Dubai Intl

[T-Bird76]

This is just sick...that's a ton of heavy gates and their building even more. :shock: :shock: Talk about the city of the future..

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1211308/L/

[lear45]

You should go there. Its even more impressive in person. My wife and I went two years ago. Simply amazing!! If I could get on with Emirates, I would be gone tomorrow morning!

[yaas]

i wanna go so badly, but i'd probably be too "poor" to really enjoy it all haha

[PhilDernerJr]

That place is quickly becoming the new capital of the world.

[PhilDernerJr]

So close......I'm actually going to Abu Dhabi next week.

[Winglets747]

I love DXB overviews. They're simply stunning.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1204297/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1204296/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0985335/L/

[hiss srq]

I would surely not turn down a chance to move there if I could fly for EK or work in the flight training department.

[Nycfly75]

I would surely not turn down a chance to move there if I could fly for EK or work in the flight training department.

Go for it:
http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/

[AirtrafficController]

they get all thier money on oil, its easy money for now

[lear45]

they get all their money on oil, its easy money for now

Actually not much anymore. They have totally transformed their economy to tourism and commerce. Companies are flocking there in droves.

[Iberia A340-600]

Almost went to Dubai two years ago but it ended up being so expensive to get there from Madrid! One day hopefully.

However now with Qatar Airways flying to Madrid I'd think it would be easier and less expensive in terms of flight cost.

[Midnight Mike]

they get all their money on oil, its easy money for now

Actually not much anymore. They have totally transformed their economy to tourism and commerce. Companies are flocking there in droves.

Lots of illegal money in Dubai as well, kind of a terrorist haven. Most countries have been going after the bogus charities for Middle Eastern terrorist fronts have now transferred their accounts to banks in Dubai, where no questions are asked.

[Midnight Mike]

I would surely not turn down a chance to move there if I could fly for EK or work in the flight training department.

It is very expensive in Dubai & remember you are talking about temps of 130 degrees during the day....

You think New York traffic is bad, traffic in Dubai is even worse.....

Remember, every place has their good & bad points.....

[Nycfly75]

they get all their money on oil, its easy money for now.
Actually not much anymore. They have totally transformed their economy to tourism and commerce. Companies are flocking there in droves.

Lots of illegal money in Dubai as well, kind of a terrorist haven. Most countries have been going after the bogus charities for Middle Eastern terrorist fronts have now transferred their accounts to banks in Dubai, where no questions are asked.

Well, just like most places you have your good and bad. There are a lot of legitimate and prosperous enterprises in Dubai. My close friend is one of the royal family's financial advisors and there is plenty of money from Dubai being invested all over, especially the United States. There is illegal money there just the same there is illegal money in New York or anyplace else. In fact, some would use this as a measure of what a positive economic draw the UAE is: Israeli business concerns would jump at the first opportunity to enter the Dubai market, but they cant for obvious reasons.

[Midnight Mike]

Indeed, since 9/11 a huge investigative literature has explored Dubai’s role as ‘the financial hub for Islamic militant groups’, especially al-Qaeda and the Taliban: ‘all roads lead to Dubai when it comes to [terrorist] money’, claims a former high-ranking us Treasury official.

Bin Laden reportedly transferred large sums through the government-owned Dubai Islamic Bank, while the Taliban used the city’s unregulated gold markets to transform their opium taxes, paid in gold bullion, into laundered dollars.

Dubai under the tolerant gaze of Tehran has attracted large numbers of wealthy Iranians who use the city—more like Hong Kong than Miami —as a base for trade and bi-national life-styles.

They are estimated to control as much as 30 per cent of Dubai’s current real-estate development. Building on such clandestine connections, Dubai in the 1980s and early 1990s became the Gulf’s principal dirty-money laundry as well as a bolthole for some of the region’s most notorious gangsters and terrorists. As the Wall Street Journal recently described the city’s underside:

[quote:43c43]Its gold and diamond souks, houses of barter and informal cash-transfer storefronts have long formed an opaque business world based on connections and clan allegiances. Black-market operators, arms dealers, terrorist financiers and money launderers have taken advantage of the freewheeling environment, even if the vast bulk of business is legitimate. [/quote:43c43]

[Alex T]

If you are one of the lucky ones to be hired by EK and be based in Dubai, your covered.

They oay for everything, your housing and such, all you cover is food I believe, and the pay reasonably well, amazing staff and benefits but the training is intense and just wow.

I would love to be a Flight Attendent for EK but I think Ill stick with Southwest for now :-P

Alex

[Informant]

If you are one of the lucky ones to be hired by EK and be based in Dubai, your covered.

They oay for everything, your housing and such, all you cover is food I believe, and the pay reasonably well, amazing staff and benefits but the training is intense and just wow.

I would love to be a Flight Attendent for EK but I think Ill stick with Southwest for now Razz

That's not so true. EK pilots have been complaining due to problems with scheduling, and management, typically here in the US a pilot will fly 65-75 hours in a month while at EK they are pushing 85-95 hours.
Pilots feel its no longer an airline that they want to grow in and are leaving.
They don't hire RJ pilots either so just because you have 4,000 hours in a CRJ don't expect to be flying with them. PLus there is no Pilot union as they are illegal in the UAE.

