Al Gore not setting a good example

[Midnight Mike]

While on Capital Hill, Al Gore was asked to take this pledge:"“


There are hundreds of thousands of people who adore you and would follow your example by reducing their energy usage if you did. Don’t give us the run-around on carbon offsets or the gimmicks the wealthy do,” Senator Inhofe told Gore.

“Are you willing to make a commitment here today by taking this pledge to consume no more energy for use in your residence than the average American household by one year from today?”

Senator Inhofe asked… Gore refused to take the pledge.


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[Mellyrose]

I just want to point one thing out. Just because Al Gore doesn't want to take a pledge and be a hypocrite, doesn't mean the global warming doesn't exist. He is NOT the end all be all of climate change.

Also, for all of the one tracked minds that continue to claim that all democrats are hypocrites, remember that to generalize an entire group of people because of one person's actions is ignorant and unfair.

[hiss srq]

Well for Gore to step out and be the spokesperson he should be acting on what he requests as well so as usual he is proven FULL OF SH*T!

[Mellyrose]

He is not THE spokesperson!!! He took on that role, he wasn't assigned. We could say that Arnold Schwarzenegger or Leonardo DiCaprio are spokesmen for this cause as well, but we don't, since they didn't make movies about it. Sure, he might be a hypocrite, but it's irrelevant at this point. You can say it all you want, but that won't change the effects of global warming either.

[PhilDernerJr]

To Gor'es defense, that video kinda cut off his response.

[moose135]

To Gore's defense, that video kinda cut off his response.

I saw some of the testimony on MSNBC tonight. Inhofe kinda cut off his responses too. Inhofe was clearly trying to show off with this silly "pledge" and got a well deserved smack-down by Sen. Boxer.

[Midnight Mike]

I just want to point one thing out. Just because Al Gore doesn't want to take a pledge and be a hypocrite, doesn't mean the global warming doesn't exist. He is NOT the end all be all of climate change.

Also, for all of the one tracked minds that continue to claim that all democrats are hypocrites, remember that to generalize an entire group of people because of one person's actions is ignorant and unfair.

To confirm the thread that I started, I clearly spoke of Al Gore & no other person & did not bring up whether Global Warming is real or not.

[Midnight Mike]

I saw some of the testimony on MSNBC tonight. Inhofe kinda cut off his responses too. Inhofe was clearly trying to show off with this silly "pledge" and got a well deserved smack-down by Sen. Boxer.

Everybody on Capital Hill grandstands, including Senator Boxer, her comment should have taken place behind the scenes & not in front of the camera.

[Mellyrose]

I know, Mike....that wasn't directed at you. I was preemptively stating my views for the likes of some close minded people.

[nwafan20]

I know, Mike....that wasn't directed at you. I was preemptively stating my views for the likes of some close minded people.

Ah, taking shots at me, eh? :?

I never stated that all democrats are hypocrites, I stated that a lot of the democrat elitists (Al Gore, John Kerry, ect.) are. Heck, I have a lot of friends who range from far left to moderate left. I probably have just as many friends who are democrats as friends who are republicans. I don't think any of them are hypocrites

And as to if global warming is real or not, that isn't what this thread was addressing, we all have our own opinions. if you think mine is wrong, or I think yours is wrong is not the point of the thread.

But also, It is not a good time for Al Gore. He is being chewed out for his hypocritical stances, his movie had a bunch of holes just shot through it by the new documentary "The Great Global Warming Swindle" which was produced in Britain. I don't think Al is having a fun time lately...

[Mellyrose]

Wow, I didn't even think about you when writing that. But hey, if the shoes fits. :roll:

[Matt Molnar]

I'll admit the pledge was sort of a lame ploy, but not any lamer than Gore comparing global warming to a baby with a fever. :roll:

While Gore may have convinced the masses global warming is real, he has not proven that it is caused by man, nor that the drastic sacrifices we'll make in our economy and therefore our day to day lives will make any damn bit of difference. Of course, as tends to be the case when massive amounts of money are spent, the poor in our country and those in the third world, who up until now were the libs' biggest concern, will be hurt the most.

On the bright side, I doubt any of these drastic measures will go anywhere. So far, no one has made any sacrifices. But if Congress starts trying to implement "global warming taxes" and the people who think Gore is a "prophet" now realize they're going to have to shell out cash for something they can't see, I think this movement will come to a swift halt.

