Props with banners flying near the beach

**AirtrafficController** · 2009-08-16, 10:16 PM

I was at Point Pleasant, NJ this Saturday and watched many Piper Cubs carrying banners up and down the shoreline like a two way road. My questions is how do they take-off and land with the banners? Is the banner curled up then released after take-off and is the banner released over the field before landing? Feedback will be appreciated.

**moose135** · 2009-08-16, 10:23 PM

The banner is laid out on the ground, with the tow rope supported in the air. The aircraft makes a low pass and uses a hook to grab the rope and pull the banner into the air. They will release the banner over the airfield when done. Here's a YouTube video showing a banner pickup:

**AirtrafficController** · 2009-08-16, 10:55 PM

Thanks Moose for the answer and video! :borat:

**Big Tim #70** · 2009-08-17, 07:49 AM

I used to be friends with a guy who flew one of those in California. Pretty decent scratch but it's a very dangerous job.

Where do they do the drops & pick-ups around here?

**coachrowsey** · 2009-08-17, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by AirtrafficController

Thanks Moose for the answer and video! :borat:

Thanks also. I've always wondered about that.

**lijk604** · 2009-08-17, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Big Tim #70

I used to be friends with a guy who flew one of those in California. Pretty decent scratch but it's a very dangerous job.

Where do they do the drops & pick-ups around here?

I've heard Brookhaven...but cannot confirm.

**cancidas** · 2009-08-17, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by lijk604

I've heard Brookhaven...but cannot confirm.

i can confirm, they're usually laid out in the grass along Rwy 6/24

**flyboy 28** · 2009-08-17, 05:43 PM

There's an op out of Central Jersey Regional down in Manville. Great group of guys, and they treated us with a little airshow a few weeks ago.

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I can't tell you the name of the company, though easily seachable. What they pulled wasn't exactly FAR approved.

In fact, the video Moose posted is the same company at 47N.

**Mateo** · 2009-08-17, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by flyboy 28

Central Jersey Regional down in Manville. Great group of guys

KUPPER! The place is called KUPPER.

**njgtr82** · 2009-08-17, 10:45 PM

They also do alot of banner tow ops out of N12(Lakewood) and BLM down the shore

**flyboy 28** · 2009-08-18, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Mateo

Originally Posted by flyboy 28

Central Jersey Regional down in Manville. Great group of guys

KUPPER! The place is called KUPPER.

Was.

The old-timers still say "Kupper traffic" on the unicom occasionally.

**NYARTCCFAN** · 2009-08-18, 09:50 AM

I remember every summer laying on the beach at Seaside Heights and seeing 10-15 of these flying up and down the shoreline. Even saw one of the planes that was found to have run out of fuel crash into Barnegat Bay.