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Andriy
2007-03-01, 12:45 AM
http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3 :shock:
Derf
2007-03-01, 01:56 AM
http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3 :shock:

Wow, that is some stress right there
Tom_Turner
2007-03-01, 03:49 AM
Love it.

Tom
Nonstop2AUH
2007-03-01, 04:40 AM
There's more than a little local flavor in there, very enlightening about the workload...And did I detect an issue with the length of the Iberia A340-600??
PhilDernerJr
2007-03-01, 09:52 AM
The A346 is not allowed on certain taxiways due to its size, but it's usually not that big of an issue unless it's clogged up out there like in that clip.

At first I just thought the hawker was causing trouble but cutting inline, but obviously it was much more than that.

Best phrase from the whole clip (just after the 10 -minute mark):

"And you're where and doin what, short of who?"
nwafan20
2007-03-01, 05:27 PM
I believe the A346 is class V, same class as the 747. Or is it just something special at JFK?
cancidas
2007-03-01, 08:37 PM
the A346 had a longer wheelbase than the 747, and certain turns it can't make because of that. at least that's the way it was explained to me...
HPNPilot1200
2007-03-02, 08:07 PM
http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3 :shock:

Good 'ol Arnie. He's a well known JFK controller in the LiveATC community, and always entertaining to listen to. You can find many more clips of him on the LiveATC.net forums.

Sure makes for interesting listening!
hiss srq
2007-03-02, 08:08 PM
the A346 had a longer wheelbase than the 747, and certain turns it can't make because of that. at least that's the way it was explained to me...

That and the fact that that toad for as long as it is dones not have body gear steering like a 744 for example.
hiss srq
2007-03-03, 08:50 PM
Theres another clip of this guy I have on my laptop someplace of this controller with an Iberia A-340-600 as well where the controller snapped on the toad jet and he ended up going onto a taxiway that the type was not supposed to be on than the guy completely botched his readback and danced around the fact he did it so the controller told him to stop till a port truck got out ot lead him to where he needed to be.
Futterman
2007-03-03, 09:27 PM
Theres another clip of this guy I have on my laptop someplace of this controller with an Iberia A-340-600 as well where the controller snapped on the toad jet and he ended up going onto a taxiway that the type was not supposed to be on than the guy completely botched his readback and danced around the fact he did it so the controller told him to stop till a port truck got out ot lead him to where he needed to be.

Dear Ryan,

. , . ,

Signed,
Grammar
PhilDernerJr
2007-03-03, 10:19 PM
Theres another clip of this guy I have on my laptop someplace of this controller with an Iberia A-340-600 as well where the controller snapped on the toad jet and he ended up going onto a taxiway that the type was not supposed to be on than the guy completely botched his readback and danced around the fact he did it so the controller told him to stop till a port truck got out ot lead him to where he needed to be.

Dear Ryan,

. , . ,

Signed,
Grammar

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