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    Nice. They gave us a photo op this year.

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    Re: Jones Beach Airshow 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by NLovis
    Nice. They gave us a photo op this year.
    We have been doing it for the last three years...but space is very limited to please make
    sure that your submissions count. :borat:
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    Quote Originally Posted by NLovis
    Nice. They gave us a photo op this year.
    We have been doing it for the last three years...but space is very limited to please make
    sure that your submissions count. :borat:
    Ah I never knew. So care to explain what you mean to submissions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLovis
    Ah I never knew. So care to explain what you mean to submissions?
    Read the details in Fred's post - you don't just show up for this one, you have to be selected based on your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLovis
    Ah I never knew. So care to explain what you mean to submissions?
    Read the details in Fred's post - you don't just show up for this one, you have to be selected based on your work.
    AKA .. common folk with decent cameras are not welcome. This really annoys me.

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    Or just say you are with Viper East. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    Re: Jones Beach Airshow 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by puckstopper55
    AKA .. common folk with decent cameras are not welcome. This really annoys me.
    What do you consider a "decent camera"?

    History Under the Stars is a special event, something the museum and its volunteers go out of their way to make happen. As much as we would like to invite everyone, safety, logistics, and operational considerations force us to limit participants. There are a few different ways we could have done that - we could take the first 12 who respond, we could pull names out of a hat or Fred and I could select all our friends - of course that would still leave us another 10 spots to fill

    Instead, to make this fair and equitable, and to keep with the special nature of the evening, we are asking potential participants to show a sample of their work, and to provide a list of where that work is displayed (in print, on a personal website, on JP.net or A.net, etc.) There are a few reasons for this. With a limited number of spots available, we want to offer them to photographers who have some level of experience, especially with night photography. As much as I like to talk about photography and help new photographers, this can't be a night to learn about your camera or how to take night photos - with the limited schedule we just don't have time for that. Also, the museum is gracious enough to allow us out on their ramp after hours, with volunteers who have been working 10 to 12 hours at that point - and at no charge. In exchange, they ask that we use the event to help promote the museum, hence the request for information about where your photos appear.

    You may be put off by Fred's note of "no point and shoot cameras", and maybe that isn't the best way to phrase it, but too often "P&S" means "snapshots". If you have high quality work from a point and shoot, especially night photos, by all means send us a link to your work and let us see it. You will be evaluated on the quality of your work and your level of visibility.

    And so you don't think I'm all talk, here are my galleries from the past three years...
    2007 History Under the Stars:


    2008 History Under the Stars:


    2009 History Under the Stars:


    And my American Airpower Museum galleries I also have work on both Airliners.net and JetPhotos.net, and have posted photos from the prior events (as well as other museum events) on numerous other forums.

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    Re: Jones Beach Airshow 2010

    Puckstopper has opened a can of worms here but maybe something positive can come of this. I can't help but notice that some of the participants of the last 3 years or so could step aside so other deserving photogs could get a crack at this very special once in a lifetime thing. I made a half hearted attempt last year to do this but was chosen and attended. This year I am not entering my name for consideration and I would think that a few others that have been chosen every year and enjoyed a lot of great shots of those same warbirds would do the same. In fact I am going to have a dialogue with Fred and hope he will allow me to make some suggestions for other photogs that more than deserve this special evening. If I am free and in NY I would love to attend the dinner and catch up with some of you but I won't be brining my camera. The spotting Gods have been more than generous to me and many of others here. It's time to give back to the hobby. I hope some of you step up.
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    I would love to go retro on them. MEaning take my old film camera and get some shots. I feel it isnt a complete thing unless you got some old planes with a camera of the time. Or in this case tech of the time. I think it would look great. Anybody else agree? Though i'm sad to say my work is probably not qualifient :(

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    Moose said it better than I ever could,

    If you take great artsy night shots with a point and shoot you could be
    accepted. It is more the quality of work. If you think your work is that
    good there is nothing stopping you from entering with some night shots,
    The one thing I learned very quick is there is always an exception to
    every rule. But with point and shoot cameras there generally not enough
    light for this type of equipment as I understand because I have used
    point and shoot and cameras limited with 16 seconds of exposure.

