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G-BOAD
07-20-2006, 08:46 AM
recently i uploaded the photos to jetphotos, and as usual i got a rejection email. i agree with the reasons, but how can i fix it. im not a real whiz when it comes to photoshop, so can somebody help me. Nic V has told be about leveling and i think that's what i need to do for the 2nd photo. for the first i shrunk it down to 1024 pixels and that's when the quality got worse, unlike how i would think (and people say) that it does get better. also i know i can corp it to reduce the "too much space". well, anyway thanks for you help, and here are my photos.

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1069695

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1069689


i would really like to get some photos on jetphotos or a.net because i dont have Even ONE. thanks.

sluger020889
07-31-2006, 07:29 PM
They might be salvagable, if you'd like I can give them an edit, or some pointers in PS. You can shoot me the originals at [email protected]

moose135
07-31-2006, 08:06 PM
Downloaded a copy of your jp.net file - the original is better to work from, but here's a quick & dirty re-edit:

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h87/moose135/NYCA/aa757landingatsxm_re-edit.jpg

I started by rotating the shot about 1 degree clockwise, it might even need a touch more. I cropped in closer to the aircraft, eliminating the dead sky above while keeping some of the flavor of the SXM experience. I brightened it by adjusting the levels, added a touch of contrast & color saturation (which can get lost in brightening). I then selected the aircraft & foreground (actually selected the sky & did an inverse selection) and applied a couple of passes of USM. I should probably deal with some of the jaggies around the trailing edges, but you get the idea.

BTW, I'm using Photoshop Elements 2.0 (came free with my 300D)

NIKV69
07-31-2006, 08:32 PM
Your window shot can def be saved, it needs to be leveled and sharpened a little, its a good shot. I would download and print that PDF fergul has on anet, its a great way to learn the basics of PS, then after that practice a lot and buy a book about PS and use it, after a while you will improve.

G-BOAD
08-19-2006, 04:55 AM
thanks for your help. i can do much because I'm in Poland and i cant send the photos b/c im using Internet cafes. once i get back on sep 3 i will send the photos. thank you. :D

G-BOAD
09-07-2006, 04:17 PM
Your window shot can def be saved, it needs to be leveled and sharpened a little, its a good shot. I would download and print that PDF fergul has on anet, its a great way to learn the basics of PS, then after that practice a lot and buy a book about PS and use it, after a while you will improve.

i did read that like you told me, but did not uderstand a word of it. that is why i made this thread.

Mellyrose
09-07-2006, 04:22 PM
Tell us what you don't understand...we're here to help you, G-BOAD! Do you have Photoshop (PS)? If not, you should try and get even a basic version, just to learn on.

If you are a beginner, the best way to learn PS is step by step....function by function; not all at once. If you don't know how to level a shot, learn that first. Don't try to learn an entire workflow or else you'll drive yourself crazy.

Do some googling, post on the boards, use the Photoshop help feature that is built in. The great thing about the program, is that the more you use it, the more you learn and discover and the better you get.

Good luck. Post any questions. I'm happy to help. :)

sluger020889
09-07-2006, 07:36 PM
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4382/sxmcard2004mygoxk9.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2227/sxmcard2026mygofq4.jpg

Here are my two attempts, just had a quick go at them, just to give you a general idea. I should haVe adjusted the color a bit in the 2nd one, but again it was a quick edit.

G-BOAD
09-08-2006, 05:55 AM
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4382/sxmcard2004mygoxk9.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2227/sxmcard2026mygofq4.jpg

Here are my two attempts, just had a quick go at them, just to give you a general idea. I should haVe adjusted the color a bit in the 2nd one, but again it was a quick edit.

thanks for your help with the photos. i will try uploading them, just can you send them to [email protected] thanks

Thanks to everyone in this thread that was trying to help me.

i read to PDF but i dont know how to sharpen, and select sky, the unselect it , then reverse, the expand by 1 pixel. i just dont understand it.


thanks
-matt

PS. i have photoshop CS

G-BOAD
09-25-2006, 08:07 PM
well, i made it into the database, just it was not my photo, but my face.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5772887
i am the guy next to the surf board.
here is my pic:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/sxmcard1072.jpg
(i didnt have good setting on my camera)
all the photos i sent did not get in, and the one of the landing from the planes with editing help from Mellyrose was rejected for unlevel horizon. thanks to all who helped, and sluger, can you please email me those photos to [email protected]
thanks
and here i have some other photos, can you tell me what you think?
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/sxmcard2007.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/sxmcard2003.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/sxmcard2008.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/sxmcard1069.jpg

PhilDernerJr
09-25-2006, 08:09 PM
These shtos are nice. They might not be able to make it to JP or Anet, but realyl enjoyable to look at.

