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    Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    Seem like a Colgan DHC-8 has crashed in Buffalo,
    http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/577959.html
    Seem like no fatalities on the ground,
    http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/possible_s ... nce_090212

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    Re: Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    I just saw this... wow, very eerie feeling. I talked to them when they departed EWR tonight

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    Re: Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    49 killed. All on board (44 passengers and 4 crew) and 1 person on the ground.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    Yes, seem like the most deadly DHC-8 crash, http://aviation-safety.net/database/dblist.php?Type=184

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    It was flight 3407.



    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.


    (AP Photo/David Duprey)
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    RIP to all of those onboard as well as on the ground. It hasnt been a good couple months lately.

    MSNBC just used Bill's pic on air with the airliners.net watermark....

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alessio
    Delivered on 4/16/08, not even 9 months old.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    New York State Police have confirmed 49 fatalities:
    44 passengers
    4 crew
    1 on ground



    Condolences to the families of the passengers, crew and Continental family.
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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    the Live ATC archive show's the PNF's last words were acknowleging the frequency change to tower from approach.

    I hate to speculate but Icing comes to mind...

    May the victims rest peacefully



    12 FEB 2009 de Havilland Canada DHC-8-402 Q400 (N200WQ) of Colgan Air, 10 km NE of Buffalo Niagara International Airport, NY (BUF)- 48(48 )

    This e-mail is brought to you by the Aviation Safety Network (ASN). ASN is an exclusive service of the Flight Safety Foundation. Please note this information is preliminary; new information will be added on the Aviation Safety Network at http://aviation-safety.net/ The 2008 year list of accidents always contains the most recent information on each accident.

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    ASN ACCIDENT DIGEST 2009-3

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    Date: 12 FEB 2009
    Time: ca 22:20
    Type: de Havilland Canada DHC-8-402 Q400
    Operator: Colgan Air
    Registration: N200WQ
    C/n / msn: 4200
    First flight: 2008
    Engines: 2
    Crew: Fatalities: 4 / Occupants: 4
    Passengers: Fatalities: 44 / Occupants: 44
    Total: Fatalities: 48 / Occupants: 48
    Airplane damage: Written off
    Location: 10 km NE of Buffalo Niagara International Airport, NY (BUF) (United States of America)
    Phase: Approach
    Nature: Domestic Scheduled Passenger
    Departure airport: Newark-Liberty International Airport, NJ (EWR)
    Destination airport: Buffalo Niagara International Airport, NY (BUF)
    Flightnumber: 3407
    Colgan Air Flight CJC3407 departed Newark-Liberty International Airport, NJ (EWR) at 21:20 on a domestic flight to Buffalo Airport, NY (BUF). The airplane, a DHC-8, is reported to have crashed in a residential area of Buffalo, NY while on approach to the airport. It struck a house in Clarence Center, starting a huge fire. Weather reported about the time of the accident (03:20 UTC): KBUF 130254Z 24015G22KT 3SM -SN BR FEW011 BKN021 OVC027 01/M01 A2979 RMK AO2 SLP097 P0001 60004 T00061006 51015= [Wind 240 degrees at 15 kts, gusting to 22kts; light snow, mist with a visibility of 3 miles; few clouds 1,100 ft.; broken clouds 2,100 ft.; overcast 2,700 ft. Temperature 0.6°C, Dewpoint -0.6°C] KBUF 130354Z 24011KT 3SM -SN BR SCT011 OVC021 01/M01 A2981 RMK AO2 SLP103 P0002 T00061006= [Wind 240 degrees at 11 kts; light snow, mist with a visibility of 3 miles; scattered clouds 1,100 ft.; overcast 2,100 ft.;Temperature 0.6°C, Dewpoint -0.6°C ACARS logs suggest that N200WQ was the aircraft involved in the accident.
    Sources:
    » The Buffalo News




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    AIRCRAFT PROFILE DE HAVILLAND CANADA DHC-8

    Last fatal accident involving a de Havilland Canada DHC-8: 09-JUN-1995 DHC-8-102 ZK-NEY Ansett New Zealand - 4 fatalties (4997 days ago)
    Total number of hull-losses: 6 (of which 6 were accidents)

    2nd worst accident involving a de Havilland Canada DHC-8

    Survival rate for all fatal de Havilland Canada DHC-8 accidents: on average 43.9 % of all occupants survived fatal accidents

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    Quote Originally Posted by DHG750R
    the Live ATC archive show's the PNF's last words were acknowleging the frequency change to tower from approach.