    For this event we will only invite 6 previously accepted entries and 6
    new in order to keep it going. If I wanted, I could just call 10 of my
    friends and take them out on the ramp as I could be the escort. With
    this event we are trying to make it available to those who do not have
    access I do, We are trying..... This is the best we can do


    Quote Originally Posted by NLovis
    I would love to go retro on them. MEaning take my old film camera and get some shots. I feel it isnt a complete thing unless you got some old planes with a camera of the time. Or in this case tech of the time. I think it would look great. Anybody else agree? Though i'm sad to say my work is probably not qualifient :(
    Nothing wrong with that! I love retro
    Are you going to try?
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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    Re: Jones Beach Airshow 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by NIKV69
    Puckstopper has opened a can of worms here but maybe something positive can come of this. I can't help but notice that some of the participants of the last 3 years or so could step aside so other deserving photogs could get a crack at this very special once in a lifetime thing. I made a half hearted attempt last year to do this but was chosen and attended. This year I am not entering my name for consideration and I would think that a few others that have been chosen every year and enjoyed a lot of great shots of those same warbirds would do the same. In fact I am going to have a dialogue with Fred and hope he will allow me to make some suggestions for other photogs that more than deserve this special evening. If I am free and in NY I would love to attend the dinner and catch up with some of you but I won't be brining my camera. The spotting Gods have been more than generous to me and many of others here. It's time to give back to the hobby. I hope some of you step up.
    I had the exact same thoughts. For you who have not yet attended and want to submit, History Under the Stars is to me, the most serene and one of the most awesome aviation photography experience I've ever had. The airfield is so quiet, and you're so close to these old ships, you can feel the history in them. For that evening, you almost become one with them, and I encourage everyone to try to attend at least once. Fred, and the good folks at the AAM put a real boatload of work into this event and it shows. You won't regret one second of it. So, on that note, count me in for dinner too and hopefully, I'll see you for the nighttime shootout next year!
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    Re: Jones Beach Airshow 2010

    I had the exact same thoughts. For you who have not yet attended and want to submit, History Under the Stars is to me, the most serene and one of the most awesome aviation photography experience I've ever had. The airfield is so quiet, and you're so close to these old ships, you can feel the history in them. For that evening, you almost become one with them, and I encourage everyone to try to attend at least once. Fred, and the good folks at the AAM put a real boatload of work into this event and it shows. You won't regret one second of it. So, on that note, count me in for dinner too and hopefully, I'll see you for the nighttime shootout next year!
    Way to go Kenny! I know what you mean. When Sentimental Journey was at IFP I was able to go in her and around her anytime I wanted. Sometimes it was with people around and one night myself and Dave Budd did a sunset night shoot with her. We were the only two people on the whole airfield. Even though she didn't see combat you got the feeling while standing inside her where the waist gunners did of that these planes mean to us and our freedom. I also felt how blessed I was to be able to be in the media flight and to hear her and watch those engines start. Not many spotters get these chances to do this and if my staying out means a new spotter can get near Yankee Lady I felt I have given a little back. Who else is going to make this sacrifice?
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    Re: Jones Beach Airshow 2010

    Something about a B-17 ride is Magical



    You can read the story of my ride here...WHAT A PRESENT!
    http://www.fromtheflightdeck.com/Sto...ng17/FMb17.htm
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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    Re: Jones Beach Airshow 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Derf
    Moose said it better than I ever could,

    If you take great artsy night shots with a point and shoot you could be
    accepted. It is more the quality of work. If you think your work is that
    good there is nothing stopping you from entering with some night shots,
    The one thing I learned very quick is there is always an exception to
    every rule. But with point and shoot cameras there generally not enough
    light for this type of equipment as I understand because I have used
    point and shoot and cameras limited with 16 seconds of exposure.

    For this event we will only invite 6 previously accepted entries and 6
    new in order to keep it going. If I wanted, I could just call 10 of my
    friends and take them out on the ramp as I could be the escort. With
    this event we are trying to make it available to those who do not have
    access I do, We are trying..... This is the best we can do


    Quote Originally Posted by NLovis
    I would love to go retro on them. MEaning take my old film camera and get some shots. I feel it isnt a complete thing unless you got some old planes with a camera of the time. Or in this case tech of the time. I think it would look great. Anybody else agree? Though i'm sad to say my work is probably not qualifient :(
    Nothing wrong with that! I love retro
    Are you going to try?
    Hell yea. Just tell me what to do :D

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    Re: Jones Beach Airshow 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by NLovis
    Hell yea. Just tell me what to do :D
    Go to this thread: http://www.nycaviation.com/forum/vie...p?f=26&t=18808
    Read and follow the directions in Fred's announcement...

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