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    All I am saying is that I am in favor of registering. I'm just not talking about Aviation photography, but any photography you do. It is something I am considering doing in the near future. for me personally its something I have been looking into as I am now considered a professional as all my income comes from photography.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eric8669 View Post
    All I am saying is that I am in favor of registering. I'm just not talking about Aviation photography, but any photography you do. It is something I am considering doing in the near future. for me personally its something I have been looking into as I am now considered a professional as all my income comes from photography.
    Best of luck with it. Unfortunately most of this could be avoided by simply posting samples online instead of files with no watermark. If you do it properly it's not obtrusive but still has your name in huge letters across the center of the pic so it can't be photoshopped out and we should all support the Stop Online Piracy act which I do.
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    Watermarks do not prevent theft, and they are not photoshop-proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. View Post
    Watermarks do not prevent theft, and they are not photoshop-proof.
    If done properly and in the middle of the picture they are. Plus the skills needed to do the extensive cloning needed to try to get rid of it without the destroying the pic is too much and thieves will just go on to the next pic without a watermark or one with it on the bottom of the pic which is easily removed.

    Here is a good example. Give this a shot at removing and give us an accurate time it took to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIKV69 View Post
    If done properly and in the middle of the picture they are. Plus the skills needed to do the extensive cloning needed to try to get rid of it without the destroying the pic is too much and thieves will just go on to the next pic without a watermark or one with it on the bottom of the pic which is easily removed.

    Here is a good example. Give this a shot at removing and give us an accurate time it took to do.

    But putting a watermark across an image takes away from the viewing experience of the image. If you indeed use a watermark make it so it does not interfere with viewing the image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eric8669 View Post
    But putting a watermark across an image takes away from the viewing experience of the image. If you indeed use a watermark make it so it does not interfere with viewing the image.

    That defeats the purpose of the watermark. A watermark is there to protect the photographer. Not enhance the viewing of the people on the net. People that upload big enough files without a watermark through the subject are who is enabling piracy and honestly all the registering in the world won't help since most of the theft will go undetected. Serious professionals will always watermark in this fashion since the pic is merely a sample and the watermark in my example really doesn't interfere with the viewing of the subject. Or they just disable the scripts so the picture can't be downloaded to the person's HD by right clicking and saving. Still the best ways to protect your work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NIKV69 View Post
    That defeats the purpose of the watermark. A watermark is there to protect the photographer. Not enhance the viewing of the people on the net. People that upload big enough files without a watermark through the subject are who is enabling piracy and honestly all the registering in the world won't help since most of the theft will go undetected. Serious professionals will always watermark in this fashion since the pic is merely a sample and the watermark in my example really doesn't interfere with the viewing of the subject. Or they just disable the scripts so the picture can't be downloaded to the person's HD by right clicking and saving. Still the best ways to protect your work.


    Again Nick, I have to disagree, I follow a number of serious professionals who do not watermark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eric8669 View Post
    Again Nick, I have to disagree, I follow a number of serious professionals who do not watermark.
    This is what I wrote.

    Serious professionals will always watermark in this fashion since the pic is merely a sample and the watermark in my example really doesn't interfere with the viewing of the subject. Or they just disable the scripts so the picture can't be downloaded to the person's HD by right clicking and saving


    The professionals that you follow. Are you able to right click and save the image?
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    I have no idea, I've never tried.

    instead of a watermark, try embedding your information in the metadata. I find the watermarked image you posted very distracting actually.
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    I find the watermarked image you posted very distracting actually.
    Only because you need to argue the point with me. In reality it doesn't really take away from the subject and people viewing that shot get the full effect of the subject and realize the photographer has skills. Which is what he is looking for while protecting himself.




    instead of a watermark, try embedding your information in the metadata.
    Sure, at the end of the day things like this, and other thing like

    1. Doing what Sam Chui does. Upload no bigger than 1000 pixels and at a resolution that nothing can be done with the stolen photo other than web viewage since anet is ground zero for theft and one needs to only pay FC membership to circumvent the watermark.

    2. Watermark it properly

    3. Disable scripts and other such things preventing downloading pic from page to HD.

    Other than that our photos will get stolen, and most (I would venture to say at least half) will never even be detected by us. If you upload big enough files. Unfortunately with web and social media it's reality now.
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    Watermarks take away from the integrity of the image. It's a shame that photographer's need to sacrifice their work because of rampant theft. THE TERRORISTS ARE WINNING! haha
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    Just make all your images creative commons, then you don't have to worry. I know a number of professionals that do this too.
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    Watermarks take away from the integrity of the image. It's a shame that photographer's need to sacrifice their work because of rampant theft. THE TERRORISTS ARE WINNING! haha
    Basically, the digital revolution had a dark side. Which is why I support the SOPA. I think it will send a message and make a difference. Eric, Phil. Do you support it?
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    based on the internet radio podcast I have listened to on this subject, as of right now I do not support SOPA. I have to look at some more information and I'll get back to you.
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    I do not support it at this time because my research (I could be wrong) indicates that a site can be shut down within hours of a mere claim of infringement...which is not adequate due process in my mind.
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