[nwafan20]

Wow, I didn't even think about you when writing that. But hey, if the shoes fits. :roll:

Well I appologise, I thought you were reffering to me. But no, the shoe doesn't fit.

[Tom_Turner]

. Of course, as tends to be the case when massive amounts of money are spent, the poor in our country and those in the third world, who up until now were the libs' biggest concern, will be hurt the most.


Well, thats perfect then. Another liberal led policy - not unlike their support for Crime, Education, Environmental policy that hurts most of their base - but ironically, grows the political base by making the problems worse for the "victims" they purport to want to help.

[Tom_Turner]

I just want to point one thing out. Just because Al Gore doesn't want to take a pledge and be a hypocrite, doesn't mean the global warming doesn't exist. He is NOT the end all be all of climate change.


If Al Gore starts insisting that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west and he somehow believes this contributes to global warming and then makes a movie about it, and flies to Japan to sign an "international accord", to work towards changing the earth's axis to the sun, that won't mean "global warming" doesn't exist either, but it might cause some folks to be mislead.

As for his private production of CO2 gases, well, whatever.. Bill & Hillary sent their daughter to a private school, and the Republicans tried to make an "issue" out of it. I suppose President Bush & VP Cheney should go to an HMO as well...

WE should have a horse in the senate like the Romans had....with equal voting powers. Maybe make it the head of a committee.

Once again, political infighting and turf battles are keeping us from leading the world in a whole new area of technological and economic development.

If global warming is real, then we would be well served to do something about it. Even if it is not, the development of new technologies can only add to our economy and global competitive position.

This great country was built on innovation, raw materials, control of raw materials and know-how.

Look around you...we have lost much of the above to global competitors like China, India and Brazil. The status quo will not help us to reverse the trend.

Who cares about Al Gore giving his little performance? Who cares about the Republican performance?

These people have big interests at stake and they are fighting tooth and nail for them.

But if global warming is real, then the overall cost to the economy will be catastrophic. This is why Fortune 500 CEO's are now reversing their position to cautiously support a broad strategic plan to counter a worst case scenario.

The United States is facing the most serious economic challenge in its history. The elite have chosen to send millions of jobs abroad. This administration has amassed the largest government debt in our history. China is our biggest creditor. We are losing the most educated specialists with graduate degrees to other countries in key areas such as mathematics, the sciences and engineering. Research and development budgets for American concerns are the lowest in modern times, while other nations are actually spending vast amounts to develop the next generation of technologies and the derivative products that will drive the global economy over the next 20 to 50 years. Add global warming to this picture and I just don't see a happy ending for us.

It's sad that we have become so politically polarized that no one seems to talk of a common sense middle of the road approach any more. Many people are so entrenched in their point of view that it appears to me few will even listen to another point of view.

I don't think that one side or another has the total truth. I think all sides should be listened to and the best arguments from all sides can be negotiated into workable solutions. Otherwise, we are reduced to the rule of the mob or of the strongest or of the connected or of the guys with the best propaganda machine.

My little note turned out to be longer than I wanted. Kindly excuse me.

[Tom_Turner]

While I am somewhat sympathetic to environmentalist zealots, I am not really convinced there is anything we can do about Global Warming.

Misallocating resources on an incorrect notion may only hasten any economic ruin that might be coming anyway...for reasons unrelated.

We could have more nuclear power - but that has its own issues - and was politically derailed not too long ago. There was a "No Nukes" concert in New York. I went to it and enjoyed it. I hear there will be a big conert for Global Warming soon.

Our elected leaders are vastly overrepresented by lawyers (not economists -- and certainly not scientists). I hope they are up to the challenges the future holds.

There are a lot of things that might "get us". Asteroids and Pandemics and Nuclear weapons probably foremost amongst them. Stil some time to work on those hopefully. Probably nothing to be done in the event of a Super Volcano except to worry about it.

[mirrodie]

It's sad that we have become so politically polarized that no one seems to talk of a common sense middle of the road approach any more. Many people are so entrenched in their point of view that it appears to me few will even listen to another point of view.


100% agreed. It's plainly obvious that too many people flood a simple concept with their political upbringing. THat Gore is a Dem, or Republican is irrelevant to the matter at hand, but some are so myopic that they can't see that.

Some people are simply cerebrally challenged in that they cannot separate politics from religion, environmental issues, etc.