Gay Marriage Ban....some facts

[Princee]

In regards to this: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/07/washi ... -cong.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/07/washington/07cnd-cong.html)


Ronald Reagan - divorced the mother of two of his children to marry Nancy Reagan, who bore him a daughter only 7 months after the marriage.

Bob Dole - divorced the mother of his child, who had nursed him through the long recovery from his war wounds.

Newt Gingrich - divorced his wife who was dying of cancer.

Dick Armey - House Majority Leader - divorced

Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas - divorced

Gov. John Engler of Michigan - divorced

Gov. Pete Wilson of California - divorced

George Will - divorced

Sen. Lauch Faircloth - divorced

Rush Limbaugh - Rush and his current wife Marta have six marriages and four divorces between them.

Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia - Barr, not yet 50 years old, has been married three times. Barr had the audacity to author and push the "Defense of Marriage Act." The current joke making the rounds on Capitol Hill is "Bob Barr...WHICH marriage are you defending?!?

Sen. Alfonse D'Amato of New York - divorced

Sen. John Warner of Virginia - divorced (once married to Liz Taylor.)

Gov. George Allen of Virginia - divorced

Henry Kissinger - divorced

Rep. Helen Chenoweth of Idaho - divorced

Sen. John McCain of Arizonia - divorced

Rep. John Kasich of Ohio - divorced

Rep. Susan Molinari of New York - Republican National Convention Keynote Speaker - divorced

So...homosexuals are going to destroy the institution of marriage? Wait a minute, it seems the Christian Heterosexual Republicans are doing a fine job without anyone's help!

Hypocrisy at it's best - any thoughts?

[Midnight Mike]

Thoughts? Hypocrites are on both side of the political aisle


Kerry stated: "I believe the right answer is civil unions. I oppose
gay marriage and disagree with the Massachusetts court's decision."

http://www.nyblade.com/2004/2-6/news/national/


Democratic Party Chair Howard Dean, appearing on the Christian Broadcasting Network, erroneously stated that the party's 2004 platform says 'marriage is between a man and a woman.' Christian conservative Pat Robertson is host of the program. "The Democratic Party platform from 2004 says marriage is between a man and a woman," Dean said May 10 during a "700 Club" program hosted by conservative Christian leader Pat Robertson on his Christian Broadcasting Network.


During the third 2004 presidential debate, John Kerry said, "The president and I share the belief that marriage is between a man and a woman. I believe that. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman." And of course Bill Clinton signed into law the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as "a legal union of one man and one woman as husband and wife" and frees states from having to honor same-sex marriages from other states.


Half of Americans (51%) continue to oppose legalizing gay marriage,

http://people-press.org/reports/display ... portID=273 (http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=273)


Polls show that religious commitment is a clear factor in the opposition to gay marriage. According to a July 2005 survey by the Pew Forum and the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, Americans oppose gay marriage 53% to 36%, but those with a high level of religious commitment oppose it by a substantially wider margin of 74% to18%. Opposition among white evangelicals is even higher, at 79%, and among white evangelicals with high religious commitment it is 87%. This gap exists for Catholics as well: Catholics oppose gay marriage by a plurality of 48%, but those with high religious commitment oppose it by 66%. Seculars, on the other hand, favor gay marriage 61%-27%. Support for both gay marriage and civil unions has remained constant or increased slightly among most religious groups since August 2004.

http://pewforum.org/gay-marriage/

[Matt Molnar]

On one hand, I say let the public decide. On the other, there's no doubt that had the Confederacy held a referendum to end slavery, the public would have voted against it.

Personally I don't have a problem with gays marrying. But much of the country does, and the opposition is made up of vastly different groups, not only conservative Republicans. And I have a big problem with the Gay Lobby purposely bringing this issue to the public consciousness at a time when the country is facing so many dire problems which may decide whether the United States will still be around in 50 years.

[Midnight Mike]

On one hand, I say let the public decide. On the other, there's no doubt that had the Confederacy held a referendum to end slavery, the public would have voted against it.

Personally I don't have a problem with gays marrying. But much of the country does, and the opposition is made up of vastly different groups, not only conservative Republicans. And I have a big problem with the Gay Lobby purposely bringing this issue to the public consciousness at a time when the country is facing so many dire problems which may decide whether the United States will still be around in 50 years.

If they were to let the public decide, the public would decide against gay marriage. President Clinton signed into law that marriage is between a man & woman.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 224-2.html (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040224-2.html)


Eight years ago, Congress passed, and President Clinton signed, the Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage for purposes of federal law as the legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife.

The Act passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 342 to 67, and the Senate by a vote of 85 to 14. Those congressional votes and the passage of similar defensive marriage laws in 38 states express an overwhelming consensus in our country for protecting the institution of marriage.

Now, in my opinion, the Government should not be involved in marriage as it is a religous act, but, siince the Government is involved, then it should be left up to the States. At the same time, marriage is a rerligous act, & gay marraige is not accepted by organizes religious as of yet, so, I have mixed feelings.

[moose135]

It's not the "Gay Lobby" pushing this when there are more important things to deal with, it's Bush and his pals looking to shore up support amongst the Conservative Christian groups so they come out and support them in the next election.

Funny how Republicans are all for a smaller government - just small enough to fit in your bedroom!

To me, it comes down to the fact that allows gays to marry won't effect me at all, so why shouldn't they be allowed to?

I find it incredibly ironic that the Right Wing insists that the way to "save" marriage is to make it illegal for some people to get married.

[T-Bird76]

Moose your right, Bush is doing just about anything right now to save whatever is left of his Presidency. He's lost so much support on both sides he's truly a lame duck at this point. This country has allot more domestic issues to deal with then gay marriage. Just to name a few, education, health care, our slowing economy, energy prices, and our ever growing debt. As this is going on Bush is worried who's banging who behind closed doors. I'm convinced he should be considered one of the worst leaders this country has ever seen.