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N790SW
2007-09-08, 02:01 PM
Hey Guys:

I have always wanted to know whats the biggest plane ISP can handle? I have heard rumors of a DL 757 landing there once and an even bigger joke of a UA 744 landing there. I am aware that rwy 24/6 is about 7,000ft so I am guessing maybe the 764 is the biggest? or maybe an A330? Ill leave that up to you.

mirrodie
2007-09-08, 02:16 PM
A light 747 can def. land there.

Seen here is a photo of a 747 taking off at ISP, with the mountain range of Roosevelt Field in the distance.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1233709/L/

NIKV69
2007-09-08, 02:30 PM
Seen here is a photo of a 747 taking off at ISP, with the mountain range of Roosevelt Field in the distance.


Wow it's so funny how ISP looks a lot like the state of WA.

N790SW
2007-09-08, 02:45 PM
mirrodie:

Are you sure thats the right picture ;) ISP has no mountains, at least not that I know of!!!!

mirrodie
2007-09-08, 02:50 PM
Apparently you've never seen Tommy's favorite movie, the historically accurate film 'Pearl Harbor'? ;)

Glad you have a sense of humor :mrgreen:

LGA777
2007-09-08, 03:01 PM
My first visit to ISP was prior to moving to New York in 1984 doing a 1 hour turn around on a Northeastern (my employer at the time) 204 seat DC-8-62 from FLL. I fondly remember during taxi to/from the gate the outboard engines hanging out over the grass and the visible jet blast from same.

Eastern operated 757's to Floirda during I believe the late 80's and I know of a Pan Am A-310 diverting their inbound to JFK with a low fuel emergency back in I think the 1990's.

I hope this helps a little ?

LGA777

Derf
2007-09-08, 03:37 PM
I have pictures of the 757 AF2 at ISP

lijk604
2007-09-08, 09:30 PM
For the 757 ISP is cake. Runway 6/24 is the same length as LGA (7000') , so what can land there can land at ISP. We know that the B757, B767-2/-3/-4 all have landed at LGA. Runway-wise the 747 can do ISP, but I doubt the taxiways are wide enough for the wingspan.

PhilDernerJr
2007-09-09, 01:49 AM
The runway at ISP is actually TWO feet longer than LGA's, and as mentioned, LGA can handle many things.

On a 7,000 foot runway, a 747 can land, but with the extra weight of fuel, might not be able to take off again.

JetBlueAirwaysFan
2007-09-09, 10:11 AM
The runway at ISP is actually TWO feet longer than LGA's
LGA's runways are 7000 feet, ISP's 6/24 is actually 7006 feet.
Runway wise, ISP can handle the big planes, and now with the new Veteran's Concourse, the terminal can too, but I don't think that the old terminal that was in it's place could handle the big planes, since it was one story...like the Delta Connection gate at the other end of the terminal probably could not handle the 757 or 767.

N790SW
2007-09-09, 11:19 AM
Would a Airbus A340-300 have the same problem as the 747 ? due to its long wingspan. I am sure if it did land there, then it probably couldn't get back in the air right? Would sure as hell be interesting to see a 343 climb out over Vets highway!!

emshighway
2007-09-09, 11:29 AM
now with the new Veteran's Concourse, the terminal can too, but I don't think that the old terminal that was in it's place could handle the big planes, since it was one story...like the Delta Connection gate at the other end of the terminal probably could not handle the 757 or 767.

They didn't replace the old terminal, it is still there. They did replace one of the concourse wings but the west wing is still there.

T-Bird76
2007-09-09, 12:17 PM
Simple because ISP's runways are 7000 feet is no indication it can handle a large plane. While the length of the runway can handle anything up to a 747, and yes A340s to, weight might be an issue. I don't know if the runway or the taxi ways were built to support the weight of these larger planes which may crack the cement. Remember SXM's runway is only 7054 feet and that airport gets 747s and A340s.

The largest plane to land at ISP was a PanAm A300 that declared a fuel emergency in 1991. Since it was right before PanAm went belly up the fuel company at ISP refused to give PanAm any credit and the pilot had to use his own AMEX card to fuel the plane before it left for JFK.

hiss srq
2007-09-09, 06:51 PM
Tommy hit the nail onthe head as far as runways and taxiway support goes. On 9/11 AF1 was at SRQ and at the time they had 7000 useable. They also supported DC-10's L1011's A-330's and an infamous (to us locals) Atlas 747 charter there once.

