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    NYC - ATC - 5/8/2015 - New Pattern?

    I was very surprised to see a 747 crossing lower Brooklyn today where I normally see LGA planes lining up for a landing.
    Is this a new pattern?


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    I've seen them use this approach before albeit the rare occasion. It's weather related. There was almost zero visibility this morning.
    -Don B.

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    Thanks for the explanation. There was a very heavy fog on one side and sunshine on the other.
    It made for a very interesting sky this morning with JFK and LGA traffic flying in parallel over Brooklyn.
    Seems to be back to normal now.


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    Never seen it like it was this morning; clear and a million in downtown Brooklyn, but apparently foggy enough to run the ILS out in Queens. Made for a nice change of pace seeing the heavies fly over the house instead of the usual LaGuardia mix.

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    The ILS 13L approach is what we call the "last resort approach". It negatively impacts EWR, LGA and TEB when it is in use. But in certain poor conditions (like this morning), it is the best/only option.
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    Max: which software are you using to capture the traffic into JFK? Thanks

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    This approach has been around for decades, but only used when visibility is down to nothing. I remember being a kid and living in Woodbaven and I found myself glued looking out the window listening and every once in awhile catching a glimpse of the arriving aircraft breaking through some of the low ceiling. I would hear the engines spooling up and down as their approach for 13L was made. When you stepped outside you can smell the jet fuel ..... Ahhhhhh ..... Which was awesome! So, this is nothing new but just used rarely.
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    JZ,

    The screen shots are from WebTrak.
    http://webtrak5.bksv.com/panynj

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