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    Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Goodness, the Democrats had better get serious on a realistic energy bill, now, in an election year, this is the best that Obama can come up, sheesh!

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    OBAMA’S ANSWER TO DRILLING DEBATE: INFLATE YOUR TIRES
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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Mike lets get real...this was taken to far and to be blunt..proper inflation of tires can increase your milage by 2 mpgs..so its not a half bad idea. Its also a safety factor...its not Obama's answer but its good common sense and it does save gas.

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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Tommy, of course it is, but the way he said it was quite frankly.... Stupid.... Plus his facts are a bit off...

    My favorite:

    "We could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could save just as much."

    haha suuure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwafan20
    Tommy, of course it is, but the way he said it was quite frankly.... Stupid.... Plus his facts are a bit off...

    My favorite:

    "We could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could save just as much."

    haha suuure.
    Matt he's right...proper running engines burn far less gas and if everybody did do it we'd save oil. However everyone isn't going to do it. But I love the fact that we are putting a man down because he's basically saying "hey take some personal responsibility for your own actions." When I drive to work and I see people still doing 80 plus, IMO they have no right to complain about how high the price of gas is. People in this country need to start taking responsibility for their actions! Obama's said it a few times and each time he does, he gets shot down...Man what an extreme idea...personal responsibility...wow

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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76

    Matt he's right...proper running engines burn far less gas and if everybody did do it we'd save oil. However everyone isn't going to do it. But I love the fact that we are putting a man down because he's basically saying "hey take some personal responsibility for your own actions." When I drive to work and I see people still doing 80 plus, IMO they have no right to complain about how high the price of gas is. People in this country need to start taking responsibility for their actions! Obama's said it a few times and each time he does, he gets shot down...Man what an extreme idea...personal responsibility...wow
    Tommy

    This is what Obama said
    "We could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling[/b] if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could save just as much."


    Now of course, what Obama said would be unable to quantify, but, if people were not servicing their cars, companies like Jiffy Lube would not exist

    What Obama should have said was that if you service your own car, then, you can save yourself some money.

    Making sure your car is serviced, would not cancel out the requirement for more drilling....
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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Doing what you can do to maximize your fuel usage efficiency might save you a few dollars, but it's not a solution to the oil crisis. Driving efficiently or driving less will not make the gas prices go down, as is costs what it does because the Mideast and oil companies are taking our country hostage....bottom line.

    It's like telling a girl that it's her fault for getting raped and it would happen less if she made herself look less attractive. The basic economics of supply and demand just do not apply to gas. I can cut my fuel usage in half, but I still don't deserve to pay $4+ a gallon when I DO fill up.

    Our energy crisis will not go away just with "energy saving tips". If that's his solution, he's ignoring the problem.
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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Mike
    Goodness, the Democrats had better get serious on a realistic energy bill, now, in an election year, this is the best that Obama can come up, sheesh!
    I love the double standard here. For much of the first 6 years of Bush's presidency, the Republicans controlled the House and Senate, but they couldn't even come up with a "plan" like this, but suddenly, the Democrats are the bad guys because they aren't ready to start drilling in everybody's back yard. The Republicans didn't "get serious" when they were in power. If all this drilling is such a great idea, why didn't they pass legislation allowing it four or five years ago?

    And speaking of "Middle Eastern" countries that are holding us hostage over oil...anybody care to guess the top source of oil and other petroleum products for the US? Canada...that's right, the US imported nearly 50% more petroleum products from Canada than Saudi Arabia in May 2008. In fact, in 2006, Saudi Arabia was the only third largest source of imported oil, behind both Canada and Mexico. About half of our oil imports come from the Western Hemisphere. (Source:Dept of Energy, Energy Information Agency)

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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Quote Originally Posted by moose135
    I love the double standard here. For much of the first 6 years of Bush's presidency, the Republicans controlled the House and Senate, but they couldn't even come up with a "plan" like this, but suddenly, the Democrats are the bad guys because they aren't ready to start drilling in everybody's back yard. The Republicans didn't "get serious" when they were in power. If all this drilling is such a great idea, why didn't they pass legislation allowing it four or five years ago?

    And speaking of "Middle Eastern" countries that are holding us hostage over oil...anybody care to guess the top source of oil and other petroleum products for the US? Canada...that's right, the US imported nearly 50% more petroleum products from Canada than Saudi Arabia in May 2008. In fact, in 2006, Saudi Arabia was the only third largest source of imported oil, behind both Canada and Mexico. About half of our oil imports come from the Western Hemisphere. (Source:Dept of Energy, Energy Information Agency)
    Moose

    A ban on drilling is a Democrat issue, whether the Democrats are in the minority or majority.

    Back in 2005, an energy policy was put in place that included tax reductions for alternative energy, that was why they changed the start of daylight savings

    Back to the present problem, we used to be a country that supplied more than 70% of our oil, now that number is down to 40%, we are sitting on oil. Blocking drilling & hoping for alternative is not an energy policy.

    In the original bill, the Republicans wanted to lift the drilling ban in ANWR, the Democrats blocked that part of the bill. Don't worry, the Republicans were no angels, they blocked raising the raising the fuel economy standards for cars......
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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Doing what you can do to maximize your fuel usage efficiency might save you a few dollars, but it's not a solution to the oil crisis. Driving efficiently or driving less will not make the gas prices go down, as is costs what it does because the Mideast and oil companies are taking our country hostage....bottom line.
    Phil this is Economics 101... One of the major reasons why the price of oil is going down is because supplies are up and demand is down and keeps falling. Simply lesson in supply and demand, supply right now is high and demand is dropping. As Moose said we get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico, and will continue to get most of our oil from them even after we break out ties to the MidEast. Why aren't we hearing that we need to break out ties to Canada?

    Obama is talking about people taking responsibility for their own actions. This problem cannot be solved by simply drilling for more oil. Everyone needs to do their part to lower their consumption of oil because it will make a difference. Imagine if 10% of the population changed their habits what a difference it would make.

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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Quote Originally Posted by nwafan20
    "We could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires..."
    CLEARLY OBAMA IS IN BED WITH THE AIR COMPANIES!
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Pardon my community college education, but the only reason demand is low is because the price was set high to begin with. It's not that the price went up because demand had fallen. Prices increased because of political reasons that are outside the typical supply and demand laws, and demand fell due to that.
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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D.
    Pardon my community college education, but the only reason demand is low is because the price was set high to begin with. It's not that the price went up because demand had fallen. Prices increased because of political reasons that are outside the typical supply and demand laws, and demand fell due to that.
    Political reasons? What political reasons are those?

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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    War. Threat of more war. OPEC nations wanting to give a big "shove it" to Western nations.

    Perhaps debatable, I know, but that's what I think.
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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Also, don't forget those investors, like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. They're putting obscene amounts of money into oil futures, more or less pushing up the price of oil. Trading paper oil now accounts for over 70% of activity on NYMEX and ICE. Five years ago, it was less than 30%. These guys see oil and commodities in general as a new currency and investment tool.

    Oil companies have their share of the blame too...

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    Re: Obama's answer to drilling at home; Inflate your tires

    Quote Originally Posted by bonanzabucks
    These guys see oil and commodities in general as a new currency and investment tool.
    And now that European economies are starting to follow ours down the crapper, the Euro is beginning to fall against the dollar, making oil less attractive to foreign investors, which also (among a billion other factors) contributes to the fall in price.
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