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Midnight Mike
2007-04-12, 05:20 PM
Snoop on Imus: The ho’s I talk about are totally different kinds of ho’s
“It’s a completely different scenario,” said Snoop, barking over the phone from a hotel room in L.A. “[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports.
We’re talking about ho’s that’s in the ‘hood that ain’t doing sh–, that’s trying to get a n—a for his money.
These are two separate things. First of all, we ain’t no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [which announced Wednesday it would drop its simulcast of Imus’ radio show] going hard on black girls.
We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha—-as say we in the same league as him.”
alexg32
2007-04-12, 05:32 PM
Wow.
SoPictureThis
2007-04-12, 05:35 PM
eloquently put, snoop! hooray for snoop!!!
RDU-JFK
2007-04-12, 05:40 PM
“...trying to get a n—a for his money....
...we ain’t no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC ...I will not let them mutha—-as say we in the same league as him.”
And yet he gets away with this language. He's racist himself, but there's no overblown news reports on it.
Makes me so mad.
hiss srq
2007-04-12, 05:46 PM
my point exactly over and over and over. Sad stuff.
Midnight Mike
2007-04-12, 06:04 PM
“...trying to get a n—a for his money....
...we ain’t no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC ...I will not let them mutha—-as say we in the same league as him.”
And yet he gets away with this language. He's racist himself, but there's no overblown news reports on it.
Makes me so mad.
No kidding, & no anger for Snoop using the "N" word... :shock:
T-Bird76
2007-04-12, 06:10 PM
So he's saying that when his heart and mind say "kill the cops," "Kill the white man" its fine to put it in words because he speaks for the hood? If I was the hood I'd get a new spokesperson quick.
I'm going to make a statement.....I'm white and proud of it. There call me a racist now.
Midnight Mike
2007-04-12, 06:49 PM
I'm going to make a statement.....I'm white and proud of it. There call me a racist now.
You go boy!
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Midnight Mike
2007-04-12, 07:08 PM
What the hell is wrong with the media, I have never heard of this crap before!
Imus' ‘nappy’ remark has long, hurtful history
‘The other N-word’ reflects pain that reaches back to slavery days
NEW YORK - Call it “the other N-word.”
Since slavery times, “nappy” has been used to malign the natural hair texture of many people of African descent: dense, dark and tightly curled. So when Don Imus referred to the women of the Rutgers basketball team as “nappy-headed hos” — a widely condemned remark that got him fired Thursday — it cut deeper than many who are unfamiliar with the term might realize.
Even today, with natural black hair in full bloom throughout pop culture, “nappy hair” remains a sensitive issue — especially, as with the original N-word used so casually by many blacks, when a white person uses it.
“When Imus says ’these nappy-headed hos,’ his first flaw is he’s using an in-group term that’s loaded,” said Lanita Jacobs-Huey, associate professor of anthropology and American studies and ethnicity at the University of Southern California.
“When I hear it from someone who doesn’t understand the depth of pain, they just don’t have the right to say it,” Jacobs-Huey said.
The pain goes back to slavery. Whites saw blacks’ natural hair as a negative attribute, a contrast to the European standard of “ideal” beauty. As a result, even blacks started to look down on their own natural features.
“If your hair wasn’t straight, it was called nappy. Nappy hair meant you weren’t beautiful or desirable,” said Nsenga Burton, professor of communications and media studies at Goucher College in Baltimore. “Even within the community, nappy hair for a long time was seen as a bad thing.”
‘The ideal of beauty didn't fit them’
There are accounts of African slaves attempting to change their hair using axle grease or dirty dishwater with oil, said Neal Lester, chairman of the English department at Arizona State University. “Slaves knew the ideal of beauty didn’t fit them,” he said.
More sophisticated methods of altering hair emerged later. Madame C.J. Walker, the first black woman to become a millionaire, made her fortune in the early 20th century on hair-straightening products.
Carla Lynne Hall used similar products until she decided to let her hair grow naturally. And then she met resistance from her own family — especially her hairdresser aunt.
“She hated it,” said Hall, a 39-year-old singer from Harlem. “For women from my aunt’s generation, that’s the worst thing you could do.”
Even a month before her aunt died, when Hall had worn her hair in long dreadlocks for more than a decade, she told Hall that “with a hairstyle like this I would never get a man.”
But attitudes toward hair have changed, especially with the advent of the Civil Rights and Black Power movements, when the afro became popular. Today other styles like braids, locks and everything in between have become accepted as alternatives to chemical straightening, which is still popular as well.
The irony of Imus’ comment is that many of the Rutgers players have straightened hair — and at their news conference Wednesday, it seemed nary a straightened hair was out of place.
“None of them fit the cultural description of what nappy is,” Jacobs-Huey said. “Don is telling us something about himself.”
Making matters worse was Imus’ use of the word “hos,” a hip-hop slang synonym of “*****” or “slut” heard in many rap songs. “That is one of the lowest things you can call a woman,” Burton said.
Women’s groups have condemned Imus for his remarks, although most of the outrage has come from the black community, which was first to speak out.
In the final analysis, the phrase that torpedoed Imus’ legendary radio career was a perfect storm of volatile words with deep and hurtful meanings.
“It’s both racist and misogynist,” said Hall. “It has nothing to do with (the players’) accomplishments, with who they are.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18081301/
USAF Pilot 07
2007-04-12, 07:47 PM
I'm going to make a statement.....I'm white and proud of it. There call me a racist now.
Yea, cracker power! :lol:
cancidas
2007-04-12, 09:07 PM
I'm going to make a statement.....I'm white and proud of it. There call me a racist now.
i second that!
this is getting disgusting already. as far as i see it, we all bleed the same color blood.. that's all that matters.
Don Imus's remarks were not funny at all and could not be considered funny under any circumstance. "Nappy haired hos." That's what Imus said. How is that funny? What does that have to do with basketball?
On the other hand, the hood has taken this type of language to extremes. I've heard many people say "******" and "ho" every other word and I must admit it offends me knowing how unfairly those people were treated, even and especially when it comes from them.
Education is the key, but of course that is a pie in the sky solution. The fact is there is no simple answer here.
I'm white of European descent and proud, but I don't need to lord it over anyone.
I think that in our pursuit of individual freedom, we have stepped over in many areas to some extreme where some of us feel we can do anything we please just because we can get away with it regardless of who it hurts.
My ancient ancestors the Greeks had a saying, "All good things in moderation."
It seems that in our society we have slipped from moderation to extremes. Too bad. America deserves better.
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