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Midnight Mike
2007-01-18, 06:59 PM
Muslims Unhappy Over `24' Portrayal
Muslims Protest Reprised Role As Terrorists in Fox Hit Series `24'
By WAYNE PARRY
The Associated Press
CLIFTON, N.J. - Two years ago, Muslim groups protested when the plot of the hit Fox drama `24' cast Islamic terrorists as the villains who launched a stolen nuclear missile in an attack on America.

Now, after a one-year respite during which Russian separatists played the bad guys on the critically acclaimed series, Muslims are back in the evil spotlight. Unlike last time, when agent Jack Bauer saved the day, the terrorists this time have already succeeded in detonating a nuclear bomb in a Los Angeles suburb.


Being portrayed again as the heartless wrongdoers has drawn renewed protests from Muslim groups, including one that had a meeting with Fox executives two years ago over the issue.


"The overwhelming impression you get is fear and hatred for Muslims," said Rabiah Ahmed, a spokeswoman for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations. She said Thursday she was distressed by this season's premiere. "After watching that show, I was afraid to go to the grocery store because I wasn't sure the person next to me would be able to differentiate between fiction and reality."


She said the group had a conference call Wednesday with Fox executives to protest the current plot line and request more positive portrayals of Muslims on the show, but was not promised anything.


After a January 2005 meeting with CAIR, Fox aired a commercial in which the show's star, Kiefer Sutherland, urged viewers to keep in mind that the show's villains are not representative of all Muslims.


In a written statement issued late Wednesday night, the network said it has not singled out any ethnic or religious group for blame in creating its characters.


"24 is a heightened drama about anti-terrorism," the statement read. "After five seasons, the audience clearly understands this, and realizes that any individual, family, or group (ethnic or otherwise) that engages in violence is not meant to be typical.


"Over the past several seasons, the villains have included shadowy Anglo businessmen, Baltic Europeans, Germans, Russians, Islamic fundamentalists, and even the (Anglo-American) president of the United States," the network said. "The show has made a concerted effort to show ethnic, religious and political groups as multidimensional, and political issues are debated from multiple viewpoints."


The current season began with Muslim terrorists waging an 11-week campaign of suicide bombings across America, culminating in the detonation of a suitcase-sized nuclear bomb in Valencia, Calif., about 26 miles north of Los Angeles. Estimated death toll: 12,000.


Watching the show's characters talk about detonating a nuclear weapon a few blocks from where she works unnerved Sireen Sawaf, an official with the Los Angeles-based Muslim Public Affairs Council, and a self-described "huge `24' fan."


"It's a great show, and I do realize it's a multidimensional show that portrays extreme situations," she said. "They have gone out of their way to have non-Muslim terror cells.


"But I'm concerned about the image it ingrains in the minds of the American public and the American government, particularly when you have anti-Muslim statements spewing from the mouths of government officials."


Sohail Mohammed, a New Jersey immigration lawyer who represented scores of detainees caught up in the post Sept. 11, 2001 dragnet, watched the episode depicting the nuclear attack with an Associated Press reporter.


"I was shocked," he said. "Somewhere, some lunatic out there watching this will do something to an innocent American Muslim because he believes what he saw on TV."


Engy Abdelkader, a member of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee from Howell, N.J., launched a campaign Wednesday to encourage Muslims offended by the program to complain to Fox.


"I found the portrayal of American Muslims to be pretty horrendous," she said. "It was denigrating from beginning to end. This is one of the most popular programs on television today. It's pretty distressing."


Concerns about Muslims' civil rights, detention of terror suspects in Guantanamo-like holding centers, and stereotyping are given vastly expanded treatment on `24' this year. In one exchange, the show depicts the president's national security adviser challenging the White House chief of staff over the detention of Muslims without criminal charges.


"Right now the American Muslim community is our greatest asset," the security adviser says. "They have provided law enforcement with hundreds of tips, and not a single member of that community has been implicated in these attacks."


"So far," the chief of staff responds.

nwafan20
2007-01-18, 07:06 PM
Come on,

"Over the past several seasons, the villains have included shadowy Anglo businessmen, Baltic Europeans, Germans, Russians, Islamic fundamentalists, and even the (Anglo-American) president of the United States,"


Now that it is time for Muslims to be in the spotlight, everyone is up in arms? I think FOX did a fair job portraying several ethnic and political groups, they need to learn not to be so sensitive. After all, "24" is meant to be a sort of real life fictional show, and who exactly attacked us on 9/11? It wasn't the Russians. Now I'm not calling for Muslims to be portrayed as terrorists in every episode, not at all. I'm just saying, they need to understand that when it is their turn in line, they have no room to complain. They even portrayed a fictional president of the United States as a "Bad guy" in one episode. Pfft, give me a break!

PhilDernerJr
2007-01-18, 07:14 PM
....Pfft.....!

'Nuff said. Word up.

yaas
2007-01-18, 07:17 PM
Phil, your new haircut is doing wonders for your street cred.

nwafan20
2007-01-18, 07:23 PM
....Pfft.....!

'Nuff said. Word up.

