We are still in shock here. It's INSANE and the only thing that makes sense it that its was some insane suicide trip. The conference just held live on TV notes alcohol in her system AND still in her stomach as well as recent pot. And the family who saw her prior to leaving states all was well.
Lastly, an employee at a McD's along the way "declined" to remark on her wellbeing at the encounter.
Very suspect situation and terribly sad for this family on a whole other level.
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Wow, I take that back. It MUST have been a suicidal run:
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suff ... -1.1347605
Diane Schuler consumed about 10 alcoholic drinks and smoked marijuana 15 minutes to an hour before she drove the wrong way down the Taconic State Parkway last week, killing eight people, authorities said Tuesday.
Schuler, 36, of West Babylon, had a 0.19 blood-alcohol content level and significant levels of THC, the chemical found in marijuana, in her system, authorities said. About six grams of alcohol was still in her stomach, said Elizabeth Spratt of the Westchester County Laboratory, which conducted tests on Schuler's body fluids.
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I did see one Trooper at an exit but I doubt thats gonna make a difference, they really need to do something.Originally Posted by NIKV69
As far as that women: if you want to take your life thats fine by me but DO NOT take innocent lives.
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Not only that but she was seen driving like a lunatic before the crash. She sounds like the typical aggresive driver you see on our roads. Heavy foot, cutting off, tailgating mix that with substances and one wrong move and you have a disaster. In fact looking at a lot of vehicle crashes lately or over the past years driving too fast for conditions kills many. We just had one on the Wantaugh, we had a son and father killed on a watercraft. If you are doing the speed limit none of this happens. You won't lose control and if you crash at 55 you stand a much better chance of surviving but once you get in excess speed forget it. The media really just forgets this when they rush to euoligize this people and try to tug at our heart strings at the loss but they forget to tell us that this is so avoidable and that is the real tragedy here, that and the kids in the vehicle who are not driving who have no way to get out of that situation. Such needless loss.
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driving like a loon, well, 10 swings of vodka might do it.
Its a real buzz topic here. Whats the back story? Hows does this person, portrayed by people that knew her as an excellent mom, take such a cataclysmic fall from grace?
What's deplorable about News 12 is that they went right back to the neighborhood, seeking comments from the neighbors within an hour of the breaking news.
What drives a persona over the edge to decide to kill herself and her brother's kid's? Was her husband involved with the sister-in-law? Was she drugged and now is being framed to look the villain? Raises so many questions.
May God be with that family.
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Actually both alcohol and pot are depressants and wouldn't cause a normal driver to become aggresive but if the suicidal thing is true it would explain a lot. I mean even if she was into pot and liquor why ingest so much so early in the morning with her kids? Also could explain the wrong way entrance into the parkway and hitting a car head on. I mean even if you mistakenly enter the wrong way in broad daylight you would see oncoming traffic no? Something is very weird here. We may never know.driving like a loon, well, 10 swings of vodka might do it.
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Nick, it seems as though you're trying to apply rational thought to a woman, suicidal or not, was REALLY effin drunk. It's not that she was a crazy driver...she was a drunk one. It's not that she missed a "wrong way" sign, all of that is now explained in that she downed a bottle of vodka while driving. Signs, broad daylight, oncoming traffic...all booze.
The question left is, as Mario said, what led to her to drink like that?
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Phil the fact she was a crazy driver does play into this. Firstly I disagree with the suicidal theory. I don't think she would have taken the kids or someone else (other vehicle) with her. Also if someone is trying to kill herself why smoke pot as well? I know she wasn't acting very rational but someone contemplating ending her life wouldn't do it on the way back from a camping trip. Also your trying to say that a person that usually drives passively will turn agressive when drunk? I don't find this to be true, if anything someone over the legal limit will drive more passively. At this point all I can infer is she was loaded on both substances and missed taking the right onramp. Before this she was observed driving (most likely in her normal driving habit) very aggressively. Without any further "concrete evidence" I feel this may have led to her to take the wrong ramp and her lack of having her wits about her got up to a high rate of speed and didn't see the oncoming vehicle till it was too late. Yes it's true the fact she was tanked is going to be the major factor but I doubt it was suicide. Even though it may explain a lot.Nick, it seems as though you're trying to apply rational thought to a woman, suicidal or not, was REALLY effin drunk. It's not that she was a crazy driver...she was a drunk one. It's not that she missed a "wrong way" sign, all of that is now explained in that she downed a bottle of vodka while driving. Signs, broad daylight, oncoming traffic...all booze.
