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    KPHL/KEWR Security Updates

    I live about 20 minutes away from KEWR and have been forcibly removed from that place more times that I can count. I have been there a lot so not many cops don't know who I am. I've been able to shoot through the fence in the Airis parking lot with a friend who works for Worldwide Flight Services and have the NYPD and PAPD just smile and wave as they drove by. That was when I was with a group. Did the same thing by myself and voila! I get busted within 10 minutes being there. I have concluded that there are two great places to slip the PAPD and NYPD. If you park in the Airis Dr. parking lot and stay in the car and shoot through the windows, you'll get some great shots of 22L arrivals and you could even get some shots through the fence from the front seat of your car. The cars patrolling the perimeter won't even notice you and you'll get some great shots of the 22L arrivals. When they are running the 4's go into the IKEA parking lot. I don't see what all the fuss is. Parked in a remote location many times and stayed in the car and got some great sunset shots of 4R arrivals. Those are the only two places acceptable at EWR that are both quality spots and save from police.
    I also went to PHL for the first time and while it was a haul it was certainly worth it. Security there is almost non-existent patrolling the fenceline and although I don't recommend it, I got some few quality shots of touchdown smoke and a head on view down runway 35. We drove along Hog Island Road as they were running the 27's and 35 for the small guys. As long as you park your car on the other side of the road and cross the street to get to the fence you're all good. We stayed in the car and waited for the sound of a big jet coming then dashed across the road and setup to take pictures. A cop drove by a couple times but didn't really pay us any mind. I can't say all of them are like that but going in a group certainly helps. Right under the final approach course for 27L there is a road entrance to pull into and park. Park before it on the side away from the runway. There are railroad tracks and a concrete barrier that you can balance on and get some great head on shots. In conclusion, if you're going spotting at either EWR or PHL in the near future, READING THIS POST IS A MUST! I'M YOUR GUY FOR EWR/PHL SPOTTING!

    HEAD ON STANDING UNDER FINAL APP COURSE FOR 27L:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14662119128/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14662093250/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14846331484/

    SHOOTING STRAIGHT DOWN RWY35 THROUGH THE FENCE:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14868621763/

    STANDING NEXT TO FENCE BEFORE 35:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14845726831/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14846351264/

    RIGHT NEXT TO THE FENCE NEAR 27L:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14662164878/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...n/photostream/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14662110290/

    KEWR AIRIS DRIVE:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14748951856/

    KEWR AIRIS DR THROUGH FENCE:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14266553101/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/124908...4/14269874925/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlauc1999 View Post
    I have concluded that there are two great places to slip the PAPD and NYPD.
    NYPD is working in Newark now?

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    He is referring to Newark York Police Department

    In all seriousness, I applaud you for having the balls to take chances with PAPD and Elizabeth PD. Second, the views of the touchdowns are insane... great vantage point. I am not sure if I would have the guts to hang out there.
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    Wow! This is terrific news! Everyone head to EWR! We got a guy now!

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    Where is EWR ?!?!!
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    Curious, you mention that you're able to get Sunset shots from IKEA parking lot of 4R arrivals (or departures, or 22 departures for that matter). Not sure how this can be as the sun would be in your face, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzalu View Post
    Tlauc1999

    Curious, you mention that you're able to get Sunset shots from IKEA parking lot of 4R arrivals (or departures, or 22 departures for that matter). Not sure how this can be as the sun would be in your face, no?
    One day the sun was peering out from inside some clouds. The other day the airplanes blocked the sun and it kind of looked like an eclipse. If you shoot on an angle the sun can't do you much harm