Mellyrose
09-25-2006, 08:11 PM
the one of the landing from the planes with editing help from Mellyrose was rejected for unlevel horizon

Just wanted to let you know that whatever lens you're using somehow skews the photos a bit, therefore making it impossible to get a level horizon.

Your other shots look good...do you like, LIVE at SXM? All from the same trip, or what?

glennstewart
09-25-2006, 08:58 PM
Just wanted to let you know that whatever lens you're using somehow skews the photos a bit, therefore making it impossible to get a level horizon.

Your other shots look good...do you like, LIVE at SXM? All from the same trip, or what?

From the viewpoint of an Airliners.net screener, with regards to any lenses that skew perspective (i.e. fisheye or extreme wide), we would take a look at the centre of the shot as a guide to level. We expect the outer edges to look bent, but a building edge or pole (for example) in the centre, should be straight.

My golden rule though is that it should look straight and level at a glance. The human eye can detect small changes in degrees. Far more than we give ourselves credit for. If it looks right to you, then chances are it will look right for the screeners too.

G-BOAD
09-26-2006, 03:17 PM
the one of the landing from the planes with editing help from Mellyrose was rejected for unlevel horizon

Just wanted to let you know that whatever lens you're using somehow skews the photos a bit, therefore making it impossible to get a level horizon.

Your other shots look good...do you like, LIVE at SXM? All from the same trip, or what?

i would like to, but no, i live in new york. its all from the same trip. thanks for your help.

I also started trying Photoshop. here are some shots of an Iberia from Sep 9th.
The first one: no editing- rejected for bad framing and composition (unsharp/ soft)

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/iberiaa340jfksep9ms.jpg

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1136529

2nd one: sharpened, of what i could understand
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/iberiaa340jfksep9mssharened.jpg

3rd one: some stuff with "level command": (not re-sized to 1024 pixels)

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/iberiaa340jfksep9msNEW.jpg

so, what do i need to learn and what do you think?

Mellyrose
09-26-2006, 03:50 PM
Just wanted to let you know that whatever lens you're using somehow skews the photos a bit, therefore making it impossible to get a level horizon.

Your other shots look good...do you like, LIVE at SXM? All from the same trip, or what?

From the viewpoint of an Airliners.net screener, with regards to any lenses that skew perspective (i.e. fisheye or extreme wide), we would take a look at the centre of the shot as a guide to level. We expect the outer edges to look bent, but a building edge or pole (for example) in the centre, should be straight.

My golden rule though is that it should look straight and level at a glance. The human eye can detect small changes in degrees. Far more than we give ourselves credit for. If it looks right to you, then chances are it will look right for the screeners too.

It wasn't a wide-angle or fish eye type of skew illusion....no matter what I did to the rotation of these photos, SOMETHING would look off. I consider myself to have a very keen eye for details like this, and it just wasn't sitting right with me.

G-BOAD: What are you shooting with?

G-BOAD
09-26-2006, 03:54 PM
i use the 8 megapixel pansonic Lumix, but when i was landing at SXM i used my mom's Cannon Powershot.

glennstewart
09-27-2006, 02:09 AM
I did to the rotation of these photos, SOMETHING would look off. I consider myself to have a very keen eye for details like this, and it just wasn't sitting right with me.


This follows my point fairly well. I guess a good example would be some of my flatmate's fish eye stuff.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1111693/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1111686/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1111686/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1095328/L/

This is as skewed as you can get :roll: but it still seem to rotate okay (after about five attempts and saying - "something just doesn't look right")

G-BOAD
10-11-2006, 08:50 PM
here is the latest editing things i tired.

tell me what you think, and mainly, how can a get better!
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/polandholland2006058color.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/REBKan2msblackandwhite.jpg

T-Bird76
10-11-2006, 09:01 PM
I like the B/W but its a bit off center to me. You have more space in the picture near the tail then you do the nose. Even it up a bit and sharpen it a bit as well, its somewhat soft. I like this shot alot though, simple yet interesting.