The question left is, as Mario said, what led to her to drink like that?
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Nick, suicide is an act of cowardice. For example, building/bridge jumpers will remove their glasses before they jump so their vision is distorted during the plummet, so being drunk AND high might have given her enough of a reality distortion to kill herself. This is one of those things which we will never know the full story behind the events that transpired. So very tragic and unnecessary.
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True, one needs to look at the Garden City man who pulled the same scheme Madoff did and was on the verge of getting caught and killed his daughters and wife by knife but I am still doubtful this Taconic tragedy is suicide as of now. I would love to hear more of what the police know. Maybe a fight with her husband that morning or something along those lines etc. I sure would love to hear that cell phone conversation they had shortly before the crash. Maybe things will come out in time.Nick, suicide is an act of cowardice. For example, building/bridge jumpers will remove their glasses before they jump so their vision is distorted during the plummet, so being drunk AND high might have given her enough of a reality distortion to kill herself. This is one of those things which we will never know the full story behind the events that transpired. So very tragic and unnecessary
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Good point.alcohol and pot are depressants and wouldn't cause a normal driver to become aggresive
Well, Phil, in any case, you have to start with that and work from there.it seems as though you're trying to apply rational thought to a woman
Also true, UNLESS she had some ridiculous axe to grind vs the brother or sis in law. It was her kids plus her brother's.I don't think she would have taken the kids or someone else (other vehicle) with her.
Nick makes a point. Drunks are not typically aggressive. HOWEVER, its is FAR from a typical case. Truth is we are all floored. Its as mysterious as the Amish Schoolhouse killing. Was there ever an answer found?Phil the fact she was a crazy driver does play into this
I can totally believe that.Before this she was observed driving (most likely in her normal driving habit) very aggressively.
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there seems to be two assumptions here. One is that she was an aggressive driver BEFORE drinking...when there's no evidence that she's USUALLY an aggressive driver. I think the other thing to consider is that her driving might not have been "aggressive", but jsut "drunk" where she became heavy on the pedal from lack of awareness and drove erratic as opposed to aggressive.
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That is great phil but alcohol doesn't produce behavior it impairs behavior. Alcohol doesn't turn a normal careful driver into an aggressive one. It takes an aggresive driver (or any driver for that matter) deadly because alcohol slows our reaction and concentration time due to the depressant we have ingested. Also your erratic argument is contradicted by the many witnesses who called 911 to report she was tailgating, beeping at cars in front of her going slower than she was, straddling lanes and passing on the shoulder. All classic tactics used by aggressive drivers and not someone who was just heavy on the pedal from Vodka.there seems to be two assumptions here. One is that she was an aggressive driver BEFORE drinking...when there's no evidence that she's USUALLY an aggressive driver. I think the other thing to consider is that her driving might not have been "aggressive", but jsut "drunk" where she became heavy on the pedal from lack of awareness and drove erratic as opposed to aggressive.
From what we know from the "evidence" collected so far this seems to be a woman who usually drives aggressively and very fast who ingested a huge amount of depressants and who made a wrong turn and was driving so fast and couldn't react to the oncoming vehicle. Until we get a bit more evidence to suggest otherwise.
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This is common misperception about people who commit suicide. People assume that taking one's life is an easy event, it’s not. In most failed suicide cases the victim explains that they were planning the act for months. That they decided to take their life to avoid others in their life getting further hurt by the events that lead up to their decision. While this thought paten is flawed since their death will only bring added trauma, death is a onetime occurrence and as time passes people can move on with their life, even with this persons absence. Cowardice thought and action will not display the same planning and reason. Simply removing one's glasses to blur vision is not evidence of being a coward but an attempt to avoid fear and try to find peace in one's last moments Many professionals will argue that suicide is an act of courage or self sacrifice.Nick, suicide is an act of cowardice.
A better term to use in cases like this woman would be greed. Most murders that precede a suicide are done because the person who takes their life wants their family with them in the assumed after life.
Giving up on one's own life no matter the circumstances in the stead of working diligently to find a solution is a very far cry from courage or self sacrifice, and there are MANY loved ones left behind who can never fully move on. Time does not heal all wounds. The removing of the glasses was merely an example.
Agreed but still all we or anyone else can do is speculate at this point.
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