Time to update the 412s.....
http://www.shephard.co.uk/news/3014/bel ... -for-nypd/
Interesting that they arent THAT old.....
Aviation 12 (N412PD) is the oldest at 13 years and Aviation 14 (N414PD) is 10 years old.
N23FH is only 7 years old.
Time to update the 412s.....
http://www.shephard.co.uk/news/3014/bel ... -for-nypd/
Interesting that they arent THAT old.....
Aviation 12 (N412PD) is the oldest at 13 years and Aviation 14 (N414PD) is 10 years old.
N23FH is only 7 years old.
sweet! wonder if they'll sell me 414PD... why couldn't they buy some UH-60Ms?
it is mathematically impossible for either hummingbirds, or helicopters to fly. fortunately, neither are aware of this.
I don't see why they wouldn't. The original Aviation 14 was a Huey. That was a great bird.Originally Posted by cancidas
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<>I don't see why they wouldn't. The original Aviation 14 was a Huey. That was a great bird.
I have to respectfully disagree.
The two Hueys I remembered were Aviation 8 and 9. # 9 had pontoons then # 9 became a
hangar queen and its parts used for # 8. Before being retired they put the pontoons on # 8. # 8
worked for awhile alongside Aviation 12 then it too was retired when # 14 came in to service.
Maybe someone can confirm but I believe # 8 was donated to Aviation High School in Queens and used
for teaching purposes.
And yes they were great ships!!
I would love to see the pontoons on one of the 412s. :D
they're already installed, and can be inflated in a pinch! they're a bit hard to stow though, you have to be outside the helo to do so...
it is mathematically impossible for either hummingbirds, or helicopters to fly. fortunately, neither are aware of this.
No these were already inflated and attached to the ship. They looked very cool and i saw the PD landthey're already installed, and can be inflated in a pinch! they're a bit hard to stow though, you have to be outside the helo to do so...
in the water a number of times with them. At various times they had a Bell 47 and a JetRanger with
pontoons also. The ones on the Huey were black and pretty big.
Is there a civil/demilitarized version of the UH-60 out there? I know NYPD has started to buy Agustas, but there isn't really anything between the A119 and the AB139 (which is way too big). Down here in Washington, the US Park Police (which provides air cover to Presidential motorcades and supports large events on the Mall) operates a pair of 412s, the older of which is from 1990.
The S-70 Firehawk, the civilian version of the UH-60.
http://www.fire.lacounty.gov/AirWildlan ... AirOps.asp
as much as i'd love to see it, the NYPD really doesn't need to fly a UH-60. the reason LA County Fire flies them is they're much more capable in terms of payload and speed compared to a 412. the 412 can lift 4500lb externally but cruises only at ~120kts. the UH-60 cruises at 150kts and can carry 9,000lb slung underneath. the NYPD really has no need to fly a -60. =(
it is mathematically impossible for either hummingbirds, or helicopters to fly. fortunately, neither are aware of this.
And LA City just got 2 new AW139s when I was out there in March. Fire 3 and 5. From what I read I believe they want to transition
to all AW139s. Their other ships are 412s. The big birds are very useful out there fighting the wildfires with their water tank capacity.
the AW139 does have a bigger cabin than the B412, which is useful. i wonder how much they can carry slung. what is strange is that LA City Fire flies the 412 with the Simplex Manufacturing water tanks mounted to the fuselage. the tanks for the AW139 can carry 400 gallons of water. the tanks meant for the 412 only 360. not much difference there.
personally, i'd have stayed with the 412EP over a AW-139 any day.
it is mathematically impossible for either hummingbirds, or helicopters to fly. fortunately, neither are aware of this.
>[quote="cancidas"]the AW139 does have a bigger cabin than the B412, which is useful. i wonder how much they can carry slung. what is strange is that LA City Fire flies the 412 with the Simplex Manufacturing water tanks mounted to the fuselage. the tanks for the AW139 can carry 400 gallons of water. the tanks meant for the 412 only 360. not much difference there. <
Agusta/Westland gave a better deal than Bell? :?
probably....
it is mathematically impossible for either hummingbirds, or helicopters to fly. fortunately, neither are aware of this.
Bummer, I'd love to see someone do one up in Photoshop tho. And besides, I know this one guy who works on 'em from time to time. Just sayin'.
Don't they serve different roles?
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All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9
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