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    Biz Jet from ACY Down in Minnesota, 7 Dead

    7 Killed In Minnesota Plane Crash
    Crash Happened At End Of Runway

    POSTED: 11:44 am EDT July 31, 2008
    UPDATED: 12:16 pm EDT July 31, 2008

    At least seven people have been killed in a small plane crash in Owatonna, Minn.

    Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said the plane crashed at or near the city's airport Thursday morning. Heavy weather was moving through the area at the time.

    Cory said authorities believe the plane was en route from Atlantic City, N.J., but she cautioned that the information was preliminary. [Full Article]
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. óCaptain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Lear from ACY Down in Minnesota, 7 Dead

    Not a Learjet...a Hawker 800...if you follow Flight Aware and the news reports it was ECJ81...they had a Hawker 800 going from ACY-OWA this morning, due around that time. But until someone officially confirms this surmise, do not take it as gospel.

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    Re: Lear from ACY Down in Minnesota, 7 Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by lijk604
    Not a Learjet...a Hawker 800...if you follow Flight Aware and the news reports it was ECJ81...they had a Hawker 800 going from ACY-OWA this morning, due around that time. But until someone officially confirms this surmise, do not take it as gospel.
    The tail numbers is presumably N818MV.

    John P.

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    Re: Biz Jet from ACY Down in Minnesota, 7 Dead

    N818MV was confirmed via the FAA Preliminary report.
    It's a shame what happened, my condolences go out to those on board, and also to all those at East Coast Jets who have to deal with the consequences. They are good people there, it's was a sad day yesterday. What wont help investigators is the fact this was an uncontrolled field, so there are no tower tapes, and probably no surveillance (sp?) cameras to assist the investigators.

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    Re: Biz Jet from ACY Down in Minnesota, 7 Dead

    i only overheard this on CNN yesterday morning while getting groceries. i was detached from the outside world where i was staying the past few days. from what i heard i'm assuming the a/c went down on account of the "severe wx" that was reported in the area, and it wouldn't surprise me to read eventually it was microburst-induced windsheer. i just now am back at my computer so i'm just now looking for the NTSB prelim report.
    it is mathematically impossible for either hummingbirds, or helicopters to fly. fortunately, neither are aware of this.

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    Re: Biz Jet from ACY Down in Minnesota, 7 Dead

    At 1455z which was about right about the incident time, here was the ASOS report
    KOWA 311515Z AUTO 22012KT 10SM VCTSRA SCT021 BKN037 BKN050 18/17 A2986 RMK AO2 P0002 LTG DSNT E THRU SW
    KOWA 311455Z AUTO 17006KT 10SM RA SCT018 SCT029 BKN037 19/17 A2983 RMK AO2 P0009 LTG DSNT E THRU S
    KOWA 311435Z AUTO 18003KT 10SM -VCTSRA SCT038 SCT049 BKN100 18/16 A2985 RMK AO2 P0005 LTG DSNT ALQDS

    ...they were shooting the ILS 30 to OWA. So there was a slight tailwind. An hour before though winds were reported 220 @ 40kts Gusts to 52kts. The severe storm passed that airport about 45 mins before they arrived.

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    Re: Biz Jet from ACY Down in Minnesota, 7 Dead

    Just an update on this. The jet originated out of ABE, and today's (Monday) Allentown Morning Call had an article updating the story. As I said, it departed out of ABE, with a stop in Atlantic City to pick up passengers. AN NTSB member told reporters that the aircraft touched down briefly on the runway, then apparently added power and attempted to go around. The right wing struck an "8-foot-high antenna" (from the description, it sounds like the localizer antenna) approximately 1,000 feet past the end of the runway before crashing.

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    Re: Biz Jet from ACY Down in Minnesota, 7 Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by moose135
    Just an update on this. The jet originated out of ABE, and today's (Monday) Allentown Morning Call had an article updating the story. As I said, it departed out of ABE, with a stop in Atlantic City to pick up passengers. AN NTSB member told reporters that the aircraft touched down briefly on the runway, then apparently added power and attempted to go around. The right wing struck an "8-foot-high antenna" (from the description, it sounds like the localizer antenna) approximately 1,000 feet past the end of the runway before crashing.
    This would make sense, East Coast Jets is based in ABE. As for hitting the antennae, the day it happened, I tuned into the local tv-news station online (KARE i believe it was) and they had a chopper overflying recording the area. The far left hand side of the localizer antennae was broken off, and clearly seen in their coverage.

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