All pilots are based in Dubai, and the company expects you to live there, so you can't commute from London the night before your 2 week trip to Melbourne via Singapore.

As for the pay and benefits, the private schooling for your children isn't covered 100% there is still a balance that must come out of your pocket, and the more kids you have, the more money you put out, and the bigger your apartment will have to be, and I believe(not 100% sure on this) that EK provides a 2 bedroom apartment.

[Matt Molnar]

Thanks for the insight, Informant. Welcome to the boards.

[Informant]

Its what I do

[bonanzabucks]

If you guys want to know about what it's like working for Emirates, I'd check out the pprune.org Middle East forums. There are a lot of posts there by Emirates staff. Most of what I've read is really negative -- both about living in Dubai and working for the airline.

As for Dubai itself, it seems to be getting a lot of really good press these days. It seems to me that the media are really pushing Dubai because they're so desperate to see a Middle Eastern success story. I've never been there before (and it's probably not a good idea for me to go because of my last name), but I have some friends who have lived there and it's not all glamorous or wonderful as it's made out to be. Here's a link about living there.

http://uaereport.homeblock.com/

From what my friends tell me, it's pretty true. Especially the part about meeting women. Unless you're into Filipino girls, the Mid East is an awful place to meet a mate.

[HALCYON]

Hi guyz!

With regards to the topic, i.e. a tonne of gates at DXB, all I can tell you is that the next tonne of gates to be delivered (still under construction) are already desperately needed right now... and that at this very moment, they should be adding tonnes of gates more for future growth.

With regards to comments about Dubai itself:

-> True, every place has its pros and cons:
- Dubai is well-known for money-laundering. I think it is true. And I also think that terrorist connections with Dubai may have been true in the past.
- Traffic is becoming horrendous. True.
Having said that, with all it's challenges, I still love Dubai, because I think that at the end of the day it's still a great place to work and live in.

Regarding Emirates cockpit crew:

-> What someone wrote about pilots at Emirates is a blatant big fat lie and, very often, what is written on pprune.org is just posted out of greed:
- Emirates pilots work up to a maximum of 900 flying hours a year.
- If you are married and with children, you can either opt for a very generous accommodation allowance, or else live in company provided accommodation, which by the way, consists of (VERY) nice villas, often with a swimming pool and a tennis court within the unit plus other facilities within the compound as standard, in leafy Dubai neighbourhoods (Jumeirah, Satwa, etc.).
- Children's school fees paid by Emirates to cockpit crew are very close to 100%.
- If you are single, or married without children, you can either opt for a very generous accommodation allowance or a company-provided 2-bedroomed apartment with gym and other facilities within the building, again, in some of the best neighbourhoods of Dubai.
- I know for a fact that a pilot now at Emirates passed from regional jets at Independence Air to Emirates' heavies.
- Singapore-Melbourne IS NOT A 2-WEEK TRIP. As a minimum, you get a rest day before the trip, then a 24-hour layover in Singapore, 18 hours' layover in Melbourne, another 24-hout layover in Singapore, followed by a rest day upon arrival back in Dubai.

It is true that there is only one base: Dubai.

It is true that unions are illegal in Dubai.

However, I must say that a large number of Emirates pilots give a very bad name to the company and to the rest of the pilots in the company, as they are the most arrogant, rude, downright inconsiderate and selfish that I have ever come across.

I hope that I have helped clarifying some misunderstandings and misconceptions.

Happy Days,

HALCYON :wink: :smile:

[HALCYON]

I believe that the report to which a link was posted above, pretty much gives a complete and true picture of the challenges that the UAE still needs to face and overcome. Fast.

I must also add that some issues which I consider important, such as human rights and others, were not mentioned in the said report.

At the end of the day, certain things are what you make out of them. With regards to others, yes, it's true - there's a lot of opportunities for improvement.

:wink:

Halcyon

[Nycfly75]

Welcome HALCYON!

HALCYON is a good source of Dubai info...after all he is a good friend of mine so I can vouch for him!!!

[HALCYON]

Thanks :wink:

HALCYON

[Midnight Mike]

Hi guyz!

It is true that there is only one base: Dubai.

It is true that unions are illegal in Dubai.

However, I must say that a large number of Emirates pilots give a very bad name to the company and to the rest of the pilots in the company, as they are the most arrogant, rude, downright inconsiderate and selfish that I have ever come across.

I hope that I have helped clarifying some misunderstandings and misconceptions.

Happy Days,

HALCYON :wink: :smile:

Yeah, do not believe everything that you read on Prune.org.

One thing that the pilots do not like at Emirates is the Senority list, there really isn't any, so, some months you get your bid request, some months you do not. Pilots live & die by their senority number....

Also, the way they bid trip awards, it is really not condusive for the commuter & to repeat what others have said, you must live there.

Pilots going to Dubai are good to go for a couple of years, until the spouse goes nuts & the kids grow up, after that the family is ready to go & the pilot is put in a difficult situation....

Everything has their props & cons, for some reason in the media, Emirates/Dubai is the media darling, just thought to be fair, we should know what the cons are.....