Mateo
2007-09-10, 06:29 PM
The FAA chart lists 300K as the max weight for 6/24, so a 752 seems to be the limit.

Art at ISP
2007-09-10, 08:07 PM
I have watched the Northeastern DC8's arrive and depart from ISP on many occasions. The 757 was a scheduled visitor on Eastern way back when too.

I am almost certain that I did see an Eastern A300 there once or twice--it did have capability of operating under 300,000 lb.

I recall the DC8's used almost every inch of runway, and I also think that they operated there before the runway was extended to 7000 ft but I could be wrong.

I also remember the 727's --I rode quite a few out of there in my day.

LGA777
2007-09-10, 08:13 PM
Art the Runway indeed was only 6000 feet when Northeastern DC-8's where everyday visitors and yes those birds used a lot of runway especially with 204 paxs on board.

LGA777

JetBlueAirwaysFan
2007-09-12, 11:41 AM
They didn't replace the old terminal, it is still there. They did replace one of the concourse wings but the west wing is still there.
I know that, I tried to say that in my message, but I must have said it bad so that you got confused.

NIKV69
2007-09-12, 12:28 PM
On a 7,000 foot runway, a 747 can land, but with the extra weight of fuel, might not be able to take off again.



Exactly, If I remember right ISP was trying to expand the runway but was getting grief from the surrounding neighbors. Probably a moot point because ISP doesn't seem to need anything more than a 737 at present.

Derf
2007-09-12, 07:26 PM
4/19/2002
KISP

VP Dick Chaney is in town

I found out from my sister in law that "Air Force 1" was at Macarthur airport here on Long Island N.Y. and headed out to go get some pictures. I knew that it had to be the 757 because she kept saying how big it was and they do not have taxiways with a heavy enough weight requirement for the 747 (or so I have been told).

Macarthur airport is not a spotter friendly airport. I keep getting lucky. I went there and stayed there for about 1 hour, found out it was AirForce 2 and took some pictures. Soon I had leave to get my son from daycare. After picking him up I headed straight back to the same place I was. At that time in his life, Nick only wanted to see copters. I wanted to look at this beautiful 757 and he wanted an R-22!
I took over 40 pictures when they powered the 757 up to pull the plane around for when the VP Cheney gets back. The ground crew did not think of moving the two ladders behind the tail. .5 seconds and they shot a good 30 feet!
(Have shots of that too) ;)

At that point I grabbed my son and yelled hand on , WINDY! I watched as I am looking at the rear of the engines as #2 (At High Power) passes us. I can hear the exaust coming and Bam! it threw my son into me and we went back on my a$$ real fast!

Nick did not like the wind! and did not want to stay any longer.

http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/194974954-L.jpg

http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/194974982-L.jpg

http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/194974997-L.jpg

http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/194975013-L.jpg

Delta777LR
2007-09-12, 10:17 PM
For the 757 ISP is cake. Runway 6/24 is the same length as LGA (7000') , so what can land there can land at ISP. We know that the B757, B767-2/-3/-4 all have landed at LGA. Runway-wise the 747 can do ISP, but I doubt the taxiways are wide enough for the wingspan.
Dont forget that DC-10s, L-1011s and A300s also used to land at LGA

Derf
2007-09-12, 11:03 PM
But the taxiways were never made to handle that kind of weight.

JHNA57
2007-09-26, 11:46 AM
Hi Guys

Long time reader.
First time poster.

Back in the early 90's I attended a number of airshows at the Schenectady County airport in upstate NY. The airport has a 7,000 ft main runway and I would say it is equvilant to Republic airport.
They always had some great displays ((MATS Connie, Save-a-Connie Constellation, Blue Angels, Thunderbirds and other greats).
They always had a C5 Galaxy that would come up from Stewart, but the main attraction one year was a British Airways Concorde.
I'm sure they came in lightly loaded, but if they landed there, ISP would be no problem.

PhilDernerJr
2007-09-26, 11:48 AM
Welcome to the site!