:lol: , I agree, your haircut Phil, it's all in the hair "Homie"

hiss srq
2007-01-18, 07:39 PM
I think people should give it up. Every race gets it. AZ few days ago law and order made one where there were going after a group of Albanians from the Alb. Mafia and the only thing they got right was the code of lek.
Its just their turn as Carlos Mencia once said.

Tom_Turner
2007-01-18, 10:17 PM
<< Rabiah Ahmed, a spokeswoman for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations. She said Thursday she was distressed by this season's premiere. "After watching that show,>> [blah blah blah] <<I wasn't sure the person next to me would be able to differentiate between fiction and reality." >>

Thats funny, I had the same thought watching Sum of All Fears when the we saw "Nazis" detonate a nuke in Maryland.

I guess up next it should have been the Roman Empire or the Incas, or Pygmies attacking contemporary America with WMD. Borat was right... better to drive across America than fly..in case the the Jews do another 911.

Futterman
2007-01-19, 12:13 AM
I guess up next it should have been the Roman Empire or the Incas, or Pygmies attacking contemporary America with WMD. Borat was right... better to drive across America than fly..in case the the Jews do another 911.

Tom, will you marry me?

Art at ISP
2007-01-19, 10:11 AM
I am getting tired of the whining of the Muslim community, especially when they do nothing to control or condemn these animals, who, NEWSFLASH, ARE Muslims. If you can't publicly condemn these people, which you don't, then one can infer you agree with them, so go pound sand.

Get over it. And if you don't like it here, feel free to leave.

Sorry--don't mean to be politically incorrect, but facts are facts.

I'll even go a step further--if we continue to develop alternate sources of energy, and remove the value of oil, we'll take away their power and money, and the world will be a safer place.

Rant over.

mirrodie
2007-01-19, 10:12 AM
I guess up next it should have been the Roman Empire or the Incas, or Pygmies attacking contemporary America with WMD. Borat was right... better to drive across America than fly..in case the the Jews do another 911.

Tom, will you marry me?

Was I the only person who saw the brilliance in that film?


24 is in its 5th season now. They'll be fine. I recall some turksih guy on Anet complaining that his people were wrongly portrayed in the film...

Next year, It'll probably be the N Korea or the Chinese and I guess we'll be reading about that.

RDU-JFK
2007-01-19, 10:16 AM
I am getting tired of the whining of the Muslim community, especially when they do nothing to control or condemn these animals, who, NEWSFLASH, ARE Muslims. If you can't publicly condemn these people, which you don't, then one can infer you agree with them, so go pound sand.

Get over it. And if you don't like it here, feel free to leave.

Sorry--don't mean to be politically incorrect, but facts are facts.

I'll even go a step further--if we continue to develop alternate sources of energy, and remove the value of oil, we'll take away their power and money, and the world will be a safer place.

Rant over.


Agreed 110%. Well said.

Midnight Mike
2007-01-19, 10:27 AM
Here is a very interesting video


http://www.cnn.com/video/bestoftv/2007/ ... ntent.html (http://www.cnn.com/video/bestoftv/2007/01/17/the.war.within.the.debate.cnn/content.html)

T-Bird76
2007-01-19, 05:27 PM
I am so sick and tired of these people, they don't even make up one percent of our overall population. Perhaps when the Muslim community wakes up and begins helping us defeat the radicals we will look at them in a different light. However until then they can accept the looks, the stereotypes, and the suspicions. As Art said if they don't like it I'm sure they would be welcomed with open arms back in the Mid East.

NcSchu
2007-01-19, 11:13 PM
This thread is getting pretty racist...

Matt Molnar
2007-01-20, 12:43 AM
I don't watch 24, but it's my understanding that there is a Muslim working for the good guys this season, thereby negating everything these people are saying. Sort of the same thing as when certain Italian groups complain about how The Sopranos builds stereotypes about all Italians being in the mob...you just have to point out that many of the FBI characters trying to put the mobsters in jail are Italian too.

Art at ISP
2007-01-20, 10:05 AM
Nick,

This thread is in no way racist. It is on topic, and is not untrue. Muslims come in many races, white, Arab, Hispanic, as we have seen, so race has nothing to do with this.

By all means feel free to disagree, but please don't get race into it.

Steven Holzinger
2007-01-20, 03:09 PM
24 is actually in its sixth season... best show ever!

NcSchu
2007-01-20, 03:44 PM
Nick,

This thread is in no way racist. It is on topic, and is not untrue. Muslims come in many races, white, Arab, Hispanic, as we have seen, so race has nothing to do with this.

By all means feel free to disagree, but please don't get race into it.

Sorry, I thought religion was bundled with race in racism, but upon further research I have realized it is not. However I think some of posts in this thread can easily be classified as offensive to say the least. Just my two cents.

T-Bird76
2007-01-20, 04:31 PM
Nick,

This thread is in no way racist. It is on topic, and is not untrue. Muslims come in many races, white, Arab, Hispanic, as we have seen, so race has nothing to do with this.

By all means feel free to disagree, but please don't get race into it.

Sorry, I thought religion was bundled with race in racism, but upon further research I have realized it is not. However I think some of posts in this thread can easily be classified as offensive to say the least. Just my two cents.

What's offensive to me is the lack of cooperation many Muslim leaders show this nation and for not speaking up against terror. That's what's offensive sir.