Thunderbirds at Coney island.

[Matt Molnar]

Why do they need so much runway?

[Derf]

Why do they need so much runway?

Because they are not the NAVY! :borat:

[Derf]

Why do they need so much runway?

seroiusly....what happends if it overruns....can you imagine that eye candy on ANET? The are
the best of the best (next to the Blue Angels of course) and can not afford an incident....they
put down the arresting wire, not because the need it but becuase they need to make sure
there is not an overrun. The worst thing in recient times was



Not the image they want you to see.... Pilot error makes that issue even worse.
Strict requirements for saftey of aircrew and aircraft is essential with any press flights as well.
You will not see them laying down arresting gear for any F-18 at Farmingdale...but when the
Blues are in town we get to see a treat!

[hiss srq]

Why do they need so much runway?

Landing roll on the Viper is pretty long. It has pretty high ref speeds if I am not mistaken. So you need all the rollout distance you can get.

[gettysburgerrn]

Wow I never knew that they had to install arresting gear at republic. How much room does the Hornet need to land versus a thunderbirds f-16.

ken :mrgreen:

[moose135]

Both will use about the same amount of runway, if similarly configured. I've read that minimum take off distance is under 2,000' for both, and minimum landing distance is around 3,000'. They do have a Command-required 7,000' minimum runway requirement, but can get a waiver. The arresting gear is only for an emergency, like hydraulic or brake failure, since they don't have a big, long runway to roll out on.

[gettysburgerrn]

Do the Blue angels and Thunderbirds ever perform together? (I mean in the same airshow...)

Ken :mrgreen:

[moose135]

That's rare, Ken. Since their stated purpose is to act as a recruiting and promotional tool, they don't gain much by having them perform at the same show, but there are some exceptions. In June 2008, the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels joined the Snowbirds and Red Arrows in an airshow in Quebec, to celebrate that city's 400th anniversary. There have been a few airshows in the states where they have both performed as well - although I can't find it now, I seem to remember they both performed at Andrews AFB a few years ago during the JSOH show.

[moose135]

In addition to the Thunderbirds, the Army Golden Knights are also scheduled to appear. And checking out the Navy list of "Eligible Events", Coney Island is also on the list. There are no performers included on that list, and it's not a guarantee that an aircraft will be available, but it does mean they are authorized to appear there.

[Big Tim #70]

They did AC together a few years ago didn't they?

[njgtr82]

They did AC together a few years ago didn't they?

Yes

[Nick]

Even on a long runway, Navy jets get slammed onto the pavement. Land a USAF fighter like that and someone's doing some extra inspections.

[cancidas]

Even on a long runway, Navy jets get slammed onto the pavement. Land a USAF fighter like that and someone's doing some extra inspections.

is that kind of a landing considered Code2 or Code3?

[Derf]

Even on a long runway, Navy jets get slammed onto the pavement. Land a USAF fighter like that and someone's doing some extra inspections.

They do not chage their landing angle or the fact that they fly into the runway just because they are not landing on the boat. They are told to land one way only. That is whey way they land on a boat, or the airport.

The airplane is made to land that way....plus, it just looks cooler than the airforce's flair! (spelt wrong, I KNOW!)




(this is the direction every Chickenhawk thread should take....LOTS OF BLUES)

[gettysburgerrn]

Cool picture especially of the one over the parkway...(the southern state parkway I imagine...)

ken