probably done better early in the morning when it wasn't as high in the sky, right?


Now your getting it ol' boy.

Look at this shot, taken with the sun very low.

[airlinerstp://www.airliners.net/open.file/1167830/L/[/airlinersNow look at this shot where I was fighting the sun, it's very high and it took a lot to get this shot to work.


[airlinerstp://www.airliners.net/open.file/1288409/L/[/airlinersI know it's not always easy to get the sun where you want it, but while you are starting out it's good to get the best possible conditions to learn with and go from there. Exposure comp is a good thing but it can't help as much as you think.

adam613
2007-11-27, 04:27 PM
I know it's not always easy to get the sun where you want it, but while you are starting out it's good to get the best possible conditions to learn with and go from there. Exposure comp is a good thing but it can't help as much as you think.

It's be a lot easier to get the sun where I wanted it if I knew where I wanted it :P

What I'm confused about is, why didn't I have this problem when I was at Firestone from 11:15 AM on the first time I used this camera? Does it have something to do with the fact that the sun in New York in late October isn't nearly as bright as the sun in South Florida?

NIKV69
2007-11-28, 10:49 AM
There will be a difference with the seasons sure. I have been able to shoot at certain locations at 11ish late fall that are dead in the summer. You will know pretty quickly how strong the sun is by the results you are getting. Remember that your camera gives you the feedack instantly so you should be checking after each shot how your exposure is. I would definately try to avoid high sun till you get more skilled with the sun being lower. When it's low expsosure is easier and you can work from there.