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    United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... l?mod=e2tw
    Continental Airlines Inc. and UAL Corp.'s United Airlines are expected to announce Monday that they are merging to form the world's largest airline by traffic, people familiar with the matter said.

    The United board is meeting Friday, while Continental's board is meeting Friday and Sunday to discuss the deal, these people said.

    These people cautioned that negotiations could fall apart at the last minute as they did in 2008, when Continental backed away. But after a hiccup over pricing the transaction, the talks appear to be on track, they said.
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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Sigh. Another airline lost. Who will be emerging from this? UA or CO? If its UA I need to get some CO shots before they are gone. Back away CO back away.
    Edit: Nvm there going to stick with the UA if agreed on. Use rwy 4 LGA so I can have range.

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    Well even as it is expected I will surely miss Continental and there colors when gone. I truely hope that Tilton is not going to be the remaining manager of the company or another great airline will die. It will be cool to see 767-200's in United NC's though. I spent about a year in the service of Continental down in SRQ and it was a great company. They took care of everyone from the lav truck to the 4 striper's in the left seat. I used to take for granted non reving on Continental into IAH, EWR and seasonally to CLE and seeing all the globe tails. :(
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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by hiss srq
    Well even as it is expected I will surely miss Continental and there colors when gone. I truely hope that Tilton is not going to be the remaining manager of the company or another great airline will die. It will be cool to see 767-200's in United NC's though. I spent about a year in the service of Continental down in SRQ and it was a great company. They took care of everyone from the lav truck to the 4 striper's in the left seat. I used to take for granted non reving on Continental into IAH, EWR and seasonally to CLE and seeing all the globe tails. :(
    Nice a triple post :borat: Yea continental has a nice scheme that will be missed. I might have an old photo somewhere not sure....

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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    I'm very disappointed to learn that the CO brand would be the one disappearing: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36857857/ns ... _business/

    I just don't get it. United is the failing brand. I simply don't think they deserve it, regardless of their history.
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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Well I don't think CO would even consider this move unless they thought it would be beneficial to them long run. As for the CO brand I would hate to see it go it's one of my favorite carriers but the average traveler doesn't care what your name is. They care about can you get them where they need to go on time and for as cheaply as possible. They don't even look at the colors on the plane. We are the only people that do that and we are in the minority.
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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D.
    I'm very disappointed to learn that the CO brand would be the one disappearing: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36857857/ns ... _business/

    I just don't get it. United is the failing brand. I simply don't think they deserve it, regardless of their history.
    Agreed. United has scalled back alot after 9/11. Many ppl prefer to fly somewhere else then UAL.... including me. I was around them at T7 for almost a year and most of them dont look too good. Those flights are usually delayed. Any which way you put it UAL isnt reliable.

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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Nick UA ranks above the highest in on time perfromance, in fact they beat CO, AA, DL and US. I know yor eyes must be good but I doubt you can see all their arrivals from T7. It would do you well to research some of your claims before you make them.

    http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/reports/ ... ilATCR.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by NIKV69
    Nick UA ranks above the highest in on time perfromance, in fact they beat CO, AA, DL and US. I know yor eyes must be good but I doubt you can see all their arrivals from T7. It would do you well to research some of your claims before you make them.

    http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/reports/ ... ilATCR.pdf
    I saw alot of them and more then half the time they were delayed. Recently I looked up flights on them and I dont think a 37% on time raiting is considered good in the least bit. That was for one specific flight but it gives you a good picture.

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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Performance or not, the company was/is tanking. It's easy to have on-time performance when you cut so many of your flights nand have only a portion of the operation you once had.

    I'm disappointed that I'll continue to see the UA brand flying.
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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D.
    Performance or not, the company was/is tanking. It's easy to have on-time performance when you cut so many of your flights nand have only a portion of the operation you once had.

    I'm disappointed that I'll continue to see the UA brand flying.
    UA will get all these a/c and flights and they will cut a good portion of them. The company is tanking and the only thing that will change is that they are taking CO with them, as well as the jobs that CO employees currently have.

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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by NLovis
    UA will get all these a/c and flights and they will cut a good portion of them. The company is tanking and the only thing that will change is that they are taking CO with them, as well as the jobs that CO employees currently have.
    They don't have many overlapping routes so not too much will be cut other than administrative staff in Houston.
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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D.
    I'm very disappointed to learn that the CO brand would be the one disappearing: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36857857/ns ... _business/

    I just don't get it. United is the failing brand. I simply don't think they deserve it, regardless of their history.
    United Airlines is the name brand in the international market, keeping the United name make business sense,,,
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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    Performance or not, the company was/is tanking. It's easy to have on-time performance when you cut so many of your flights nand have only a portion of the operation you once had.
    Phil what do you suggest a company does when business gets cut drastically? Your telling me keep planes, employees etc and just sit around with the same overhead? Of course you cut back. A business' objective it make a profit and to adjust to market conditions. It wasn't UA's fault the dot com era ended, or we got attacked on 9/11, fuel prices spiking. These were all things that hurt everyone. They did what any airline would do and cut back, it sucks people have to be laid off and pensions cut but that's the business world. You seem to be looking at this from a personal thing. It's not personal. It's strictly business. United has come a long way from Bankruptcy and is far from "tanking" which I don't get. I would love to see some examples but from the things I have read, this Star alliance merger will be a success in the long term.

    UA will get all these a/c and flights and they will cut a good portion of them. The company is tanking and the only thing that will change is that they are taking CO with them, as well as the jobs that CO employees currently have.
    What do you base this on? You sure seem to be just pulling this stuff out of a hat. I don't understand what tanking means. If you could post some examples?

    They don't have many overlapping routes so not too much will be cut other than administrative staff in Houston.
    Exactly
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    Re: United, Continental Expected to Announce Merger Monday

    [quote=Midnight Mike]
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D.":moemhtjc]I'm very disappointed to learn that the CO brand would be the one disappearing: [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36857857/ns/business-us_business/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36857857/ns ... _business/[/url]

    I just don't get it. United is the failing brand. I simply don't think they deserve it, regardless of their history.
    United Airlines is the name brand in the international market, keeping the United name make business sense,,,[/quote:moemhtjc]

    Mike I'm not sure that's correct... CO has a much better name then UAL in all markets they serve. UAL has a Pacific network that CO doesn't have and that's the only place their name might be better known then CO. UAL does not have a positive name with frequent travelers like myself. CO's name and service is synonymous with good service and their product is just much better.

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