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    Smoke On Board

    Maybe it's just me but there sure seems to be alot of these reports lately from commercial flights. I'd like to hear from some of our airline folks here as to what they may know is the cause or can offer an educated speculation. Thanks
    Gene

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    I will give it a try.... usually when something gets too hot it will start to melt, when it gets even hotter it will begin to give a foul smelling odor as it sheds solid particles in the air.....Oh, I am sorry, you said educated speculation! Some will say Kapton wiring will play lots of blame here, but when you deal with millions of wires you will run into risk of shorts due to chafing, flexing that breaks the safety insulation shielding. I did like my first reason best. It tells the story but does not lay blame.

    Here is some more info on Kapton wiring
    http://www.vision.net.au/~apaterson/...on_mangold.htm
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    Gee thanks Derf, LOL. It just seems to be happening so much anymore.

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    Happening so much more or or being reported more by bored media jackals? I'm very certain it's the latter. Just like all or Qantas planes are suddenly having problems every few days.

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    There were two incidents of smoke on board at Newark yesterday:
    http://avherald.com/h?article=436d9915&opt=4097
    http://avherald.com/h?article=436d1960&opt=4097

    The crew told passengers they suspected the smoke was related to the de-icing procedure performed before takeoff.
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    This also happens more during the winter as snow, sleet and ice enter the plane during servicing...the snow melts gets into some wiring and bam...you have a short and smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirtrafficController View Post
    The crew told passengers they suspected the smoke was related to the de-icing procedure performed before takeoff.
    This happens when the de-ice crew accidentally shoots some of the fluid into the APU inlet. Crews are supposed to turn off the APU when deicing, and close the inlet, but some guys start hitting the aircraft a little too soon and the Glycol hitting the hot APU generates smoke and a wonderful smell. Turn on the recycled air and you have reports of smoke in the cabin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darlyn View Post
    Happening so much more or or being reported more by bored media jackals? I'm very certain it's the latter. Just like all or Qantas planes are suddenly having problems every few days.
    You mean "It's harder to hide problems when they happen" right?

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