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    Oh gotcha, thanks ... didn't think about the plane blocking the sun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlauc1999 View Post
    I also went to PHL for the first time and while it was a haul it was certainly worth it. Security there is almost non-existent patrolling the fenceline and although I don't recommend it, I got some few quality shots of touchdown smoke and a head on view down runway 35. We drove along Hog Island Road as they were running the 27's and 35 for the small guys. As long as you park your car on the other side of the road and cross the street to get to the fence you're all good. We stayed in the car and waited for the sound of a big jet coming then dashed across the road and setup to take pictures. A cop drove by a couple times but didn't really pay us any mind. I can't say all of them are like that but going in a group certainly helps. Right under the final approach course for 27L there is a road entrance to pull into and park. Park before it on the side away from the runway. There are railroad tracks and a concrete barrier that you can balance on and get some great head on shots. In conclusion, if you're going spotting at either EWR or PHL in the near future, READING THIS POST IS A MUST! I'M YOUR GUY FOR EWR/PHL SPOTTING!
    Regarding PHL,

    There's no real dedicated areas for 27L arrivals - I've used my spots for 27R arrivals to get stuff arriving on 27L but they will only land on 27L if 27R is closed.

    While you are good with parking on the other side of the road, I would not recommend hanging alongside the fence for photos. It's a bit risky and you may get asked to leave. Philadelphia Police constantly patrol Hog Island Road and most of them will wave at you. Most of the other spotters would try to get touchdown photos for any specials that come in.

    Be careful around Fort Mifflin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Holzinger View Post
    Regarding PHL,

    There's no real dedicated areas for 27L arrivals - I've used my spots for 27R arrivals to get stuff arriving on 27L but they will only land on 27L if 27R is closed.

    While you are good with parking on the other side of the road, I would not recommend hanging alongside the fence for photos. It's a bit risky and you may get asked to leave. Philadelphia Police constantly patrol Hog Island Road and most of them will wave at you. Most of the other spotters would try to get touchdown photos for any specials that come in.

    Be careful around Fort Mifflin...
    Just took a few shots through the fence. Like I said, we stayed in our cars and only went to the fence when we heard/saw something coming in. As for Fort Mifflin, there were a few other people parked in there just watching the planes so we decided to park there too

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    Just keep poking the bear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateo View Post
    Just keep poking the bear...
    That's what a fellow spotter from MIA - Jonathan - a very nice guy, told us to do:

    "MIA after 9/11 was same as in JFK now...Spotters there just keep coming, spotting...One day authorities just decided: maybe those guys aren't bad... That's how started all that security training programm @ MIA...."

    And he told me and Sergio: "that's what you guys should do - just keep coming, spotting and ALWAYS talk nice to security/authorities...and security/authorities finally will see you not as a threat but as a help to ensure airport security..."

    That's how things did change spotting @ MIA...
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    As another PHL guy who has been doing this for a little while, I would echo Steve's cautions to you. I have been approached there several times, even when parked on the other side of the road, even when 'just taking a few shots through the fence'. The cops there seem to be like the box of chocolate where you never know what you'll get...hell, we even had the coast guard come up to us last year because they wanted to make sure we weren't photographing the fuel farm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateo View Post
    Just keep poking the bear...
    Werent we down this road a few years ago with a young man and his adventures at EWR? Yup, keep poking........

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    From March 2013 to April 2014, I went to EWR every month and that has stopped. I used to go to the Airis Road parking lot quite often with a friend and have gotten kicked out of there every single time...you must have some luck ;)
    Airis Road is actually very good for departures off of 4L, especially sunset shots - here's one I took last year when I didn't have my tripod : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e9O...jO56zkwotthUiA
    For the 22L stuff from Airis, it's not bad, but you need to shoot through the fence- same for 29 arrivals.
    You can also get some nice shots through the fence of aircraft taxiing to departure onto 22R at the Airis Road spot.
    There are also some extreme close up taxi's of aircraft using full length 22R for takeoffs.

    And of course there is P6...a great spot but the security is pretty bad there too. I started avoiding that spot last November.

    And now, I avoid EWR in general. I now go to JFK which is much farther for me, but it's better - I don't have to deal with security anymore.

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