G-BOAD
10-11-2006, 09:30 PM
thanks for the advice, i will see what i can do

G-BOAD
10-11-2006, 09:48 PM
i tried so editing, dont know if turned out well, i was reading the PDF.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/BKan2msblackandwhiteanotheredit.jpg

T-Bird76
10-12-2006, 07:27 AM
WOW I really like this shot! The setting and the b/w really date the picture, making it look much older then it is. Nice job, and the edit looks good!

G-BOAD
10-12-2006, 05:26 PM
thanks, i sent it to jetphotos but its not going to get in.

G-BOAD
10-15-2006, 08:25 PM
How did i know?
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1173198
if some one can help me fix this it would be appreciated
thanks

nwafan20
10-15-2006, 08:46 PM
Nice photo man, but I think the rejection was justified. I don't have photoshop on this computer so I can't help you but just run it through USM a bit.

G-BOAD
10-17-2006, 06:31 AM
thanks. i placed on an USM from what i know, and we will see what happens. (I'm an not the guy that is great, or even understands half of photoshop)

G-BOAD
10-17-2006, 05:05 PM
i have some other photos that need sharpening and other editing. i have no idea how to sharpen, so somebody PLEASE help me!
thanks

nwafan20
10-17-2006, 05:59 PM
I'm not the best in Photoshop myself but I know a decent amount. Are you using a workflow, if so which one?

G-BOAD
10-17-2006, 07:37 PM
i did read the PDF on airliners but there are so many levels and % ans stuff and i dont know how to adjust time. also i don't know how many times to run it through, or if applying the USM several times does anything. i take a pic, open with photoshop, crop, re-size, then sharpen from what i understand, the submit.

G-BOAD
10-17-2006, 07:39 PM
here are the photos:
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1175516
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1173198

Iberia A340-600
10-17-2006, 08:15 PM
Hey Mat I really like the Lot photo!

nwafan20
10-17-2006, 08:29 PM
For workflows try:

http://www.jid.me.uk/workflow/

http://rockymountainavphotos.com/Eric/workflow.html


I find Rockymountain's workflow a lot more easier to follow, but once you get the hang of it, try checking out Jid's workflow.

nwafan20
10-17-2006, 10:59 PM
Could you email me the origonals of the ones you would like help with:

[email protected]

G-BOAD
10-18-2006, 06:17 PM
Thanks Gordon!

@NWA thanks for the sites. i will try to edit my photos with the work flow, and if it does not work out i will send them to you. thanks for your help!

nwafan20
10-18-2006, 08:25 PM
Your welcome. This is how I learned, I was right in your boat a few months ago, I am still learning a lot every day.

nwafan20
10-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Actually, could you send the photos to me anyway? I kind of need the practice.

G-BOAD
10-18-2006, 08:55 PM
sure thing, i am sending the email right now.
i an sending 5 pics poland and JFK
thanks!
-matt

G-BOAD
10-18-2006, 09:45 PM
i cant send it, i got an email it was not sent. i will try again, but sorry for now

nwafan20
10-19-2006, 02:24 PM
Thanks for trying, if you got the address wrong, it's [email protected]

G-BOAD
10-19-2006, 05:40 PM
i sent the email. i just want to know if you got it, was was there another problem?

nwafan20
10-19-2006, 06:02 PM
Alright, got it! Thanks!

nwafan20
10-19-2006, 06:46 PM
Alright guys, heres a few. What do you guys think? Wht's wrong with it/what can I improve before I go to work on the others?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/nwafan20/editedoneBA744G-BOAD.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/nwafan20/editedtwoKLM744G-BOAD.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/nwafan20/editthreeFNMD-11G-BOAD.jpg

Iberia A340-600
10-19-2006, 06:52 PM
Hey Mat could you send me the original version of the LOT shot? I'll try and take a stab at it.

G-BOAD
10-22-2006, 05:07 PM
Thanks a lot guys! all your help led to this:
http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php