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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by cancidas
    wow, pretty embarasing. to have air medical assets and not have them available 24/7 is downright foolish.
    It's a question of budget and usage. If they get one or two calls a month at 2am, it's probably better to call on a neighboring service than staff up all night, every night when they don't get much use.

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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by moose135
    Quote Originally Posted by cancidas
    wow, pretty embarasing. to have air medical assets and not have them available 24/7 is downright foolish.
    It's a question of budget and usage. If they get one or two calls a month at 2am, it's probably better to call on a neighboring service than staff up all night, every night when they don't get much use.
    Yup, especially In Nassau the money is probably the big issue. And with medevacs the time to hospitals especially in the late hours
    wouldnt be so bad. Also we have the PD EAB where Suffolk has a much bigger response area, a lot of it what you might call "rural" and
    medical response is (I believe) pretty much the vollies though some areas do have paid responders.

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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by moose135
    It's a question of budget and usage. If they get one or two calls a month at 2am, it's probably better to call on a neighboring service than staff up all night, every night when they don't get much use.
    i completely understand that, but it's still foolish that those in charge would let it be that the county doesn't have medical air assets at night because they don't want to pay for it. i'm sure that if it was some assemblyman's kid that got hurt bad in a motorcycle accident he's want to get him to a hospital ASAP. just show what government's priorities are....
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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by fk6065
    I believe the Coast Guard helo that eventually arrived was from Atlantic City.
    I have always thought about that when they closed the air station in NYC. I guess there are enough air assets to cover but so much for the golden hour, huh?

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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    You also have to remember, Nassau and Suffolk are two different worlds when it comes to patient transport, especially for trauma victims. Nassau has far more trauma centers (NUMC, Winthrop, NSUH/Manhasset) than Suffolk (Stony Brook) so in Nassau, you have more options and can usually get to trauma centers faster than in Suffolk by ground, leading Suffolk to have a round the clock air operation while Nassau does not.
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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by DHG750R
    I have always thought about that when they closed the air station in NYC. I guess there are enough air assets to cover but so much for the golden hour, huh?
    At some point I guess the feds decided protecting the coast is up to the individual states. There are now only 18 air stations covering 6000 miles of coastline (not counting Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico or the Great Lakes).
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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    Quote Originally Posted by DHG750R
    I have always thought about that when they closed the air station in NYC. I guess there are enough air assets to cover but so much for the golden hour, huh?
    At some point I guess the feds decided protecting the coast is up to the individual states. There are now only 18 air stations covering 6000 miles of coastline (not counting Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico or the Great Lakes).
    With us its either the HH-60s from Cape Cod or the HH-65s from Atlantic City. Thankfully NYPD Aviation has a dedicated 24 hour Air/Sea
    Rescue program that definitely takes up the slack from the closing of Air Station Brooklyn.
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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    Quote Originally Posted by engine46
    You also have to remember, Nassau and Suffolk are two different worlds when it comes to patient transport, especially for trauma victims. Nassau has far more trauma centers (NUMC, Winthrop, NSUH/Manhasset) than Suffolk (Stony Brook) so in Nassau, you have more options and can usually get to trauma centers faster than in Suffolk by ground, leading Suffolk to have a round the clock air operation while Nassau does not.

    Suffolk also has Huntington Hospital, Good Samaritan, Southside, and Brookhaven Hospitals as designated "Area Trauma Centers." They aren't as well equipped and staffed as the "Regional, or Level 1 Trauma Centers" mentioned in the quote above, but they do have the required services and specialists on staff 24/7. They just may not be able to handle multiple major trauma cases at one time.
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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    Matt, in Nassau County you never more than five minutes to a hospital and max twenty to a trauma center. Its a waste of money to pay people the rediculous wages Nassau cops in the aviation department to A) sit around watching comedy channel eating doughnuts or B)piss jet A that does not need to be used at that time. On another note, NCPD frequently goes 24 hours during the summer during peak times when all yuppies from the city come to Long Beach etc..
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    Re: Mutual Aid NYPD In Nassau County for Boat Crash

    [quote="hiss srq"]Matt, in Nassau County you never more than five minutes to a hospital and max twenty to a trauma center.

    Well remember that air medical is not their only function.

    > Its a waste of money to pay people the rediculous wages Nassau cops in the aviation department to A) sit around watching comedy channel eating doughnuts

    Dunkin Donuts, Tony Horton or Krispy Kreme? Try not to worry about what other people make. If they make good money. good for them. As a police officer and an airborne officer they go to work everyday with the possibilty of not coming home to their families.
    I have no problem with them being paid accordingly.

    PS - my father was an NYPD officer for over 31 years so you can see where my sentiment lies. :)

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