    I hate to speculate but Icing comes to mind...

    May the victims rest peacefully



    12 FEB 2009 de Havilland Canada DHC-8-402 Q400 (N200WQ) of Colgan Air, 10 km NE of Buffalo Niagara International Airport, NY (BUF)- 48(48 )

    This e-mail is brought to you by the Aviation Safety Network (ASN). ASN is an exclusive service of the Flight Safety Foundation. Please note this information is preliminary; new information will be added on the Aviation Safety Network at http://aviation-safety.net/ The 2008 year list of accidents always contains the most recent information on each accident.

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    ASN ACCIDENT DIGEST 2009-3

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    Date: 12 FEB 2009
    Time: ca 22:20
    Type: de Havilland Canada DHC-8-402 Q400
    Operator: Colgan Air
    Registration: N200WQ
    C/n / msn: 4200
    First flight: 2008
    Engines: 2
    Crew: Fatalities: 4 / Occupants: 4
    Passengers: Fatalities: 44 / Occupants: 44
    Total: Fatalities: 48 / Occupants: 48
    Airplane damage: Written off
    Location: 10 km NE of Buffalo Niagara International Airport, NY (BUF) (United States of America)
    Phase: Approach
    Nature: Domestic Scheduled Passenger
    Departure airport: Newark-Liberty International Airport, NJ (EWR)
    Destination airport: Buffalo Niagara International Airport, NY (BUF)
    Flightnumber: 3407
    Colgan Air Flight CJC3407 departed Newark-Liberty International Airport, NJ (EWR) at 21:20 on a domestic flight to Buffalo Airport, NY (BUF). The airplane, a DHC-8, is reported to have crashed in a residential area of Buffalo, NY while on approach to the airport. It struck a house in Clarence Center, starting a huge fire. Weather reported about the time of the accident (03:20 UTC): KBUF 130254Z 24015G22KT 3SM -SN BR FEW011 BKN021 OVC027 01/M01 A2979 RMK AO2 SLP097 P0001 60004 T00061006 51015= [Wind 240 degrees at 15 kts, gusting to 22kts; light snow, mist with a visibility of 3 miles; few clouds 1,100 ft.; broken clouds 2,100 ft.; overcast 2,700 ft. Temperature 0.6°C, Dewpoint -0.6°C] KBUF 130354Z 24011KT 3SM -SN BR SCT011 OVC021 01/M01 A2981 RMK AO2 SLP103 P0002 T00061006= [Wind 240 degrees at 11 kts; light snow, mist with a visibility of 3 miles; scattered clouds 1,100 ft.; overcast 2,100 ft.;Temperature 0.6°C, Dewpoint -0.6°C ACARS logs suggest that N200WQ was the aircraft involved in the accident.
    Sources:
    » The Buffalo News




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    AIRCRAFT PROFILE DE HAVILLAND CANADA DHC-8

    Last fatal accident involving a de Havilland Canada DHC-8: 09-JUN-1995 DHC-8-102 ZK-NEY Ansett New Zealand - 4 fatalties (4997 days ago)
    Total number of hull-losses: 6 (of which 6 were accidents)

    2nd worst accident involving a de Havilland Canada DHC-8

    Survival rate for all fatal de Havilland Canada DHC-8 accidents: on average 43.9 % of all occupants survived fatal accidents
    My guess would be combination of landinggear problem and icing, getting below stallspeed and
    then stalled.

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    I've uploaded the relevant Buffalo Approach/Buffalo Tower clip to YouTube. 3407 is heard on approach and gets handed off to the tower, but at one point she just stops responding, doesn't report any problems. Not completely real time...I cut out some irrelevant content to meet YouTube's 10 min limit.

    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Continental/Colgan DHC-8 crash, Newark-Buffalo.

    What a really sad event after the total high of US1549 - prayers and condolences to the families of the victims as well as all those at Colgan and CO - Bill - you look after yourself too!!!
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